EagleBurnn
Banned
The detonator is a good weapon and of all things there are to complain about Halo 4, that's not one. The Grenade Launcher was better, have both for Halo 5.
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Huh, you learn something every day. I'm with OddOne though, I enjoy the Detonator. I also love the Launcher. I'm conflicted on the best solution. It was awesome to hit someone square in the face with a grenade from the Launcher though. That weapon felt good.
Zeouterlimits
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Yeah, I don't (didn't?) mind the detonator, but the GL was much more satisfying.
Grenade launcher because of the range and control you had.
People didn't know about the proximity thing?
Twilight Gap
Member
Decided that I'm just going to sport a male Mark VI spartan and skip armor customization entirely.
The Henery
Member
Grenade Launcher is fine wine to sticky det's can of special brew.
The GL just might be the finest weapon added to the sandbox since CE's initial set.
The GL just might be the finest weapon added to the sandbox since CE's initial set.
Heathen. The grenade launcher was a an amazingly fun weapon to use. Had some nuance to it. Felt great. The sticky det is meh. Poor replacement imo.
Railgun however is an awesome addition.
YourExWife
Member
This was my reaction too, except work internet not quick enough. Thank you for taking over in my absence, guys!
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Railgun is great. I played campaign first and I totally shit the bed with the railgun my first time using it in mp. I'm not a fan of weapons behaving differently between campaign and multiplayer.
BlueScrote
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Let's all agree that GL, Sticky Det, Railgun are all better additions than any of the promethean weapons in MP.
Suppressor doesn't add anything to the sandbox.
LR is boring (we don't need 4 rifles).
Incineration Cannon is just a beefed up RL
BiRi? Only fun in Binary Slayer.
Boltshot-- The boltshot is actually a good idea in practice, but letting people spawn with them is terrible.
Suppressor doesn't add anything to the sandbox.
LR is boring (we don't need 4 rifles).
Incineration Cannon is just a beefed up RL
BiRi? Only fun in Binary Slayer.
Boltshot-- The boltshot is actually a good idea in practice, but letting people spawn with them is terrible.
The blast radius is easily twice as big, it doesn't bounce making it easier to place, there's only one firing mode as opposed to the GL's two and the motion sensor on it clearly shows you if someone is on or near the grenade making it much easier to know when to detonate it.
The difference between the Grenade Launcher and the Sticky Detonator is all that is wrong with Halo 4.
squidhands
Member
Yep. The only weapon that 343 has introduced so far that's worthy of praise is the Railgun, and just about everything else is creamy orange dogshit or not worth mentioning.
I feel that 343 missed a golden opportunity to make the pistol far more interesting and viable by adding the sticky det feature as a secondary fire (which is what several people speculated from the original teaser trailer), which could only be called down by their highly-touted Personal Ordnance System (I'll refrain from using the obvious acronym). Alas
Here's a compromise. Bring back the Grenade Launcher for the UNSC because it's awesome. Make the Rail Gun a Covenant themed weapon that fires a giant cluster of Needles that detonate on impact. Multiple detonations can be achieved by over-charging the weapon, but it consumes more ammo that way and can fire prematurely. The sticky detonator gets brought back as a Forerunner weapon. Fire a thing that looks like a pulse grenade that sticks to walls.
Alternatively, the sticky detonator could be brought back as a Spike grenade launcher that has a similar theme to the Brute Shot and the Railgun could be a hardlight launcher or somethin'.
Alternatively, the sticky detonator could be brought back as a Spike grenade launcher that has a similar theme to the Brute Shot and the Railgun could be a hardlight launcher or somethin'.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Wahrer?
Twilight Gap
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So I'm flying the Banshee on Daybreak and I do a barrel roll to dodge an EMP.
Instead, I end up splattering and betraying 2 teammates who were jumping in the air. They then proceed to try and kill my Banshee for the rest of the match, lol
Instead, I end up splattering and betraying 2 teammates who were jumping in the air. They then proceed to try and kill my Banshee for the rest of the match, lol
YourExWife
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Garrett 2U
Member
The Promethean weapons had to be relatable to current weapons or else it would have required a bit of learning to play Halo 4 and sales would have decreased by the thousands!
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Apparently the Launcher also has a proximity detector. Also the Detonator doesn't have a "quick fire/kill" mode like the launcher, you can't just blast it at someone's face and get an easy kill, it takes time to put in place.
I'd say they are both easy.
GL requires timing and accuracy. SD requires a lot less of both thanks to the sticky property and explosive radius.
Zoso Achilles
Member
The best part about a 4 shot BR (if it happens) is that we can get 3 kills per clip again.
Reduce DMR aim assist please.
Reduce all aim assist please.
Reduce DMR aim assist please.
Reduce all aim assist please.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I seriously can't wait for Google Fiber! My god. Gonna be pulling host all day everyday in Halo. Gonna be grand.
YourExWife
Member
I wouldn't count that chicken so soon. Speed has little to do with host, especially if you use the same xbox as before Google.
Darn it.
I hope Durango doesn't cap Internet Speeds like The Xbox 360 does.
Also, don't forget that Halo uses the Host Record (or whatever it's called) so your past internet stuff is remembered, even if you have a different ISP or whatever. This is all stored on the box itself.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Twilight Gap
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Latvian Hitman
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
It's not complicated, just find a loadout set that works for you and play. I've been enjoying the BR lately. Playing in a big group of people you (kind of) know is much more fun too.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Depends on how good you are at Halo. Throwdown's great if you're god tier. All I ever do is get squashed in there...
Me and mine tend to stick to CTF, Doubles, and any other playlist that lets us vote down Infinity gametypes.
Twilight Gap
Member
Don't play Infinity.
Yea playing with a good group makes it more enjoyable too. I'm also trying out the BR in MP now and I like it a lot. Feels more comfortable than the DMR.
Actually it's ROF * (STK-1). Think about it.
The GL >>> SD.
GL cons: are there any?
GL pros: can shoot around corners, two firing modes, smaller blast radius
SD cons: gigantic radius, can't kill around corners effectively like GL, not as skillful
SD pros: lol
Onikaan
Member
What is this new devilry?
7600 Kills to 4900 Deaths. No idea what that qualifies as these days. Average? Throwdown isn't something I like too much because of the lack of radar. CTF is great if you have a good team...
Playing with friends increases the enjoyability of this game 10 fold. They just ain't around all the time and I suffer when I get stuck halfway through a match with team mates walking backwards and looking at the sky.
I try not to. I can't settle into any playlist to be honest.
Orochinagis
Member
The grenade launcher, I had lots of fun using it in Sword base super effective in close quarters, too bad not all the maps incluyed that wonderful weapon its great to take out campers safely, its reticule its a little confusing at first but when you get used you can even nuke those pesky snipers, its secondary mode I think it was made to be the UNSC plasma pistol because it can be used for draining shields and disable in a more efficient way than the Plasma pistol at long range. too bad you can only kill two enemies at much with a single shoot. Dont forget suicide mode, shoot and instant change your weapon.
Sticky Detonator is way more easy to use than the Grenade Launcher, its ridiculous blast ratio is enough to kill a medium group of enemies sometimes even when they behind a wall, more visible proximity radar,fast to shot and detonate almost instantly so theres is no penalty of using it even you can store the sticky for later detonation but is weak against vehicles unless you are fast enough to stick it to the driver.
squidhands
Member
Are you in Austin? I'll be super stoked when Google Fiber gets here, so my wife can easily watch Netflix in the living room while I yell at a videogame in the gameroom.
You might as well ask if you should start kicking puppies for fun. Sure, you could probably force yourself to enjoy it (you sick, twisted fuck), but that doesn't make it right.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Weve been running HaloGaf BTB groups for the last week or so, feel free to join up when we play
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Speaking of said HaloGaf BTB donging groups, I'll be on tonight around 730/8CST again.
Seems that "true skill" finally caught up to us in the end last night. You know, after that 1000-50 win.
Seems that "true skill" finally caught up to us in the end last night. You know, after that 1000-50 win.
EagleBurnn
Banned
I'm down. You guys need someone to die a lot to know where the enemy is anyway.
Onikaan
Member
The problem I have is that I won't embrace this new fangled way to play Halo and when I come up against the puppy kickers, I get slapped.
Do you guys worry about your K/D ratio? Is it something you're conscious of whenever you play?
Latvian Hitman
Member
So, you're about 1.5 K/D. That's safely above average (I'm a lowly 1.35-ish and have been since Reach). Throwdown would probably still be painful for you unless you were running with a good team. Going in solo would not be fun, I wouldn't think.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
So, win.
Also, Ex, did you get the audio from the guy last night who accused us all of being in BTB "to pad our K/D?" That was one of the funniest moments I've had on Halo 4.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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That guy was awesome
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