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Halo |OT16| Oh Bungie, Where Art Thou?

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xxjuicesxx

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Tashi said:
I would probably rather the conversation in this thread to be overrun with Juices' squad of Reach players talking about how much they're enjoying Reach (or any other Halo games) rather than just shit talking Halo 4 when they haven't played it in months.
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To be fair I have played ~200 games of Halo 4 and I do watch it regularly, almost daily. I read of the changes and analyze it critically. You dont always have to play massive amounts of the game for your criticism to be valid. Similar to how we saw dumb shit before the game was released and called it out, and it actually ended up being pretty dumb, and proved our points.

But yea, I'm trying to stay positive I'm getting people going in the community playing Halo again, last night we actually had a decent outcome of peoples and I've had a ton of fun with Halo these past few weeks.

By the way I have to say this for the five hundredth thousandth time, this thread isnt about how we hate Halo 4 its about how we want Halo to be. Because we all love Halo. Adding: All criticism whether displayed positively or negatively should be viewed by devs and fans as constructive criticism. Please avoid emotional attachment if possible.
 
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Twilight Gap

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BigShow36 said:
If people want an "active community," there needs to be a central interest that they all discuss. "Playing Halo" is no longer the primary interest here, the primary interest is "why do I not like playing a game that I used to love playing." That's where the interest lies, and that's why so many of the posts deal with that.

Community threads can't be willed into existence; something brings people together. That used to be playing Halo and all the intricacies of Halo and how to get better at Halo; it's not anymore. No matter how hard people try to force a "we love Halo" community here, it simply won't happen because there isn't enough interest to sustain it.

You can try and separate forums, but one will die (hint: it's the "we love Halo" forum) and everyone will merely come back here, to the more active one.

You come here and complain about the rampant Halo negativity as if it's the communities fault for not liking Halo anymore. It's not. The community is merely reflecting the state of Halo, as it has always done. If you want this community to return to the fun-loving, "we love Halo" of days past, then fix Halo.
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
xxjuicesxx said:
But yea, I'm trying to stay positive I'm getting people going in the community playing Halo again, last night we actually had a decent outcome of peoples and I've had a ton of fun with Halo these past few weeks.

By the way I have to say this for the five hundredth thousandth time, this thread isnt about how we hate Halo 4 its about how we want Halo to be. Because we all love Halo.
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I am pinning this to my bedroom door.
 
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TheOddOne

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Gui_PT said:
TheOddOne you should be banned for that so called "OT"
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You should be banned for being French. You cheese eating surrender monkey!

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User 73706

Banned
Gui_PT said:
TheOddOne you should be banned for that so called "OT"
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Halo |OT17| Read the scandalous OP that got OddOne banned! Quantum neutrino jizz remnants of EazyB's helmet found in NeoGAF source code! Is kylej's music equipment really the foundation for a weather machine?!
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
xxjuicesxx said:
To be fair I have played ~200 games of Halo 4 and I do watch it regularly, almost daily. I read of the changes and analyze it critically. You dont always have to play massive amounts of the game for your criticism to be valid. Similar to how we saw dumb shit before the game was released and called it out, and it actually ended up being pretty dumb, and proved our points.

But yea, I'm trying to stay positive I'm getting people going in the community playing Halo again, last night we actually had a decent outcome of peoples and I've had a ton of fun with Halo these past few weeks.

By the way this thread isnt about how we hate Halo 4 its about how we want Halo to be. Because we all love Halo.
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I have no problem with valid criticism. That offers interesting discussion. It's the shit talking that's annoying.
 
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DeadNames

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the whole hgs superiority complex is also kind of a problem.

also sometimes people are too harsh, even if it's not related to video games.
 
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Speedy Blue Dude

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Tashi said:
I have no problem with valid criticism. That offers interesting discussion. It's the shit talking that's annoying.
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What's consider **** talk though? Is saying "Halo 4 a bad game" any less valid because you didn't explain what's wrong with it each time you say it? People have explained time and time again why Halo 4 is a bad game, why Halo is dead, etc, we're at the stage where discussing the games fault would just be repeating ourselves for the thousandths time.

I draw the line at insulting 343 and it's employees at a personal level though, or any Halo fan at a personal level, that's not cool.
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Tashi said:
I wouldn't be able to handle that thread if I posted there. I would just go so mad at people. It would seriously ruin my day lol.
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It has some great bans. And there is more racism in it than this thread. Although the Hamish Beamish and Groundskeeper Willie stuff is super offensive to my people.
 
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User 73706

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Speedy Blue Dude said:
What's consider **** talk though? Is saying "Halo 4 a bad game" any less valid because you didn't explain what's wrong with it each time you say it? People have explained time and time again why Halo 4 is a bad game, why Halo is dead, etc, we're at the stage where discussing the games fault would just be repeating ourselves for the thousandths time.

I draw the line at insulting 343 and it's employees at a personal level though, or any Halo fan at a personal level, that's not cool.
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You mean shit talk, right?

Or perhaps Faye Reagan porn nipples XXX talk?
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
This thread has had some great bans too though Frank. That Starwolf one was hilarious.

Speedy Blue Dude said:
What's consider **** talk though? Is saying "Halo 4 a bad game" any less valid because you didn't explain what's wrong with it each time you say it? People have explained time and time again why Halo 4 is a bad game, why Halo is dead, etc, we're at the stage where discussing the games fault would just be repeating ourselves for the thousandths time.

I draw the line at insulting 343 and it's employees at a personal level though, or any Halo fan at a personal level, that's not cool.
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You serious? You don't see the problem with posts that are just, "Halo 4 sucks" or "Halo 4 is terrible"? I'm not saying the opinion is invalid, I can totally see why people hate Halo 4 and don't play it but I mean come on, shit's getting old. It doesn't add anything to the thread.

Also, did you just censor yourself instead of saying shit? lol
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Deadly Cyclone said:
Thursday night Halo 4 BTB night. Be there one and all.
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I'm in. And tonight if it's happening. Do we need to be good or sober?

Actually I would be OK with a meet-up even for haters. Maybe I can win hearts and minds by resting their teabags on my welcoming chin.
 
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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Gui_PT said:
I wish to join this
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Send me a FR!

monsterfracas said:
Why not tonight? I'm still down though.
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Oh by all means go for it. I have to capture some Star Trek (and finish my review) as well as do a Terraria video though. I might be able to join without a mic later on. Thursday I know I'm free.

Stinkles said:
I'm in. Do we need to be good or sober?

Actually I would be OK with a meet-up even for haters. Maybe I can win hearts and minds by resting their teabags on my welcoming chin.
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I'll be drinking, so whatever that means. (Last time I merely posted <Sai on here).

I'm calling 7:30 CST for when I'll be on, maybe sooner.
 
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Fracas

#fuckonami
Stinkles said:
I'm in. And tonight if it's happening. Do we need to be good or sober?

Actually I would be OK with a meet-up even for haters. Maybe I can win hearts and minds by resting their teabags on my welcoming chin.
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Every time I shot at you last time we played I was like "this is for loadouts and personal ordnance" lol
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
I'm down for BTB night as long as it's not BTB playlist. I just can't do Infinity anymore when there are far superior options out there. I'm down to make custom gametypes for GAF and hunt some good BTB Forge maps if necessary (can't promise good framerate lol)
 
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Speedy Blue Dude

Banned
Tashi said:
You serious? You don't see the problem with posts that are just, "Halo 4 sucks" or "Halo 4 is terrible"? I'm not saying the opinion is invalid, I can totally see why people hate Halo 4 and don't play it but I mean come on, shit's getting old. It doesn't add anything to the thread.

Also, did you just censor yourself instead of saying shit? lol
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I don't see a problem with it, it's just people expressing how they feel about the game. Don't take me wrong, the game has gotten better and I'm extremely grateful that 343 has given us Team Throwdown, and Forge Island, and CSR (While not in game... it is fun, and I'm enjoying it, retained my interest in the game. I would really prefer it being in game though). I appreciate the fact that the game is slowly getting better, and 343 is finally tweaking the sandbox, I'm grateful for all of that, but it's taken so long, I can see why people are upset and frustrated.

Like I said, writing a full paragraph on why Halo 4 is bad because x or x, is pretty pointless now. People have said multiple times now why they dislike the game and consider it bad, it's just repeating yourself. Saying "Halo is dead/Halo 4 is bad" is repeating yourself as well, but it takes less effort that fully explaining yourself, and it gets the same message across (in a less mature way)
 
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RebornYeti

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I will actually have time tonight, so I would love to join in on some BTB (or even better: Customs) action.

GT: RebornYeti for those who like to add me.
 
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Deadly Cyclone

Pride of Iowa State
Tashi said:
I'm down for BTB night as long as it's not BTB playlist. I just can't do Infinity anymore when there are far superior options out there. I'm down to make custom gametypes for GAF and hunt some good BTB Forge maps if necessary (can't promise good framerate lol)
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Something in me just enjoys being in matchmaking BTB and running through people though. :p

We can do some customs or something too though. Let's see how many people we get Thursday.

Send me friend requests if you have not people.
 
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Blueblur1

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BigShow36 said:
If people want an "active community," there needs to be a central interest that they all discuss. "Playing Halo" is no longer the primary interest here, the primary interest is "why do I not like playing a game that I used to love playing." That's where the interest lies, and that's why so many of the posts deal with that.

Community threads can't be willed into existence; something brings people together. That used to be playing Halo and all the intricacies of Halo and how to get better at Halo; it's not anymore. No matter how hard people try to force a "we love Halo" community here, it simply won't happen because there isn't enough interest to sustain it.

You can try and separate forums, but one will die (hint: it's the "we love Halo" forum) and everyone will merely come back here, to the more active one.

You come here and complain about the rampant Halo negativity as if it's the communities fault for not liking Halo anymore. It's not. The community is merely reflecting the state of Halo, as it has always done. If you want this community to return to the fun-loving, "we love Halo" of days past, then fix Halo.
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A+
 
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Trasher

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Well of course people are going to disagree and argue. That's the nature of this forum. And yeah, people are going to shit talk a game if they aren't happy with it. If you aren't used to that by now, then you clearly haven't been on GAF for very long. You just need to let the shit slide off of you, as I'm sure everyone at Bungie and 343 know all too well.

Right now all we can do is wait and hope that 343 has taken note of how poorly their game has done with a significant portion of Halo's fanbase.

Side note:

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Glad I could brighten his day! Best thing is that I never insulted him, and then he calls me an asshole on Twitter. Some people's lives are so sad. :(
 
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Poker Face

Member
Deadly Cyclone said:
Something in me just enjoys being in matchmaking BTB and running through people though. :p

We can do some customs or something too though. Let's see how many people we get Thursday.

Send me friend requests if you have not people.
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Yea I'll definitely do thursday, can't do tonight though. Just sent a friend request.
 
Onikaan

Onikaan

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Stinkles said:
It has some great bans. And there is more racism in it than this thread. Although the Hamish Beamish and Groundskeeper Willie stuff is super offensive to my people.
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Connery refuses to live here, and even Frankie left. Insulted daily, by American television.

What have we got now?

Who will unite us.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Speedy Blue Dude said:
I don't see a problem with it, it's just people expressing how they feel about the game. Don't take me wrong, the game has gotten better and I'm extremely grateful that 343 has given us Team Throwdown, and Forge Island, and CSR (While not in game... it is fun, and I'm enjoying it, retained my interest in the game. I would really prefer it being in game though). I appreciate the fact that the game is slowly getting better, and 343 is finally tweaking the sandbox, I'm grateful for all of that, but it's taken so long, I can see why people are upset and frustrated.

Like I said, writing a full paragraph on why Halo 4 is bad because x or x, is pretty pointless now. People have said multiple times now why they dislike the game and consider it bad, it's just repeating yourself. Saying "Halo is dead/Halo 4 is bad" is repeating yourself as well, but it takes less effort that fully explaining yourself, and it gets the same message across (in a less mature way)
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=390708

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NeoGAF is a place to hold civil discussions about videogames, the videogame industry, and all videogame-related material. The Off-Topic forum is also available for general discussion, but follows the same principals, requirements (sans the requirement of the discussions to be related to videogames), and terms for acceptable material. Heated debates on the forums are welcome, as long as they abide by the established guidelines.
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I'm not going to pretend I don't post single sentence bullshit sometimes but I'm also not promoting it like you are. NeoGAF is known for being not a shit hole and actually having smart discussion about games and the industry. This thread is a shit hole at times.

Also, pointless? What do you think the purpose of this thread is? To provide suggestions for Halo 4 and how it can be fixed? It's like you're saying, "why discuss things about the game when 343 isn't going to listen anyway" The point is to have a discussion about the game and not act like this thread is only a suggestion box.
 
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