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Prinz Eugn

Member
Wahrer said:
:O

Wait a second - stupid question, but I live under a rock. I didn't know you did halo art stuff. What is it exactly you do? I always thought you worked with MLG or something.
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MLG wat. My Eagle had a thing to stand on in Halo 3!

I don't do anything Halo-related in real-life except play Halo and post in forums, with very occasional art stuff as I feel like it. Here's my deviantart. No furries, promise.

In my RL career, my title used to be Assistant Cartographer so I could make awkward jokes about being a SILENT Cartographer but now I'm a Geospatial Analyst 2 after levellng up a couple times.

I heard about GAF through YourExWife, who I know in real life.
 
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User 73706

Banned
Prinz Eugn said:
MLG wat. My Eagle had a thing to stand on in Halo 3!

I don't do anything Halo-related in real-life except play Halo and post in forums, with very occasional art stuff as I feel like it. Here's my deviantart. No furries, promise.

In my RL career, my title used to be Assistant Cartographer so I could make awkward jokes about being a SILENT Cartographer but now I'm a Geospatial Analyst 2 after levellng up a couple times.

I heard about GAF through YourExWife, who I know in real life.
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Did you two find out about each other in NM (currently), or back when you lived in Valparaiso? If the latter, small world, holy hell.
 
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aHebrewMenagerie

Member
Josh Menke (working on Halo 5) just posted this on twitter.

Josh Menke said:
My current philosophy on ranking systems is to design them for the people who do care about ranking systems, and those people like details.

My philosophy on matchmaking is to get players in the best games ASAP, with matchmaking trumping ranking, since it affects the most people.

The compromise happens in making sure you make the best matches, but still give meaningful ranking. We'll see how it goes!

Also, keep in mind, my personal philosphy, etc., isn't the only thing that goes into what I'm working on, and it subject to change.

How many of you played Starcraft 2? Of those, how many worried about demotions back when you could sitll be demoted mid-season?
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That's a pretty good philosophy, IMO.

EDIT: Hmmm.... I guess his follow up tweets make sense.

kittens said:
A glimmer of hope. Then I remember the perk that let's you survive exploding vehicles.
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I am cry evrytim.
 
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Madness

Member
Didn't Josh work on matchmaking and ranking systems at Blizzard for games like Starcraft II? Having him is only a positive in my book.
 
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The Henery

Member
PentinantTangent said:
Josh Menke (working on Halo 5) just posted this on twitter.



That's a pretty good philosophy, IMO.
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Yeeeah but that's also reminiscent of Bungie stating of The Arena 'lets give the hardcore somewhere to live' as if only paint stripping 3 shot purists want a system that reflects performance and not just participation. A ranking system, no matter how well designed and intentioned, only really works when 1) there's enough people using it and 2) they are externally motivated enough to care about it. What's that? You made top 25% Gold in the Arena? Don't care because I can't see it on your global stats card and it disappears after a month anyway.
 
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Prinz Eugn

Member
Wahrer said:
Did you two find out about each other in NM (currently), or back when you lived in Valparaiso? If the latter, small world, holy hell.
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found out about each other

I looked into his eyes and knew

Naw, we went to high school together. Met in special ed, for real... because New Mexico treated its "gifted" program as a wing of special education. It was funny, our classroom was always in danger of being invaded by actual special ed kids because it was in the same hallway. And I actually ended up in this "mixed" regular/special education history class because I guess I was flagged as special ed. It was as if I was a God amongst men.
 
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User 73706

Banned
Prinz Eugn said:
found out about each other

I looked into his eyes and knew

Naw, we went to high school together. Met in special ed, for real... because New Mexico treated its "gifted" program as a wing of special education. It was funny, our classroom was always in danger of being invaded by actual special ed kids because it was in the same hallway. And I actually ended up in this "mixed" regular/special education history class because I guess I was flagged as special ed. It was as if I was a God amongst men.
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:lol I was in elementary school Gifted down here in Florida and had the same problem.

On an unrelated note, I found HaloGAF's spirit animal. Pokemon XY reveal spoilers, for those staying dark. Scroll down.
 
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lybertyboy

Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Madness said:
Didn't Josh work on matchmaking and ranking systems at Blizzard for games like Starcraft II? Having him is only a positive in my book.
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There's such a great Josh story I'd love to be able to tell about a meeting a couple months ago involving someone from outside our studio coming to give a talk. Long story short, some conclusions were given based on Startcraft II's system. The person giving the talk didn't know that Josh created those systems. Hilarity ensued.
 
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BigShow36

Member
Prinz Eugn said:
found out about each other

I looked into his eyes and knew

Naw, we went to high school together. Met in special ed, for real... because New Mexico treated its "gifted" program as a wing of special education. It was funny, our classroom was always in danger of being invaded by actual special ed kids because it was in the same hallway. And I actually ended up in this "mixed" regular/special education history class because I guess I was flagged as special ed. It was as if I was a God amongst men.
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That's what they tell all the special ed kids.
 
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YourExWife

Member
Prinz Eugn said:
found out about each other

I looked into his eyes and knew

Naw, we went to high school together. Met in special ed, for real... because New Mexico treated its "gifted" program as a wing of special education. It was funny, our classroom was always in danger of being invaded by actual special ed kids because it was in the same hallway. And I actually ended up in this "mixed" regular/special education history class because I guess I was flagged as special ed. It was as if I was a God amongst men.
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I don't think I ever had a "class" in there per se. Mostly just used the place to do Calculus and LAN Unreal Tournament.
 
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Zeouterlimits

Member
lybertyboy said:
There's such a great Josh story I'd love to be able to tell about a meeting a couple months ago involving someone from outside our studio coming to give a talk. Long story short, some conclusions were given based on Startcraft II's system. The person giving the talk didn't know that Josh created those systems. Hilarity ensued.
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Some conclusions is far too ambiguous for effective arm chair development, I need more.
 
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Prinz Eugn

Member
BigShow36 said:
That's what they tell all the special ed kids.
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I dunno, I have it on pretty good authority from my mom that I'm special. In the good way.

Presumably.

YourExWife said:
I don't think I ever had a "class" in there per se. Mostly just used the place to do Calculus and LAN Unreal Tournament.
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Sir Sapo and I used it as the Angels 20 development lab and also a place to do Calculus (and Government).

Good hints about ranks, nice.
 
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Fracas

#fuckonami
StalkerUKCG said:
Rank talk is giving me the smallest glimmer of hope for Halo 5. Quick someone squish it before I get out of hand.
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The best ranking system of all time doesn't fix poor gameplay.

We know next to nothing about Halo 5's ranking system or gameplay though, so there's really no reason to be negative or hyped.
 
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FyreWulff

Member
Duji said:
What would it take for you to be utterly disappointed with a new Halo game? What is your criteria for failure? That's what many of don't see.



Are you TRYING to create the slowest first person shooter game of all time? The Reach DMR's ROF is 12 frames. Since the DMR is 5 shots, there are only 4 shot intervals/pauses (5-1). We then get a kill time of precisely 1.6 seconds (4*12 = 48 frames and 48f/30fps = 1.6s). The default bloom resets after 20 frames. If we ROF locked it at this we would get a WHOPPING minimum kill time of 2.67 seconds (4*20 = 80 frames and 80f/30fps= 2.67s). I'll take a DMR that can kill in 1.6 second with 100% bloom over a 2.67 second ZB DMR any day. It would be nearly impossible to connect 5 shots on someone without having them run away after the first or second shot. You would have to drastically reduce the movement speed and definitely get rid of sprint in order to make it work. Even then it would be a slow chore that even arthritic grandpas would get bored of.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and say you probably don't know what you're asking for.
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The DMR wouldn't be RoF locked all the way. You can actually fire it like so:

TAPTAP TAPTAP TAPTAP and it won't go outside the reticule.

It'd be somewhere in between single shot pace and that pace.

If you want it faster, we also have to nerf it's zoom level. In the current Reach environment, we can't change zoom levels, but we can repurpose the magnum since it has special hooks and a 2x zoom level. We could make that fire faster than a single shot pace DMR since it has a lower zoom and therefore wouldn't be a murderlaser on bigger maps.

For 85% in it's current state to make sense, the rest of the sandbox needed to be changed to be in line with the DMR/NR being buffed. They were not. To address bloom (and to be honest, people either like bloom or don't like it at all, hence just giving people both a bloom and a no-bloom weapon off spawn) without adjusting the sandbox, you have to RoF lock the guns at a pace that makes the individual useful but also keeps teamshot intact.

I'm not against changing damage levels on ZB Magnum to make it a 4SK either (the DMR didn't get a damage hook in the TU). 2x should make that okay.. I think. There would need to be a lot of iterative testing to find out the sweet spot. I'm just giving a starting point.

.. have the Reach TU hooks been added to the Megalo editors yet?
 
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Speedy Blue Dude

Banned
Sorry if I didn't make my joke clear guys, I ignored everyone in the past few pages, made the picture and just unignored everyone after. Just taking a jab at everyone who was doing it seriously.

I tried to make it a little clear it was a joke by putting "I love everyone here <3" at the end of my post in a spoiler, guess it wasn't too clear.

I don't have anyone on ignore, like I said in a post earlier today. I think it's silly to ignore another member of the community because of what they post, the entire point of a community is to have a group of people with various opinions, I don't understand why you would ignore someone.

Sorry my stupid joke wasn't clear.
 
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Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Ramirez said:
At last, these 3 are finally cool to someone.
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Hypertrooper said:
If you had talked to him, you only would have broken Luke Timmins' heart.
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Timmins is a networking guru, Josh is a matchmaking/ranking system guru. Love for all.

edit: Also, any GAF members working on a Ricochet map for the contest? I hope so. Contest is going swimmingly btw. We've received some pretty good submissions this week.
 
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heckfu

Banned
Wahrer said:
iusedtothinkyouwerecool.gif

I have a deal with Time-Warner on a biographical feature film anyways.
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I think the joke was lost. Here's an example on how his reply fits in with culture!

"Paul Finebaum (radio show), who's calling"
"Hey Pawwlllll, this is Tammy from Alabama. Long time listener, first time caller. I think the Panthers offense is garbage. Your response? I'll hang up and listen."

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gAg CruSh3r

gAg CruSh3r

Member
Tashi said:
edit: Also, any GAF members working on a Ricochet map for the contest? I hope so. Contest is going swimmingly btw. We've received some pretty good submissions this week.
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I am doing some last touch ups to my map. I need some help with a name for the map and some players to test it.. Wahrer seen my map at first but I fixed up my bases and made some minor tweaking here and there. I might put up a video later on tonight. I hope you guys like what you see!
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
gAg CruSh3r said:
I am doing some last touch ups to my map. I need some help with a name for the map and some players to test it.. Wahrer seen my map at first but I fixed up my bases and made some minor tweaking here and there. I might put up a video later on tonight. I hope you guys like what you see!
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How major are these tweaks? I'm doing a big playtest in about 20 minutes.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
gAg CruSh3r said:
Not that big.

My map is ready. I need a name to it that's all.

Edit: I have not submitted it yet but I can get on and put it on my file share?
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Yea I'll test it tonight, you don't have to submit it until the 8th. I can probably get you the gameplay if you'd like to watch that and take feedback from that. That's probably the best I can do for you. This is a contest after all haha.

Gimme the Waypoint link when it's available and I'll throw it into the test rotation.

As for the name, just call it like Beta Test 001 for now. Who cares.
 
nillapuddin

nillapuddin

Member
heckfu said:
"Paul Finebaum (radio show), who's calling"
"Hey Pawwlllll, this is Tammy from Alabama. Long time listener, first time caller. I think the Panthers Bama's offense is garbage. Your response? I'll hang up and listen."

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fix'd

god bless finebaum nation
roll damn tide
 
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