StalkerUKCG
Banned
Can we have some kind of smart algorithm so when im stood over rockets i actually pick up the rockets and not the assault rifle N00bie McScrubber 67 dropped
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Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power
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Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
And yes, I want forge back, as well as 4-player theatre. Just no forge maps in MM unless forge gets an overhaul that adds color, lol. A few things I'd like to see get in but probably won't are customizable skyboxes or scripted events. Things like that combined with a terrain editor/weather generator could create some absolutely sick maps.
Yup, so much this.
On that note:
When I'm standing over an enemy flag, I want to pick it up, not the assault rifle dropped by the guy I killed. Weapon juggling while standing over an objective is maddening and should have been resolved two games ago.
Only in clips maaaaaan. Forge is responsible for all that grey, frame rate issues in my multi player, and poorly designed maps for me to play on like The Cage. Theater is responsible for none of that and could give me hours of fun with friends watching awesomesauce and shenanigans alike.
Or picking up the flag instead of the fucking rockets.
Bungie is responsible for putting so many shitty Forge maps in matchmaking.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Ranked? Not ranked? Where are guests playing?
I'd say add two revolving week playlists to that. SWAT, Snipes, Living Dead, Grif, Rocket Race, Action Sack, Instagib, Noscopes, can all be thrown in there. With occasional new ones or old ones Fiesta FFA, things like that. If this isn't easy by now within the system you are doing something wrong.
Its almost necessary now to have an MLG playlist too.
You guys realize that Grifball and Infection are going nowhere, right?
I think it's better they get their own playlists anyhow, instead of worrying about people leaving games because they don't get the subtype they want.
I'm all for playlist reduction, but 343i isn't going to kill its popular playlists just because a segment doesn't enjoy them. The broad category of players obviously do.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Sheep need to be directed back into the Slayer Double Big Team playlists where they belong, They've found somewhere where they can farm credits and kills safely and need to be guided home. They can play their Zombies and Grifball everytime its up that week but we need to start funneling these kids back into the real playlists so we can get high populations and decent matchmaking pools.
Why not just have all playlists "ranked?" Separate playlists for ranked and not ranked to me just means there's one set of playlists where people are expected to play well and not quit and another where people can do whatever. Of course, people still quit all the time in ranked so it doesn't really matter.
Also, I'm quite tired of seeing (G) players in my games, regardless of playlist.
Silly gametypes belong in customs.
PUGs in MLG, from my experiences, are terrible so I'd imagine playing MLG customs with people you know is far more entertaining than trying to get a good game of MLG in matchmaking. But I don't play MLG enough to care about its inclusion or exclusion. All I really want is a reduction in the number of playlists.
Wouldn't be possible without Forge... I still blame Forge as it's constructed and implemented.
Don't blame the tools, blame the ones who wield them.
Not that Reach's Forge is all that great or anything.
That's the implementation issue, not a problem with Forge.
They can use Forge to change spawns, a map variant, or any exploit (soft kill zones, for example). They should have done way more with Forge and its fixes in Halo 3 but only relegated to simple ones like changing the spawn horror show in Narrows, fixing up Snowbound shield doors and The Pit attic spawns, and a few other minor things. Standoff was a hell hole for much of the MM days with the laser/Warthog running free, for instance. Outside MLG, no Forged maps that have been added into MM has been any good, and let's not talk about the terrible heavy variants they've used in BTB for 3/Reach. It's no Gulch Wars, that's for sure.
User 73706
Banned
Possible idea for H4's playlists:
Ranked
-Lone Wolf
-Double Team
-Team Slayer
-Team Skirmish
-Big Team Battle
-Invasion?
-Scoped Team Slayer? (stupid name I know, but it'd handle SWAT/Snipers)
Community
-MLG
-Grifball
-Action Sack ("Competitive" Minigames: Rocket Race, Speedflag, etc)
-Halo Party (Minigames like Jump Rope, Cat and Mouse)
-Weekend Warrior (Things like Laser Tag, Infection, possibly Team SWAT/Snipers, etc)
Cooperative
-Co-op Campaign
-Score Attack
-Firefight Doubles
-Firefight (Includes limited/unlimited)
-Arcadefight
And as for DLC weightings, Mercenaries playlists, guests, etc. they could be handled using the system I suggested a few pages ago:
Ranked
-Lone Wolf
-Double Team
-Team Slayer
-Team Skirmish
-Big Team Battle
-Invasion?
-Scoped Team Slayer? (stupid name I know, but it'd handle SWAT/Snipers)
Community
-MLG
-Grifball
-Action Sack ("Competitive" Minigames: Rocket Race, Speedflag, etc)
-Halo Party (Minigames like Jump Rope, Cat and Mouse)
-Weekend Warrior (Things like Laser Tag, Infection, possibly Team SWAT/Snipers, etc)
Cooperative
-Co-op Campaign
-Score Attack
-Firefight Doubles
-Firefight (Includes limited/unlimited)
-Arcadefight
And as for DLC weightings, Mercenaries playlists, guests, etc. they could be handled using the system I suggested a few pages ago:
thezerofire
Banned
Jump Rope is one of the worst gametypes I've ever played, if not the very worst.
Competitive minigames? Yeah...no.
I say the Metal Gear series has had consistently good music too.
The fact that 343 has Tajeen heading up the sound production is a real megaton for me.
I'm mostly trolling nerds... mostly. Truly though, I don't want half-assed features in Halo 4. Theater is busted in Reach without the ability to have at least 4 watching at the same time, and inability to switch to other's viewpoint. Forge is busted in Reach due to the grey and the frame rate issues.
Flesh them out... and if they don't fit, then limit the scope of something while providing other incredible features... like great maps that need little modification.
User 73706
Banned
I don't literally mean ranked competitive. Action Sack would cover games where you're outright against other teams like Rocket Hog Race or Hockey, and Minigames would just be general silliness, like aforementioned Jump Rope, etc.
You want to cut down the amount of playlist and make two minigame playlists lol
Deciding that you are the true Arbiter of what is Halo is pretty pathetic. How about *you* move on to another franchise if you're so bothered by offered choice?
Agree with the theater but I think I'm one of the few who doesn't mind the grey. Sure I'd love the colors but it doesn't bother me when I'm playing. And yea framerate should be locked at 30
Hypertrooper
Member
lol. He's the Arbiter I'd follow to death.
Frame rate is a bigger deal for sure, and it's a big deal on many default maps - not just forge. My favorite map in Reach is the MLG Pit remake. I think I like it better than the original...
So sad.
If that Beaver Creek custom we played last night was the MLG variant, I don't see it lasting long the way it is. Scoping from under the cave areas brings the framerate to single digits, just like the top of Prisoner.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Umm, Shots fired.
Directing people back towards "real" halo is a pretty good idea for the community, things like infection and griffball only serve to dilute the population of core playlists.
That stuff was kind of fun in the Halo 3 era, its got abused alot in reach and id like Halo 4 to focus on Core gameplay playlists.
Juices never claimed he is the true arbiter of what halo is
But well all know he is right, hire juices
How about *you* dont get aggressive to someone for wanting halo to go back to the core elements.
infection and all that crap worked perfectly fine as weekend playlists.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I would actually love to see some kind of "competitive minigames" playlist. The only reason I ever tread into Action Sack is to play Hogball and speedflag. All the other games are infinitely unfun to me.
Actually, what I want is some way to easily and reliably play fringe gametypes like that when I feel like it. A custom games browser could work out fine.
Actually, what I want is some way to easily and reliably play fringe gametypes like that when I feel like it. A custom games browser could work out fine.
lol a commentary on the decline of Halo, not the emergence of great new game types.
Bregmann Roche
Member
I don't know how 343 would implement this, but if they ever did I would declare Halo 4 the best game in the series. Even if we started with guns that shot kittens and all the maps were gray on gray with team gray vs. team also gray.
I would rather take away the incentives for playing kill-farming games to begin with. For living dead, track kills as a zombie but don't track kills for survivors (just track survival time). Whoever has the highest survival time and/or most zombie kills at the end wins. Same thing for any game type really, take away stat tracking and medals for things that shouldn't matter in that game type anyways. And if credits return in Halo 4 give more difficult/competitive playlists higher payouts and reduce payouts in playlists that are prone to credit farming abuse.
100% agree. If Reach shipped with 10 great non-forge maps and those were supplemented by 2-4 community-made forge maps that were rotated in and out on a regular basis I think Forge complaints would be relatively few.
Unfortunately the game shipped with a map roster that featured Pinnacle, The Cage, Hemorrhage, Paradiso, and Asylum with Atom and Cliffhanger added shortly thereafter. Cyren is basically right: that was nearly half the maps in matchmaking. Even after the first DLC pack, something gray was going to come up more often than not.
I doubt Halo 4 will have the same low-map count issue so I suspect, even if Halo 4's Forge is a feature-for-feature duplicate of Reach's Forge, we won't have the problems with The Grey that we had in Reach. Let's focus our worry powers on things like basic gameplay elements and PERKS!
Franklinator
Member
I used to like Living Dead, but I stopped playing because being a zombie sucked so bad
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This man now speaks for me when I am gone.
Reach population is in decline, it is time to consolidate the playlist.
I haven't played the original in a couple years. Soon I'll do Halo 3 again.
you were beaten son... get back in your cage
Hypertrooper
Member
Yep. But obviously people are not playing it for the "themed" maps. Especially it is pretty disappointed to see that the LD playlist has more player than TS sometimes.
I can understand the Grifball playlist somehow.
Classic's been giving them the business.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Thats the worst thing, matchmaking living dead is probably the worst combination of maps and gametypes that you can get in even Halo living dead. Why is it so popular? If you like living dead, why not play customs with far superior settings? Why not go play a game like Left 4 Dead which is going to be far superior to even customs?
I am inclined to think stats padding/ easy kills is why people play the current version of living dead.
Dont get me wrong, im not saying the playlist should 100% be cut, but if it isnt improved, why bother with it, its a playground for people who just want to stats pad. Like Juices said, if possible, funnel those players into something like Team Slayer.
Get rid of Team Grey, throw in Team Snipes and you have my vote.
Schmitty
Member
What a failure of a gametype...
It needs to be more players and shield doors to prevent the attacking team from rushing immediately to the next spots.
They're underrated. I could see them getting a high seed next week too. Some top FFA players.
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