Holy cross posting batman! I just put up a picture on the funny pictures thread of a scantily clad, good looking woman. I had no idea who it was and was going to let the GAF detectives do work. Turns out it's Shay Laren. Good choice, my friend. Good choice.
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Halo |OT2| Hyper-Athletic Speed And Mass And Weight and Power
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Holy cross posting batman! I just put up a picture on the funny pictures thread of a scantily clad, good looking woman. I had no idea who it was and was going to let the GAF detectives do work. Turns out it's Shay Laren. Good choice, my friend. Good choice.
Ironically, the amber color wasn't that great due to the desaturated, dusty color palette ODST had though.
shinobi602
Member
Why would you be against it? You don't have to use it. I'm all for fully customizable controls
Captain Blood
Member
You haven't missed a thing SP wise. There was the BR vidoc not sure if you missed that or not. It is also completely possible that I have missed something.
Haha, excellent summation of GAF's fixation.
"Yeah yeah Chief is cool Warthog's nice Spartan IV okay DAT BR"
Rehash of the info in Gameinformer.
The Real Napsta
Member
As much as I don't want it to, the gaming side thread sucked me in:
Catch up to CoD in what? Release frequency?
InaudibleWhispa
Member
Jaw drops.
Poker Face
Member
gonna need some ice for that burn.
Random guitar riffs/explosions/13 year old racist players/convoluted stories/more explosions
Did I mention explosions?
Shay Laren. No woman has crushed the hearts and minds of more men than her. Such glorious gifs, such poor videos
Steelyuhas
Member
To be fair, I'd love if Halo took at page out of COD's book for frequent DLC releases, good DLC implementation, and releasing patches.
Halo's DLC schedules and implementation still feel like it's stuck in 2005.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Well we would need scripted sequences every 5 minutes to keep our attention while playing campaign. And don't forget vehicles you can't actually drive, those are really important too!
Tell me about the numbers Robbert, TELL ME ABOUT THE NUMBERS.
As much as I don't want it to, the gaming side thread sucked me in:
I thought Proelite was a big Halo fan. I remember him/her posting a lot in the Halo 3 thread. Or maybe I'm wrong. I dunno. I'm getting old.
Gabotron ES
Member
Sad but true.
Eh, true. I'll give you that.
Lol at every single vehicle sequence in a CoD. I remember one near the end of MW2 where you're trying to drive a jeep into an airplane. It's impossible to miss no matter where you turn the wheel. Horrible.
He may have been fake trolling, I'm not really sure.
I'm ready for the next batch of Reach DLC maps!!!!
:lol I'm serious!
Also, anyone want to help me with an avatar... PLZ
Steelyuhas
Member
Haha perfect reply.
Introducing the Forge World Map Pack! More gray than you can handle!
I'll take your 800 msp now, if that's ok.
Poker Face
Member
You don't need alot of DLC if the maps you ship don't suck. Halo CE and Halo 2 had some ICONIC maps that came on the disk.
Steelyuhas
Member
Certainly it's easier to have a lack of DLC if the disc maps were good, but some of the Halo 2's best maps (and some of the best maps in series) were DLC maps.
In this day and age, for a AAA multiplayer game, you really do need frequent and well implemented DLC, and Halo has certainly not been up to speed on that. Hopefully it changes with Halo 4. (The implementation is really main the concern, because it's awful. Maps that you pay money for need to come up in matchmaking.)
Yep.
I didn't know that people could talk about concept art of a hologram's boobs all day, but I was severely mistaken.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Thats because they brought out a season pass, The first map pack was already on the disc and i think part of the second map pack was and they had an obligation to try and keep the community "active" which it is far from.
Gears of war is great as a SP game but once its taken into MP it falls apart plagued by broken weapons and a skill gap that completely alienates new players and the only people you find online now are the hardcore fans.
Gears map also require a lost less work than halo maps, its essentially draw a square some obstacles in that square and multiple chest high walls, nice texture and ship it.
Steelyuhas
Member
Drawing some bold conclusions there.
Yeah, um, before anyone decides to to add a punch line to this by finding some creepy DeviantArt "Unrealistically inflated breasts" fan 'art'... let me assure you, that's some troubled water you do not want to cross, my friends.
Furry Cortana, how does that even work?
That's because every Gears map is the same.
Poker Face
Member
You may be over-simplifying this a bit...
Can you consider something iconic right when it comes out?
DLC post release is great because it gives us more variety and more spaces to use. You can't fit 10 maps for each gametype on the disc and don't have the manpower to do it. DLC also has the massive advantage of being developed against a non-moving target engine, which is why it tends to look better than disc maps.
You also have the hindsight of actual play statistics and player behavior. The final Halo 2 maps were hardened against superbouncing and people getting through walls, which the disc maps and first DLC maps were unfortunately unable to be adapted to. Halo 3's later maps omitted the cut Equipment and did not account for them being there, and were also hardened against known engine bugs like the latter Halo 2 maps. Reach's DLC had better uses of low-grav than the disc maps, because they were able to learn what went wrong with Zealot's use of it.
And let us not ignore Foundry and Sandbox, which essentially relaunched Halo 3 as it were with new community content, which was an adaptation to how the community used the game. They never expected Forge to be used to the extent that it was at launch.
* rest of post bitching about the poor Reach post-launch support snipped out*
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Maybe but it stands to reason that Jumping,vehicles AA and grav lifts + forge add a lot more to map development time than beast mode and horde do since beast is essentially reverse horde mode.
Call me captain hyperbole
Poker Face
Member
I'm not saying you don't need DLC, I'm saying it doesn't need to come out every month. I agree maps like terminal, turf, relic, warlock, and elongation were incredible.
But maps like Blood Gulch? Beaver Creek, Lockout, Ascension, Zanzibar, Colossus, Burial Mounds, Headlong? Halo 2 was definitely the peak in maps (imo at least) and I think Halo 3 had okay maps, but nothing that even came close to Halo 2.
Steelyuhas
Member
Without any insider information I don't see how you can declare that Halo maps take a lot more development time and resources than Gears maps. Just based off an general impressional assumption, I would say that having a map support competitive, horde, and beast seems like a lot more work, both in design and coding, than just competitive MP, even if that competitive MP is more complex.
That's not really the point though. They need a planned out DLC plan and be able to deliver on it. Don't do shit like release a pack in March (Defiant) and then have no DLC until December. Halo 3 was even worse with a full year between Legendary and Mythic 1. And for the love of god, you have to code your matchmaking algorithms to actually give DLC owners the chance to play the maps they paid for.
note: DICE/EA is making the same mistake right now. They released their first DLC in December after the late October release. They promised since well before release a consistent and "agressive" DLC plan, and now the second DLC isn't coming out until June, and it's not even a DLC that caters to their core fanbase.
Yeah I'm not saying you need some fat DLC pack every month, but a consistent and resonably frequent release of new content.
That'd make a sweet avatar quote
An essential skill, my friend.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Entirely agree this was just based on what iv seen from the gears maps and how "simple" i perceive them in comparison to halo maps
I think its more to do with the ratio of actual paying customers than anything else, I dont think many players even buy the maps alot of people i know dont sadly. Its either wait 10+ mins to find people with the maps or play without
Roughly every 3 months, like Halo 3 and Reach started out with, is about what I'd want. Every month would be overkill.
But you can't help but be annoyed when the other shooters are getting constant DLC releases while you just sit around waiting for MS to figure out what game they can tie in Halo's next DLC release with. There's some Jekyll and Hyde shit going on when the other MS published shooter, Gears, is getting constant DLC releases out of the gate, even counting the on-disc DLC maps. And technically, MS is paying for the CoD content too, with their timed exclusivity.
Then you add the second kneecapping of splitting the userbase with the Anniversary disc and not releasing Halo: Reach: Mythic, and it's just facepalms all around.
I don't understand the thought process of "Hey, this guy doesn't appreciate me going into a thread of a game I don't like and bashing it. He must be a fanboy because he enjoys people practicing common courtesy!"
Do people not realise that HaloGAF criticizes Halo more than just about any group?
But yeah, I'm staying out of it.
Steelyuhas
Member
To be honest, I will happily take a seasons pass for Halo 4 just based on the fact that is promises DLC will actually be released on a set schedule.