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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
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ElzarTheBam
Member
Goddamned freaky tarantula fingers.
Gah, you're right. I actually own a tarantula, and now I can't un-see those.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Looks like a metal spider climbing around the front of the BR
edit: I see I've been beaten to that joke. That's what happens when you don't refresh the page
edit: I see I've been beaten to that joke. That's what happens when you don't refresh the page
Rickenslacker
Banned
Couldn't agree more. Reach itself would look a lot better just by taking out that grain.
Well fuck.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Just be glad it's nothing major, I on the other hand had bioshock 2 spoiled by this:
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Playing ODST for the first time
This sax is the sex
This sax is the sex
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Halo 4 music BTS video. LOTS of new music samples.
TS x Massacre
Member
Nice find, thanks.
HigherLevel
Member
How have you somehow avoided that game this long?
Improved it tenfold for me.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Oh, nice find! I really like the sound on some of those songs snippets.. I think this soundtrack should be a real treat. Also, it seemed one of those songs had a fingerprint of past Halo music in it.
Hope so. Some Reach media was misleading in regards to picture quality though. (not bungie's fault)
Cool.
So detailed. Very eye catching, should look really awesome during reloads and stuff, as opposed to boring black gloves
Any other source for this by any chance? (iphone)
I haven't heard anything that's as powerful as Marty's stuff, as of yet. All this could change when the controller's in my hands and I'm combining the music with the images, but from a purely musical perspective this all sounds a bit standard, and without a clear personality or direction.
This could have to do with how little we know of the game and it's plot.
This could have to do with how little we know of the game and it's plot.
NullPointer
Member
Right there with ya. My ears twitched and perked up and I got Halo 3 flashbacks.
None of the other sampled bits drew me in at all.
Well to a degree if you feel that way, I'm not sure that it'll be improved. The best soundtracks stand by themselves, in addition to aiding the visual and emotional impact in the game.
That said, even for Marty's brilliance you could say a lot of the action cues were repetitive when stripped out of the game. I'm guessing that it's along those lines. Without hearing all the complete music I'm reserving judgement.
It's clear from the videos that this guy understands music and understands how to experiment to find what he's looking for. That leaves me hopeful.
The OST won't be an instant buy like the previous scores, but I can only hope that it will eventually match the threshold of what came before.
That's the exact chord progression from the end of "This is the Hour" from the Halo 3 OST--when the Flood hit Voi.
The Real Napsta
Member
Yeah, that 7 note riff from Halo 3 still makes my spine tingle whenever I hear it.
Do duddoo duh do .. DO DO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOCXxtDMqXE&t=2m3s
<3
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The music is the only feature revealed I'm still kinda wary about. It's a hell of a thing to change from an iconic sound for 10 years, and everything they've shown so far sounds really flat and safe.
I don't doubt Neil understand his music, some of the things he's talking about in these videos and actually doing in his studio boggle my mind; and there's a clear demonstration of music theory, especially when he talks about how he writes his arrangements.
To me though, as someone who knows zilch about music I just compare what I'm hearing here to, for example, that video shadders posted and it's just not on that same level. I'm yet to hear that section that tingles my spine, that makes me say "wow", that thing that makes me overwhelmed with one specific emotion.
It's all musically competent but I wouldn't describe it as musically excellent. Hopefully, as I say, my opinion changes.
And just to point out, I think the musical tone is one thing that doesn't desperately need to change. Sure, new tones need to be added to represent the game's unique flavour, but to me the music is as much a part of "HALO" as the logo or the Master Chief.
To me though, as someone who knows zilch about music I just compare what I'm hearing here to, for example, that video shadders posted and it's just not on that same level. I'm yet to hear that section that tingles my spine, that makes me say "wow", that thing that makes me overwhelmed with one specific emotion.
It's all musically competent but I wouldn't describe it as musically excellent. Hopefully, as I say, my opinion changes.
And just to point out, I think the musical tone is one thing that doesn't desperately need to change. Sure, new tones need to be added to represent the game's unique flavour, but to me the music is as much a part of "HALO" as the logo or the Master Chief.
Zeouterlimits
Member
The Josh Holmes video was nice, I continue to like the guy.
The music video was really interesting. The cuts made it a bizarre experience, but neat all the same. I'm not sure if I'm more or less worried.
It does make me more hyped as now I have to see how the game ends up coming together.
He mentions again in the interview that all he had was his memories of what he saw in Seattle when he visited for inspiration. While probably an exagguration, does it strike anyone else as odd how disconnected from the whole game he was?
Seems so different to Marty's process.
The music video was really interesting. The cuts made it a bizarre experience, but neat all the same. I'm not sure if I'm more or less worried.
It does make me more hyped as now I have to see how the game ends up coming together.
He mentions again in the interview that all he had was his memories of what he saw in Seattle when he visited for inspiration. While probably an exagguration, does it strike anyone else as odd how disconnected from the whole game he was?
Seems so different to Marty's process.
The music is doing the opposite effect for me. Look at past Halo games' music. The choral parts were long and unpronounced to give a sense of wonder and unknown. The short pronounced bits are making it sound like I'm gonna go visit Tolfdir again. There's too much focus on the treble in the orchestration from what we've seen so far, and the only major synth piece that I've heard is the concept art trailer(which was near-perfect). It's sounding like generic sci-fi and not Halo. Give me the cellos at 2:50 in that last link, give me the percussion, give me the synth, and most importantly give me a theme to latch onto. Halo 1 had the monks, Halo 2 had the rock, Halo 3 had the E dorian piano, ODST had the sax, Reach had the general Halo sound.
I picked one up today, I live in Canada though so not sure it depends on your location. Do what I did and call them.
NullPointer
Member
*bro-fist*
Although when I think of Reach I think of Winter Contingency. The first three minutes are incredible and it literally pulled me into the game from the moment the game booted up.
I won't miss it one bit if they ditch the hair rock though.
I love what I'm hearing, and I thought I would be pessimistic about the new composer
Hypertrooper
Member
Where can I listen to the whole soundtrack?
Zeouterlimits
Member
In the land of common sense where we're commenting just on what we've heard and not making final judgements.
Edit: Too slow
Rickenslacker
Banned
Winter Contingency is the only music in Reach that I can actually remember. I don't really have any strong musically tied moments in that campaign like I do the rest of the series. So the only thing I think of when I think Reach music is tribal drums.
Bregmann Roche
Member
Like it.
Like it.
Why not "Perfection: The HaloGAF Podcast", brought to you by Plywood.
Like it and/or any variations of it.
An entire wing of 343 is dedicated to completely re-tooling the Mecha Decoration subroutine.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I'm similar, Reach's soundtrack never stuck for me, it's the one I listen to least.
Eh, it's a bit of a fallacy. No one would throw away code that has basically been production tested for 2-10 years.
Older but legendary article on the subject of code "re-writes".
Breaking Benjamin is going to use Halo 4 as a platform to re-launch their careers, I know it.
Some of this is kind of cool, but wtf at the vocals part
Neil Davidge interview b-roll as well.
http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/757887/halo-4-neil-davidge-interview.jhtml#id=1665659
He seems like the best person they could have found for this.
It's about using the vocals as an instrument. It feels human, but they're really just singing notes.
NullPointer
Member
Two other tracks have managed to stick with me and define Reach:
Pillar of Autumn | Epilogue
Both for how the themes play out and how well they set the mood in the game. I have a soft spot for anthems and moody, spacious soundscapes - which is also what drew me to Massive Attack.
Its definitely too early for me to judge Halo 4's OST from these fragments, but my initial impressions are very hit and miss, with most missing the mark. But again its all out of context and scattered so I'm not fretting.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Playing ODST, before the first flashback mission I fought off a small pack of Covenant, left one of the Jackal snipers alive, didn't want to waste Carbine ammo. Came back a hour and a half later, run into him walking on the street, melee him in the face.
The Librarian
Banned
I touched that doorknob.
Okay. So maybe it was more "What if the phones...rang?" But still.
Garrett 2U
Member
The hidden gem of the Reach OST
Look at the links I posted. All of those showed the general theme of the music while the game was announced. For Halo 4 we've got some major conflicting themes and we're only 3 major pieces in. Are we to latch onto discovery synth with ominous undertones? How about the flute and orchestra piece without any context? Those 2 don't match up and the Halo 4 reveal trailer piece of ominous monks(which gives me chills everytime I watch the trailer) all argue with each other.
NullPointer
Member
And put to a satisfying cut-scene. Whenever we replay that level in co-op everybody shuts the hell up.
I touched that doorknob.
Okay. So maybe it was more "What if the phones...rang?" But still.
Oh god. I remember that story, with your dad waiting in the car. Man those were fun days, even if you were the butt of a few too many jokes. It was all in good spirits.
Then EazyB fell(deservedly).
Then Reach came out.
Hypertrooper
Member
They said a lot that they are going to manipulate the recording stuff (make it slower etc). How should you get an real impression of it when you have not heard the final version?