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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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Smart business decision, then.
Comes down to what it came down to before: is the value of the package worth the price and your time?
Not saying that the stance is irrational. It's a matter of principle, I understand.
Mister Negative
Member
My guess(/hope) would be that the primary color of your armor changes to team color, and the "pattern" stays whatever color you chose for it.
That might be way too distracting though, especially on stuff like the forest armor. So I dunno.
It's not even really about the skins. It's the principle of the matter. It's pretty weak that there's content on something I paid for that I can't have. Even then, I'm not that particularly upset. I do see how some people, for example Stalker, are though.
Apologies for the derail as well.
edit: I should also add that the only thing about preorder/exclusive items that really irks me is the early access to specializations with the LE. I don't think MS would go so far as to offer retailer exclusive, non cosmetic items, but we'll see I guess.
Microsoft knows people will do it.
Reach's menus were leagues beyond the other games though, but I do hope they go even cleaner. I loved the panning artwork behind the panes, but in the long run it became an eyesore. White or tones of grey would look elegant as fuck, even with that subtle grid texture.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Nah, I get it. Shit, I'm starting a petition right now. You guys can PM me for details later.
TRUE Halo fans only, btw.
Mister Negative
Member
Yeah, I really liked the reach artwork behind the menus, but the shades of gray got very old after a while. Here's hoping Halo 4's menus are a bit more colorful.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
When you see it, you'll shit bricks
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Is there really a Spartan in that picture? You'll have to point him out.
Hitmonchan107
Member
I'm trying not to be overly negative here, but having multiple retailer exclusives makes me sad. I was okay with one store having a retailer exclusive, but now I feel like I won't be able to have the most complete edition of a Halo game.
I can understand the philosophies behind the decision:
1) People can now choose the store that will have the lowest price or give the most benefits of purchasing from that store without feeling left out.
2) More people will pre-order Halo 4.
Ultimately, these are skins, and the likelihood of me using them one month outside of launch are pretty slim. I guess I'm just thankful that it's only skins and not skulls.
I can understand the philosophies behind the decision:
1) People can now choose the store that will have the lowest price or give the most benefits of purchasing from that store without feeling left out.
2) More people will pre-order Halo 4.
Ultimately, these are skins, and the likelihood of me using them one month outside of launch are pretty slim. I guess I'm just thankful that it's only skins and not skulls.
Franklinator
Member
Assuming you pre-ordered Halo 4 at your local Gamestop
Well, for me, it's not a disc DLC issue. It's an issue of completeness. I purchased the Legandary Edition of Reach from Gamestop so that I could have everything I could possibly get. I got all of the relevant achievements on Waypoint, I redeemed my Halo PC CD Key on Bungie.net, I played Halo 2 on the last day, I had Bungie Pro. The only thing I could have that I do not is the Marathon flair, and that's because I didn't particularly see importance in something that I only see in a menu.
For this, it's different. This is my SPARTAN. I want him to be complete. What if I don't use the armor? I still want to have it, because having it at the very least gives me the option of using it in the future if I do ever desire to do so.
For this, it's different. This is my SPARTAN. I want him to be complete. What if I don't use the armor? I still want to have it, because having it at the very least gives me the option of using it in the future if I do ever desire to do so.
Halo 5 will have pre-order exclusive perks. Calling it.
I plan on getting my copy of Halo 4 at Gamestop. If there's anyone that's getting it elsewhere that wants the Gamestop skin but can't, let me know, I'll trade with you.
Also, when do we get these codes? I'd assume when you actually pick up the game.
Also, when do we get these codes? I'd assume when you actually pick up the game.
How many dicks will you consume if you're wrong?
Only 1 pound dicks.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Is that multiple 1 pound dicks or only 1 pound of dicks?
Ask Elzar.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'd be down with patterns being available in team games. Base color for everyone is red or blue (etc) and they can have a white pattern.
I did that too. Although it was more "this is Bungie's last Halo game, might as well go all out", but I managed to get all the nameplates, and all the bonus armor (easy since it was from Gamestop only), with the only thing left for me to get is the Skullface and the last two armor effects. I'll be able to say for once that I've gotten 100% of the content of a Halo game.
On a side note, I believe the later DLC of Gears of War 3 gave you the "preorder only" player skins. I seem to remember the Savage Kantus from Amazon, at least, was unlocked for you if you bought the last DLC pack.
If they're already planning 3 DLC packs, they may have similar plans in store for the Halo 4 retailer bonuses. Hopefully it's more Reach and not Gears though in terms of the armory. Reach just hid the retailer/version exclusive stuff from the Armory and didn't count it against your %. Gears of War 3 reminds you constantly that you didn't get the skins.
Oh, and if these are off for certain modes, it looks like Megalo (if it is there) finally can modify specific player model parameters. Hopefully they actually use this for something interesting, like giving everyone a camo pattern in SWAT.
Gabotron ES
Member
What? that's deplorable... smh at EPIC, not cool.
Gabotron ES
Member
Why are most phallic related queries deferred to Elzar?
"Hey Gabo, remember how you didn't preorder at GameStop? Ha, now who's the dummy?"
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Yeah I hoping the skin stays in action and the primary color just goes to team colors and secondary to white, like the stripes we have seen in some screens:
StalkerUKCG
Banned
You get the model but the skins are different so for example if you have trashball cole from the beta unlock he has blue pants the one added via dlc has brown pants.
Very much, this was one of the great motivators for me.
Also, I'll be fine if I could get the costumes later for a decent price, but I don't want it going the Gears 3 route of "Here, buy this massive pack of skins from launch for $45."
they are radically different.
Finally some good news, I don't like Reach's menu.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
From what we have seen they seem to be employing a much more modular looking interface with large selectable tiles as apposed to menu options I liked it
Steelyuhas
Member
As long as WolfGAF still has their Wolf emblem so the WolfGAF clan can ride into battle, then we're good.
Haha are you going to keep bringing up the elites until the end of time? It's like Cyren's hopeless hope for spectator mode...
I assume so. In team games, your primary colors will be red or blue, but you keep the pattern on your armor. Just my guess.
Became an eyesore? I think the concept art backgrounds are awesome till this day.
Dreamcrusher.jpg
Nah, I trust they'll be cool and functional in their own way.
Haha are you going to keep bringing up the elites until the end of time? It's like Cyren's hopeless hope for spectator mode...
I assume so. In team games, your primary colors will be red or blue, but you keep the pattern on your armor. Just my guess.
Became an eyesore? I think the concept art backgrounds are awesome till this day.
Dreamcrusher.jpg
Nah, I trust they'll be cool and functional in their own way.
Mister Negative
Member
Spartans on skateboards confirmed.
Maximum Kinect usability.
Zeouterlimits
Member
The problem is that it's manipulative unfair bs that hurts the passionate fans the most.
Explain to me why we shouldn't be upset?
I really, really hoped ye'd want to and be able to fight against marketing over money moves like this.
Explain to me why we shouldn't be upset?
I really, really hoped ye'd want to and be able to fight against marketing over money moves like this.
Gabotron ES
Member
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
You know what hurts passionate fans the most?
Lack of dedi's and an unstable framerate for the franchises last 3 games.
fankie pls debis and locked fwamewate
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Thats how I feel, I think iv established how I feel to you guys about this digital content stuff and I kind of feel like I won't be getting all the content with the game and I'd be fine with that if I could reasonably grab the content from other retailers via dlc or eBay but dlc looks unlikely and eBay is not going to be cost effective
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Because they are skins, and mostly ugly at that.
Yes, yes, the act of pre-order exclusives is awful, but if it has to happen I'd rather lose out on an ugly Best Buy skin I'd never use anyways. Better that than having the BR exclusive to Amazon.
Not really interested in multi anyway, but juts something humorous that my dev side notices. Them cutting an entire biped class out of multi, then suddenly, a bunch of armor and emblem variants that would be easy to fit in now if you drop an entire biped class from being loaded in the maps. Each armor variant and emblem does have memory implications, because it has to load them in for each session. Note: I'm not saying this is why Elites got cut. Just something humorous.
I've already accepted Elites have been marginalized, they have been since Reach. You either use them in a special way or not at all. Although I'm still perplexed as to why they're hunched over again if they're not in multiplayer.. consistency with Halo 3?
Anyway, people that didn't like the Capcom disc unlocks should be raising just as much shit over this.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
It doesn't have to happen. Halo 4 can be made and released without this retailer exclusive nonsense. Look at 99.999% of other video games releases.
It was a choice and a bad one.
Because you're a grown up?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Grizzlei on HBO pointed this out.
From the Limited Edition announcement bulletin:
So they didn't want us to choose between ancillary items when making decisions for Halo 4 at retail, and then basically decided to force everyone buying the game to then choose between ancillary items at retail.
Seriously?
From the Limited Edition announcement bulletin:
So they didn't want us to choose between ancillary items when making decisions for Halo 4 at retail, and then basically decided to force everyone buying the game to then choose between ancillary items at retail.
Seriously?