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Halo |OT5| Believe, Again
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StalkerUKCG
Banned
People complain about AR's because its generally disliked across GAF because it makes you useless on spawning. I don't remember ever seeing people complain about being killed by a AR but you did and i don't care to argue about it.
Iv completely stopped caring about this.
As a side note a quick look at your gameplay stats points towards the assumption that maybe you're not the most qualified to be arguing the effectiveness of weapons since most of your games are going to be in the lower skill groups.
Uh oh.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I guess I'm not MLG Pro enough for you.
Hydranockz
Member
Weapon roles and effectivenesseseses fall apart at lower skill levels? Confirmned!
StalkerUKCG
Banned
I never said that, i said that if your playing with less skilled players your going to be playing in a environment that's more forgiving and thus allows certain weapons to seem more effective than they are.
Steelyuhas
Member
I lost it on smoother.
LOL
As someone that doesn't live there, but has spent considerable time there, his comments are 100% correct haha.
There is no accurate way to compare sales anymore. Sometimes the publisher releases sales numbers of their games, and that's all you can really trust. In any case, I fail to see how sales dictates with game is better. How many of you believe that MW3 is better than the original MW?
Do you have a large Ari Gold GIF folder? If so, I want to go to there.
I had many other quoted posts to reply to, but the replies were all the same: POPCORN.GIF
This was you wasn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n-bhI12SK8&list=UU3iwk4pq6OYw9MGPvhFFUKg&index=7&feature=plcp
Nice to meet you.
Zoso Achilles
Member
He didn't drop from any games as far as I remember. I'm using the stats provided in game from the service record which reports (wins)/(games played); the stat is the same for us both.
Frank or David, would either of you like to take a stab at why this is happening?
ArchedThunder
Banned
I've played with plenty of high 40's and 50's.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Is there a group playing Halo 3 right now?
ArchedThunder
Banned
Uh, no. I may not be the best at Halo but I'm not an idiot. He wasn't even aiming at him most of the time and allowed the BR user to much room to move around. He also tried to melee from 8 light years away.
Dominant at close range
Now I go into Double Teams and my brother is accused of CIRCLE BOOSTING IN HEY-LO FUCKING REACH.
THE GAME WITH NO RANKS
Then the guy who did best on their team has this backyard walmart wifi connection and its apparent it was his cause he quits at the end of the game AND THE HOST HAS TO SWITCH SO I CAN SEE MY STATS.
THE GAME WITH NO RANKS
Then the guy who did best on their team has this backyard walmart wifi connection and its apparent it was his cause he quits at the end of the game AND THE HOST HAS TO SWITCH SO I CAN SEE MY STATS.
Hydranockz
Member
So you know whose names to write on the aderall perscriptions? Cunning.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Thats nice, Im not going to dig into your game history to check that and/or the level of each person you played with so ill take your word for it. (for the record im a 44 in h3 and i suck rank =/= skill)
I very much doubt you would hold the same opinion of weapons as you currently do if you had played against actual good BR users because that weapon is known for dominating at essentially every range.
Like i said, i care little about this if you choose to maintain that those weapons are dominant at a specific range then you can and i really dont care.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Because Halo 4 isn't out yet.
Steelyuhas
Member
lolz
Boost that invis truskill bro
Direct me to this epic Ari Gold GIF folder you sonofabitch!
haha
Seriously though
ArchedThunder
Banned
Halo 3 matches by rank, so how would looking at my stats even say what kind of people I get paired up with?
Just because I get a certain amount of kills with a certain weapon doesn't mean I must automatically only get paired up against bad players.
I'm not gonna try and anger anyone but it seemed like you were taking it personally because he was playing Halo differently, IMO.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Mister Negative
Member
I remember posting about how I sometimes found AR/Pistol starts fun and HaloGAF got extremely upset.
They take rifle starts very seriously.
Hydranockz
Member
ArchedThunder
Banned
Because I play Halo differently I am the Hitler of this thread.
I can see that. I think rifles are absolutely great, but close range weapons shouldn't get as much hate as they do, because in many situations they are very effective against long range weapons if you know how to use them well.
Hydranockz
Member
Woah, I thought you were perma'd. Nice to see you back.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Except it doesn't... nade plus BR kills everything... and faster than any non power weapon could possibly do the same; honestly, H3 played out just like H2 and CE in terms of one weapon that ruled them all. Skilled players with BR's slapped everyone using anything else at any range, all day, every day. (power weapons aside of course).
Precision weapons by their very nature are better at almost everything in terms of securing kills, than non-precision weapons. They may have to be combined with other mechanics, but skilled players do that innately.
Every weapon has a use? OK - sure... if I'm using it, in a role I decide, at an appropriate range... obviously it has a "use"; but the sandbox was just as useless relative to the one utilitarian weapon available when combined with other mechanics and map structure.
Complaining about an AR killing you (or any weapon) is downright silly...
Mister Negative
Member
Oh, I completely disagree that the close range weapons are effective against long range weapons at their intended range. A skilled DMR user is going to beat out a skilled AR user maybe 85-90 times out of 100.
The problem lies in skewed data, though. Because people switching to their AR are generally (emphasis on GENERALLY) less skilled than those that are going to just stick to their DMR.
That's not to say that there aren't situations in which I don't pull out my AR in order to say, ambush someone and get the kill the easy way. But the times where I do that are negligible compared to the times where I just stick with my DMR.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Put it out of its misery, Plywood. I'm thinking Old Yeller gif.
ArchedThunder
Banned
When I say close range I mean close enough that a second will fill the gap into melee territory.
Steelyuhas
Member
The problem is not with ARs and other auto weapons, it's the fact we have never had a decent starting weapon in all playlists. I don't care who uses an AR as long as we all have access to a BR/DMR. Without a decent precision weapon on spawn, games can get very lopsided.
Feel free to use an AR against a great player with a BR, just don't expect to have a chance.
RIP propipe
Feel free to use an AR against a great player with a BR, just don't expect to have a chance.
RIP propipe
Steelyuhas
Member
I will trust in about almost anything you and Domino say about Halo 4, but this I won't believe until proven otherwise by playing it myself.
OK... so if you can force me into a phone booth you have a point - but that's creating a framework for your own argument that doesn't exist consistently enough.
You cannot force me into that phone booth enough for it to matter. Certainly not enough to make most of the sandbox matter against a skilled precision weapon user.
I'm so happy that 4 is letting you spawn with whatever you want, one of the changes I support without question.
I hope you have fun unlocking that BR! :/
ArchedThunder
Banned
I'm so happy that 4 is letting you spawn with whatever you want, one of the changes I support without question.
I've wanted to be able to start with a carbine when ever I wanted since Halo 2.
My man. 2 for 2.
Poker Face
Member
Steelyuhas
Member
I'm so happy that 4 is letting you spawn with whatever you want, one of the changes I support without question.
Agreed 100%
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