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Halo |OT5| Believe, Again

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monome

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I honestly feel like it would be the cheap way out to avoid her inevitable death, but I could see something like that happening somewhere down the line.

343i is making The Chief and Cortana pillars of the Universe.
If 343i is serious about making great Halo games post Reclaimer trilogy, they have to tread carefully when building the foundations of the extended universe.
Anything cheap will not last the scrutiny of time.

They have to prepare for a Halo world when Chief and Cortana are but memories, and pay tribute to them accordingly to how much $ they brought them.

Metal Gear's fiction has suffered greatly from the lack of planning whereas sales kept it going longer than expected.

Again, the future of Halo cannot be Chief/Cortana's son, so they better get a good story out that makes future events both possible and great on their own yet deeply connected.

Spartans "insert roman number", aliens etc...this is Halo but going forward it will need more than them. That is if 343i wants its stories praise worthy. it could be Halo becomes a simple arena type F2P game :-(

How do you know the first ring is at Charum Hakkor? As far as I remember, Primordium doesn't spell out where the rings were placed.

How do you know she was saying that to the Didact? I got the impression she was talking to the Chief.
I think it was meant as fan possible fiction rather than facts. And wether 343i gives it all and finishes the current line of stories with the trilogy, or we get filler Halos (structures, not the games) along the way 'till we arrive to the important ones...I hope we get the short but meaningfull treatment and that any Halo place we visit is impactfull and not just a possible galactic annihilation "thing".
 

wwm0nkey

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How do you know the first ring is at Charum Hakkor? As far as I remember, Primordium doesn't spell out where the rings were placed.

How do you know she was saying that to the Didact? I got the impression she was talking to the Chief.

Well not first Halo but it was the first Halo that ever fired.
 

monome

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Why? I got the impression for Chief because the shot right after hers shows his hand clenching.

yep, that's what men do when women yell at them...and it rarely ends up good.
I suppose the Chief wears a wife-beater under all that Mjolnir.
 
How do you know the first ring is at Charum Hakkor? As far as I remember, Primordium doesn't spell out where the rings were placed.
How do you know she was saying that to the Didact? I got the impression she was talking to the Chief.
They implied it was to the chief, but I'm have a feeling it was to the Didact. She can't have gone that rampant in the first game of 3...
 
Why? I got the impression for Chief because the shot right after hers shows his hand clenching.


Oh. That's what you meant.

I suppose I don't really have any way of backing this up, but I believe that the Infinity is carrying some sort of dark secret (it just seems like it doesn't really have a particular purpose, and the bullshit ONI excuse of discovering new worlds doesn't convince me), and that between crashing, and then the eventual relaunch of it, a stand-off takes place between crazy-Cortana and Del Rio - who is perhaps influenced by the Didact (as it could be his vessel off planet).

Honestly, it's ridiculous, wild speculation on my part.
 

monome

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They implied it was to the chief, but I'm have a feeling it was to the Didact. She can't have gone that rampant in the first game of 3...

why everybody takes it for granted that Cortana's ramapncy is so important...Halo 4 could have been so many things. I don't want the trilogy to focus on this for too long. It's great if it serves a prupose and helps meshing different threads together. But Halo is a shooter, I'm not gonna bother with a crazy AI for the next 7 years. More places, more ennemies, more weapons, more willains, more heroes, more mysteries, awesome high stake stories etc...One game dedicated to solving/evolving Chief/Cortana's relationship is good enough, especially when other stories can be just as engaging and emotionnal.
 

Fuchsdh

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why everybody takes it for granted that Cortana's ramapncy is so important...Halo 4 could have been so many things. I don't want the trilogy to focus on this for too long. It's great if it serves a prupose and helps meshing different threads together. But Halo is a shooter, I'm not gonna bother with a crazy AI for the next 7 years.

Because Cortana's rampancy was going to be very important in Halo 3 until the story cuts and the "all better now" cinematic that glossed over everything.

As soon as Frankie was on the Halo 4 team, I expected Cortana's rampancy to be A Big Issue.
 

monome

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Because Cortana's rampancy was going to be very important in Halo 3 until the story cuts and the "all better now" cinematic that glossed over everything.

As soon as Frankie was on the Halo 4 team, I expected Cortana's rampancy to be A Big Issue.

that's not what I mean.
Sure if Halo 4 stars Chief/Cortana rampancy has to be adressed. And since it's a topic why not make it a high stake one and engage in a more emotionnal story not yet presented in a Halo game.

That said, it's not oscar worthy material, nor Nebula awards. So I hope once 343i has played its card, the importance of it will further evolve the story rather than drag along the course of the trilogy when other emotionnal stories could be treated and better serve the fiction and the games in general.
 

Overdoziz

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Because Cortana's rampancy was going to be very important in Halo 3 until the story cuts and the "all better now" cinematic that glossed over everything.

As soon as Frankie was on the Halo 4 team, I expected Cortana's rampancy to be A Big Issue.
Cortana wasn't going rampant in Halo 3 though. Just Gravemind screwing her up.
 

TheOddOne

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They implied it was to the chief, but I'm have a feeling it was to the Didact. She can't have gone that rampant in the first game of 3...
Also the part of the scene where she yells seems to be on in a ship, I guess the Infinity. That would seem logical that she is yelling at the Didact in that scene.
 

monome

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Dat fileshare.

Dat Hentais. Can't wait to see how the Composer has its way(s?!) with her.

Also the part of the scene where she yells seems to be on in a ship, I guess the Infinity. That would seem logical that she is yelling at the Didact in that scene.

Care to explore your thoughts?
I, for one, support the idea that rampancy makes her somewhat angry at (other?) people keeping on living, and thus would make here feel she's abandonned once the peole around her are trying to leave the place and thus save their lives/ the Universe while she's stuck with no solution to her impending death.
Thus the Chief vs Cortana situation, where Chief has to choose between following the "mission" or engaging in a seemingly impossible rescue (because AIs are short lived and that's the way it is, no matter how much you care for them).
Saving Cortana cannot be a goal, since it's not possible. It's only through the lenses of the extended fiction that it may be possible, probably at a cost; that's what makes the story great.
The fiction makes us know more than the Chief, while the game will "restrict" us to what He can achieve, putting pressure on helping him go beyond what is deemed possible = Hero.

Again, it's 343i words that Halo 4 will be emotionnal and engaging, what are you guys sensible to when it comes to Death, Duty and the "miracles" of life? That 343i creates a great fiction around our fears/joys is more important to them, I hope, than cutting a trailer so we don't know who the great-assed Cortana is talking to.
 
Yep, nothing rosy in a Universe where God is a tentacled mind-thing Scorpion.

QETTz.gif

Man, I love the IT Crowd
 

TheOddOne

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Care to explore your thoughts?
I, for one, supports the idea that rampancy makes her somewhat angry at (other?) people keeping on living, and thus would make here feel she's abandonned once the peole around her are trying to leave the place and thus save their lives/ the Universe while she's stuck with no solution to her impending death.
I highly doubt that Chief would leave Cortana on Requiem, even in her rampancy state. Not letting the Didact escape seems more logical here, because they found him kind of on accident and they don’t know where he might go.
 

Shadders

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I expect The Composer will throw Cortana a lifeline. He must know a way to extend her life, right?

Cortana is too big a part of the series to be under real threat in Halo 4.

She dies in Halo 6, you can count on it.
 

monome

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QETTz.gif

Man, I love the IT Crowd

Oh God, I can't laugh in an open space office, yet...

I highly doubt that Chief would leave Cortana on Requiem, even in her rampancy state. Not letting the Didact escape seems more logical here, because they found him kind of on accident and they don’t know where he might go.

Yes, my phrasing was confusing, I meant leaving her to her shit. That said, it's pretty clever to make leaving the planet both a necessity and an impossible task, and having Cortana's duality through rampancy fight for both.

And the Cryptum flies, captures giant ships, controls emerging from nowhere AIs yet can't leave Requiem? maybe, but it sucks.

I expect The Composer will throw Cortana a lifeline. He must know a way to extend her life, right?

Cortana is too big a part of the series to be under real threat in Halo 4.

She dies in Halo 6, you can count on it.
I expect neither the Chief nor Cortana to truly ever die, and suspect Bear could find a way to make them simply vanish from further Halo stories (until better times) and thus fuel future Halo stories with a major mystery.
 
I expect The Composer will throw Cortana a lifeline. He must know a way to extend her life, right?

Cortana is too big a part of the series to be under real threat in Halo 4.

She dies in Halo 6, you can count on it.

I've thought this from the start
since the new trilogy was announced

And the Cryptum flies, captures giant ships, controls emerging from nowhere AIs yet can't leave Requiem? maybe, but it sucks.
I don't think it's a capability/inability to leave, but maybe something is holding him back. Some kind of powerful Forerunner tech.
 

monome

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I don't think it's a capability/inability to leave, but maybe something is holding him back. Some kind of powerful Forerunner tech.

Reclaimer meets Cryptum, Cryptum opens, shit ensues.
Maybe the third book from Bear will tell us the story on how the Didact ended up again in a Crytpum. But I would think he's in control before the halos fire and why would he set barriers to himself?
 

monome

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Even better material for hentais.
Now I can think of Cortana having her way with The Chief.

Cortana's destiny is fullfilled as being the ultimate creation of the Precursors who only started to mingle with humans/Forerunners so that, they, not the Precurosrs, bring something unique to the galaxy, both material and immaterial yet wiser and more ferocious than the Precursors could devise alone (we know they are not satisfied with their previous creations, and the Flood would surely look gross for a Race who devised the refined Forerunners).

The Chief is the ultimate champion of Life through Chaos, the sparkle the Precursors could neither conceive nor predict or control, the man whose Chance is the manifestation of Gods beyond the material realm.

Chief wins. Life wins. Chaos ensues. God smiles.

Bah, I'd rahter get a porn movie with Cortana than fight her as a Boss (Halo 4 final boss is Cortana while she's controlled by Composer).
 

Arnie

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Just watched the live action trailer again, but does anyone get the feeling the Infinity landing on Requiem wasn't an accident? That the UNSC high brass may've planned it? It's not as if they're morally above that, considering what we already know about them.
 
All good Halo games should end with something big blowing up. We know Requiem doesn't get destroyed (Spartan Ops takes place there). Maybe Installation 07, or Hakkor? lol
 
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