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[Franklinator]

If we have 2 kyles, do they cancel each other out?

It would be a double negative.

Booooo lame joke

Also, Kyle is funny and generally right, while this new fella just wants to be like him when he grows up.

 

[squidhands]

I really hope increasing the movement speed doesn't cause ice-skating, seeing as how the default movement speed looks terribly slow. Default Halo speed has gotten pretty damn slow over the past few games, and I was really hoping it would be bumped up for 4, but that doesn't appear to be the case.


http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/06/e3-2012-halo-4s-war-games-is-gunning-for-call-of-duty/

"Spawning in and pushing the right stick forward for the first time — particularly coming off a recent Halo: Reach party — we felt the game was noticeably slower, more deliberate, almost plodding at times. You just don’t get the same sense of speed. Even bumping up the sensitivity didn’t bring it back to Reach’s level. You still space-jump, but as a Spartan IV super soldier, you’re a few notches down the rung from the Master Chief, and you don’t move like him. You go at the speed of a human marine crossing a bombed-out ruin … a la Call of Duty."

No wonder they couldn't move fast; movement has always been on the left stick, aiming on the right. He even mentions that sprint is engaged by the left stick.

That article was by people who actually played it.

Was it? They talk about bumping up the controller sensitivity in the hopes that it would somehow make movement speed faster. I call bullshit, or at least the author was looking over the shoulder of someone else who was really playing it.

 

[Risen]

You have an odd definition of "super fast."

Sure, people are sprinting around everywhere, but that doesn't make the game fast paced,

lol stop it

 

[Fracas]

...So now you can endlessly stay in scope with a radar while using active camo.

Totally feels like Halo.


edit: And yeah Franklinator, I agree, kyle's right a lot of the time, just making a lame joke lol

 

[Ajemsuhgao]

Man, I dunno what to believe, haha! Who was it that reported getting unscoped when shot in the first place? Are they playing two different gametypes or something? Oh shit, what if it's a support perk or whatever?

Edit : Oh wait, read it wrong. :-

I'm in the next group to go play. I'll test this. Anyone got anything they want confirmation.on?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Hooray for not getting knocked out of scope. The whole big team issue that was brought up last OT was spot on. At range, you have no change to recover if shot and no cover is present.

Of course, the sniper should still be knocked out for balancing.

I'm in the next group to go play. I'll test this. Anyone got anything they want confirmation.on?

Shoot your team, see if they die. If they don't ask the 343 folks if it's just for the E3 demo.

 

[daedalius]

...So now you can endlessly stay in scope with a radar while using active camo.

Totally feels like Halo.


edit: And yeah Franklinator, I agree, kyle's right a lot of the time, just making a lame joke lol

Hopefully there is a map just like Hemo/Renegade where that works really well.

 

[Woorloog]

Yeah right, Woorloog

Ah, someone knew the joke. Though i probably shouldn't be so surprised, it is after all more or less English-speaker-exclusive joke.

...

Can't think of anything to say. Compare speedtests?

 

[Tunavi]

lttp but have you guys tried this?

its ridiculously cheap for how strong it is and it tastes pretty good too

 

[TS x Massacre]

Also, incoming meltdown times 2. I can't wait for the sparkcast where they tell us why.

Yeah, what is this I dont even. I agree with above you, it should be a 'perk'.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Good games Hyper.

How are you today?

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

I know we were focusing on the movement speed part of that article, but

And once you dial into how your Spartan IV moves, what they do, what they don’t do, the noticeably thicker report of the guns, and the triumphant return of the overpowered Magnum, it’s absolutely and completely Halo… done differently.

Huh?

 

[MrGreencastle]

Hooray for not getting knocked out of scope. The whole big team issue that was brought up last OT was spot on. At range, you have no change to recover if shot and no cover is present.

Of course, the sniper should still be knocked out for balancing.





Shoot your team, see if they die. If they don't ask the 343 folks if it's just for the E3 demo.

I agree. At least make it a support upgrade - it seems like such a standard nuance that I'm used to, not sure how it will feel playing with it off. That's actually kind of cool depending on the situation.

I know we were focusing on the movement speed part of that article, but

http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/06/e3-2012-halo-4s-war-games-is-gunning-for-call-of-duty/

Huh?

I don't know what the hell they're talking about. The magnum is 6 shot...

do you really think they're going to address it in?

Beli343.

 

[Poker Face]

Also, incoming meltdown times 2. I can't wait for the sparkcast where they tell us why.

do you really think they're going to address it in?

 

[Overdoziz]

lttp but have you guys tried this?

its ridiculously cheap for how strong it is and it tastes pretty good too

Why would you drink beer/lager out of a can?

 

[Steelyuhas]

Was just about to post that lol.

I know we were focusing on the movement speed part of that article, but

http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/06/e3-2012-halo-4s-war-games-is-gunning-for-call-of-duty/

Huh?

Uh, yeah what?

"We're making it where you can now be in scope and have a radar at the same time, all while being invisible. If someone hits you, you don't even get taken out of scope!"

"Uh, how do you balance this? It feels a little overpowered."

"........"

haha

 

[Fracas]

"We're making it where you can now be in scope and have a radar at the same time, all while being invisible. If someone hits you, you don't even get taken out of scope!"

"Uh, how do you balance this? It feels a little overpowered."

"........"

 

[Overdoziz]

"We're making it where you can now be in scope and have a radar at the same time, all while being invisible. If someone hits you, you don't even get taken out of scope!"

"Uh, how do you balance this? It feels a little overpowered."

"........"

<gif>

"It's insanely powerful, I love it!"

 

[Hypertrooper]

Good games Hyper.

Yeah thanks bro for helping out. Thanks for asking the question!

 

[Plywood]

Stop being such a Big Show.

Spoiler

Only Plywood will get that.

 

[thezerofire]

that venturebeat article reads like a load of bullshit. It sounds like they just made everything up.

 

[Poker Face]

No wonder they couldn't move fast; movement has always been on the left stick, aiming on the right. He even mentions that sprint is engaged by the left stick.

Was it? They talk about bumping up the controller sensitivity in the hopes that it would somehow make movement speed faster. I call bullshit, or at least the author was looking over the shoulder of someone else who was really playing it.

that venturebeat article reads like a load of bullshit. It sounds like they just made everything up.

 

[MrGreencastle]

"We're making it where you can now be in scope and have a radar at the same time, all while being invisible. If someone hits you, you don't even get taken out of scope!"

"Uh, how do you balance this? It feels a little overpowered."

"........"

Easy to balance: Once you scope in, you can never scope out.

 

[kittens]

I'm in the next group to go play. I'll test this. Anyone got anything they want confirmation.on?

Cool, thanks! Could you also check to see if thrusters are multi-directional?

 

[Fracas]

"It's insanely powerful, I love it!"

"This is so awesome! There's no way anybody could abuse any of this!"

 

[Ken]

Easy to balance: Once you scope in, you can never scope out.

Once you scope in you can only zoom in again and again.

 

[Poker Face]

I'm in the next group to go play. I'll test this. Anyone got anything they want confirmation.on?

ask why you don't get hit out of scope!

pay attention to default movement speed, see if it feels slow

thanks

 

[BigShow36]

Easy to balance: Once you scope in, you can never scope out.

SCOPE OUT -500 SP

 

[Xand]

How are you today?

Fine. Get back on baw.

 

[Steelyuhas]

SCOPE OUT -500 SP

SHIP IT

 

[Fracas]

I know I'm hyperbolic quite often, but seriously, not being unscoped when shot is incredibly weak.

edit: I will also say that I'm not even sure if I want much more official MP info. Each time more news drops, I get more worried, lol.

Still very much hyped for campaign. Kind of indifferent on Spartan Ops.

 

[RebornYeti]

I am completely fine with not getting knocked out of scope when shot.

 

[789shadow]

And now I'm back to "Thank god they fucking fixed that shit." Getting unscoped is no longer tolerable since the introduction of the DMR.

But there had better be something on the Sniper, because that needs unscoping.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Easy to balance: Once you scope in, you can never scope out.

Scope must cooldown from being utilized before it can be deactivated

BALANCED

 

[kittens]

I know I'm hyperbolic quite often, but seriously, not being unscoped when shot is incredibly weak.

You know Halo has gone to the dogs when they start taking design advice from Shadow, haha. I always gave him shit for the idea, but now he has his vengeance.

Edit : Yup, there he is, championing the decision, haha.

 

[ElzarTheBam]

Fine. Get back on baw.

Making food, George Foreman style, soon my pretty.

 

[Overdoziz]

And now I'm back to "Thank god they fucking fixed that shit." Getting unscoped is no longer tolerable since the introduction of the DMR.

For BTB getting kicked out may have been a problem but it definitely wasn't in 4v4.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Scope must cooldown from being utilized before it can be deactivated

BALANCED

If the scope itself gets shot, you scope out.

BALANCED

 

[789shadow]

For BTB getting kicked out may have been a problem but it definitely wasn't in 4v4.

It was in the larger maps where you could be put into situations where the only option other than take cover or die was to shoot back with the DMR, and the DMR itself made that impossible.

 

[Blinding]

For BTB getting kicked out may have been a problem but it definitely wasn't in 4v4.

Pretty much. It may be great for BTB, but it's going to be horrible for playlists with smaller teams on smaller maps.

 

[Fracas]

And now I'm back to "Thank god they fucking fixed that shit." Getting unscoped is no longer tolerable since the introduction of the DMR.

But there had better be something on the Sniper, because that needs unscoping.

If Reach's BTB maps weren't designed so poorly, it wouldn't have even been a problem. They all sucked because none of them provided adequate cover for infantry. People on foot had to stick to the sides, lest they become sniper bait or get caught in the vehicle crossfire.

You know Halo has gone to the dogs when they start taking design advice from Shadow, haha. I always gave him shit for the idea, but now he has his vengeance.

Don't hire shadow! lol

 

[Kibbles]

Yeah, and even the pros said it was fast.

I'm so confused.

We'll see tomorrow at MLG.TV at noon

Great we are forced to watch it on MLG's shitty player.

 

[Zoso Achilles]

Not getting knocked out of scope should absolutely not be a perk. I would hate it if taking damage doesn't take you out of scope anymore, but it needs to be one way or the other. I don't want to be shooting someone and have no idea if I'm taking them out of scope or not, that just adds unneeded randomness to encounters.

 

[BigShow36]

If Reach's BTB maps weren't designed so poorly, it wouldn't have even been a problem.

And if the DMR was actually difficult to use and people had an effective strafe to avoid shots.

 

[789shadow]

Pretty much. It may be great for BTB, but it's going to be horrible for playlists with smaller teams on smaller maps.

In these situations you wouldn't be using the scope anyway.

 

[Retro]

Could be that getting kicked out of zoom is normal and there's some kind of Specialization that enables you to shrug off a limited amount of damage before being unscoped?

 

[blamite]

If the scope itself gets shot, you scope out.

BALANCED

If the scope gets shot it breaks and can never be used again by anyone.

Also the weapons you use are recycled over each simulation so eventually every sniper on the Infinity will have a broken scope.

 

[Fracas]

And if the DMR was actually difficult to use and people had an effective strafe to avoid shots.

You're onto something, 'lil kylej.

I kid, I kid.

 

[Blinding]

In these situations you wouldn't be using the scope anyway.

Yes you would, or have you never played anything outside of BTB?