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ElzarTheBam
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That is an excellent way to put it.
It's basically the stuff that is actually related to Halo.
TS x Massacre
Member
From the Q&A
I'm not sure whether to be pleased or displeased, I WANT to beli343 that it will have something to do with skill, but then Reach's matchmaking happened and I got scarred.
EDIT: Overall, very pleased with the Q&A and can't wait for H4.. why does November have to be so far away?
I'm not sure whether to be pleased or displeased, I WANT to beli343 that it will have something to do with skill, but then Reach's matchmaking happened and I got scarred.
EDIT: Overall, very pleased with the Q&A and can't wait for H4.. why does November have to be so far away?
StalkerUKCG
Banned
So none of your posts? I'm okay with this
Franklinator
Member
Maybe for you.
Lets say this game ships late 2013 early 2014 (being optimistic) If Halo 4 does not go full reachthen its still going to be Very active around that time period.you never go full reach
Top 5 XBL games easy (reach currently sits a 6).
The very last thing any company wants to do is have the player base split across 2 games like that.
And honestly IMO the CE map pack for Reach was great id gladly take a Halo 2 Map pack for Halo 4 providing it ends up being a fun game. Having 2 "current" halo titles is not something i want to do and launching another MP title that close to the launch of the last game kind of undermines all the work that would of been put in.
TLR Split player base sucks, Halo 2 MP is broke, Halo 2 Map pack is more likely and frankly preferable.
Agreed, although I would like it to have multi. There's not a chance of Microsoft releasing a competing Halo game to compete with Halo 4. It wouldn't make any sense, haha.
If they included Halo 2 multiplayer, but you could play it offline/LAN only, that would be awesome.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, there's no way it's happening.
Eh, I love Battle Canyon as much as Beaver Creek. Good remakes are possible.
Poker Face
Member
Maybe for you.
Lets say this game ships late 2013 early 2014 (being optimistic) If Halo 4 does not go full reachthen its still going to be Very active around that time period.you never go full reach
Top 5 XBL games easy (reach currently sits a 6).
The very last thing any company wants to do is have the player base split across 2 games like that.
And honestly IMO the CE map pack for Reach was great id gladly take a Halo 2 Map pack for Halo 4 providing it ends up being a fun game. Having 2 "current" halo titles is not something i want to do and launching another MP title that close to the launch of the last game kind of undermines all the work that would of been put in.
TL
343: We don't want to split the fanbase.
Splits fanbase with playlists.
Why?
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Across playlists is much better than across games.
yep this is the reason I don't want remakes in Halo games which have a totally different settings
Mister Negative
Member
Maybe for you.
Lets say this game ships late 2013 early 2014 (being optimistic) If Halo 4 does not go full reachthen its still going to be Very active around that time period.you never go full reach
Top 5 XBL games easy (reach currently sits a 6).
The very last thing any company wants to do is have the player base split across 2 games like that.
And honestly IMO the CE map pack for Reach was great id gladly take a Halo 2 Map pack for Halo 4 providing it ends up being a fun game. Having 2 "current" halo titles is not something i want to do and launching another MP title that close to the launch of the last game kind of undermines all the work that would of been put in.
TL
There'd have to be an anniversary gametype. Vanilla Halo 4 would never work on Halo 2 maps. Can you imagine sprint on lockout?
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kittens
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I don't think they'll want to take players away from Halo 4 MP. It would be a blow to the momentum they're trying to build and carry forward into Halo 5 and 6.
Steelyuhas
Member
Maybe for you.
Lets say this game ships late 2013 early 2014 (being optimistic) If Halo 4 does not go full reachthen its still going to be Very active around that time period.you never go full reach
Top 5 XBL games easy (reach currently sits a 6).
The very last thing any company wants to do is have the player base split across 2 games like that.
And honestly IMO the CE map pack for Reach was great id gladly take a Halo 2 Map pack for Halo 4 providing it ends up being a fun game. Having 2 "current" halo titles is not something i want to do and launching another MP title that close to the launch of the last game kind of undermines all the work that would of been put in.
TL
That said, I have no interest in a Halo 2 remake because they won't do multiplayer. The only thing that might be cool is if they wanted to a re-skinned campaign, release that as a $15 downloadable game for Xbox
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Oh absolutely. Im curious is sprint can be disabled in Halo 4 via custom options, my guess is yes.
Anniversary gametype would be fine, In fact it probably what the "classic" gametype is that 343 has alluded to. No sprint, Set Loadout(s), 3Sec Spawns ect
What if they just add a hardcore playlist like they did with Halo Anniversary map pack? Only BR + no sprint + fast movement.
It'd be sweet if they did strictly only campaign or only multiplayer, then released it as an Arcade title.
As much fun as Halo 2's multiplayer was, I can't see them doing it and separating the Halo 4 population. The campaign was great as well, but it's definitely not as memorable as Halo CE's.
I'd rather them come out with something like ODST, something related but totally different. If it does happen, it's only a matter of time until Halo 3 Anniversary comes out.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
That is the likely scenario in this case. Its a much better alternative if you ask me.
For the record while I rank Halo 2 as the lowest id easily replay it in HD with a makeover like CE
Mister Negative
Member
The problem, then, lies in the fact that those maps would be more or less useless in the regular playlists. Which is kind of stupid.
I hope there isn't a Halo 2 remake. I don't want Halo to become like Pokemon where every generation we're re-playing a game from 2 generations ago. It makes no sense.
I don't want a Halo 2 map pack either. As much as I love those old maps, it's time for some new maps that are actually good. I think Reach had maybe two good maps and that's just not acceptable.
I don't want a Halo 2 map pack either. As much as I love those old maps, it's time for some new maps that are actually good. I think Reach had maybe two good maps and that's just not acceptable.
Mister Negative
Member
I'll agree there. Let's stop relying on trying to shoehorn new game mechanics onto classic maps, and actually come up with some good ones that ship with the game.
TS x Massacre
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As much as I loved Halo 2, I fucking LOVED it, it was my favorite game of all time hands down... I agree.
We need new content, WoW is currently recycling content and that's not working out well for them either. People want the new shininess subconsciously
Or allow the game to evolve without totally breaking it.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I don't really care about getting a remade H2 campaign, either. Just re-release it on XBLA without the ghosting glitch, and call it a day.
And yeah, after the awesomeness of ODST, I'd love to see 343 make a Halo 4 side story. But maybe that's what future Spartan Ops seasons will be?
Steelyuhas
Member
7 Power weapons.
7.
Battle Canyon would be fantastic without that egregious mistake though, it's too bad there isn't 4v4 objective in Reach either. 5v5 is awful on maps like this one.
Mister Negative
Member
I've always hated the way MC held the BR in Halo 2. It just didn't SEEM right.
xxjuicesxx
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I didnt care much for CE Anniversary, I was falling asleep by the end of that campaign. Game was a steaming turd mixed with hot wet garbage.
I think I would like to play H2 with the new graphics and such though. I think cause thats when I hopped onto Halo and that is Halo to me.
Its like a timing thing, people like what Halo was to them. Then they dont want change after that.
I think I would like to play H2 with the new graphics and such though. I think cause thats when I hopped onto Halo and that is Halo to me.
Its like a timing thing, people like what Halo was to them. Then they dont want change after that.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Smaller maps are much more likely to get screwed over by this than the larger ones. For the most part maps like Coagulation and Waterworks could be put into regular playlists without too many issues if any.
Where as midship,lockout and foundation are going to be broken for infinity slayer due to the size.
I suppose its all down to how 343 handle the issue and the track record is not good for this kind of thing.
I figure even though infinity slayer is the primary mode for H4 its well within reason to assume 343 have play tested various classic variations that strip halo back to its core mechanics and we will certainly see some type of hopper involving it in matchmaking at some point.
They have to factor in the possibility infinity slayer goes tits up and is hated and people want classic style halo back and i doubt they are going to want to patch that in like they had to try and do with reach.
Your CE:A stream was a good watch, It was nice to see the issue's someone fresh to the game had.
Evolve?
Good one.
Talk to them. Send PMs
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, putting seven power weapons on the map was a terrible decision. But the map itself is still great... Except for Jetpack, per usual.
I'm pretty sure bs angel posted in a bulletin that there will be a classic hopper on launch.
Have done. Waiting on replies from opposing team captain.
Mister Negative
Member
RIP Infinity Slayer
It seems that way. If the first season's successful, it looks like they'll pull he trigger for more season, probably for a few hundred MS points.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Yeah if true i can see myself spending the majority of my time in that playlist.
I like the idea of having alternate slayer types as a way to break the fatigue of slayer after slayer game.
Reach does this wrong because it fucks around with how the weapon behave.
ElzarTheBam
Member
It will be interesting to see the population on that.
Especially during the launch week.
HaloGAF + 2 other people.
dangerbyrnes
Member
Am I the only one who thinks halo 2's campaign is the best? if they make a halo 2 anniversary i would buy it for the campaign alone. plus the campaign needs to be fixed for the xbox 360 anyway. with the ghosting problem it's almost unplayable.
Mister Negative
Member
I see myself trying out infinity for funsies/achievements but for all my serious halo playin' I'd definitely head to the classic hopper.
Well, we can still play TS.
thezerofire
Banned
I wouldn't put away Infinity Slayer that quickly. It must test pretty well and be pretty fun if it's still in versus traditional slayer. I think it'll probably be worth a shot
The Henery
Member
I would be surprised actually. We're hearing that Forge has been improved, MM has been improved, Spec Op's is an evolution of Firefight etc. For them to dump Reach's (in one case retrograde) Theatre into Halo 4, unchanged, would be curious.
I also don't think party viewing is an uber-fringe feature. Only losers go to the cinema alone; you're supposed to go with a group of friends
Steelyuhas
Member
Let's not kid ourselves, we all know any "classic" hoppers will be a ghost town.
ElzarTheBam
Member
I would be surprised actually. We're hearing that Forge has been improved, MM has been improved, Spec Op's is an evolution of Firefight etc. For them to dump Reach's (in one case retrograde) Theatre into Halo 4, unchanged, would be curious.
I also don't think party viewing is an uber-fringe feature. Only losers go to the cinema alone; you're supposed to go with a group of friends.
Henery, check your messages!
Eventually, yes.
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