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Halo |OT7| You may leave, Juices. And take Team Downer with you.
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Blah Blah Blah Random tomahawks and poor knife detection.
Killstreaks not adding up took all the fun away.
Dogs were bullshit in World at War, Really Nobsy, Really!
LOL
ODST bitch
squidhands
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Not in the slightest.
4 player FF is no fun at all with randoms, but Doubles is where it's at when you want to go in solo. You get the odd asshat who like to vote for 2x Score Attack at the last second, but my experiences with Doubles has always been as much fun as I can expect with Reach's Firefight.
Portugeezer
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Just give your opinion when you do post stuff, that way you avoid the bullshit and just re-ignite a conversation.
don't read any of the replies either.
At the top levels of play chess is basically adhering to a strategy. The game has been played so much literally every possible gambit, skewer, and move has been done and codified. The only interesting thing to me about chess is playing it myself, since I'm not that good, and watching how fast pros can do it.
Video games by their nature allow more flexibility because you're not limited to X number of two-dimensional moves. Still, at some point people are going to find an old game not as interesting.
So yes, if chess were on the MLG poll I'd laugh too, same as I do to those who still cling to Brood War.
Finally broke half a Million pre orders go Halo!
Why is Blops on the chart twice?
Hydranockz
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We started moving at 1pm yesterday. The new place is a block and a half from the old place.
We just finished bringing over the last significant piece of stuff to be moved in a bag. We totally underestimated how long it'd take for two of us to walk stuff back and forth :lol
My quads are about to go all HHH on me.
Dat gonna be lockstep
We just finished bringing over the last significant piece of stuff to be moved in a bag. We totally underestimated how long it'd take for two of us to walk stuff back and forth :lol
My quads are about to go all HHH on me.
Dat gonna be lockstep
Ain't it just. I hate having to explain that they make up numbers to people. Glad to see they're verboten here.
What does that mean again? Did they say anything about the SpOps netcode?
Maybe you can explain, but why does Halo 3 and ODST lockstep not feel as bad as Reach lockstep? Reach's is awful almost everytime I try to play it, whereas Halo 3 and ODST only felt bad when I was trying to go overseas.
The thing about lockstep is it's straight up luck of the draw, and is VERY sensitive to network conditions, since it's essentially brute-force networking.
Things that can determine your input lag in lockstep:
- Wireless internet versus wired
- How many network hops between all players cumulatively
- Open or closed NAT
- Bandwidth congestion (someone else downloading or torrenting)
- Ping, cumulative between all players (this is the thing that really makes or breaks lockstep)
All I know is in one of the Bungie podcasts, they said Reach's netcode takes up significantly less bandwidth than Halo 3. I'll play it safe and say it was a 40% reduction, although I might have heard 60%. The ability to have someone drop out wouldn't add any noticable lag, you're still just networking buttons and they were still using Halo 3's netcode for that, which was their first successful attempt at campaign networking. (They tried it for Halo 2, but it had to be pulled)
I've had awesome Reach sessions, and Reach sessions with 3 second delays on input. Same with ODST. It's all in the environmental variables. I'd go into the tradeoffs between lockstep and asynch if you're interested, but I do need to go and clean the kitchen in the old apartment :lol
People truly love Halo.
Gabotron ES
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On the network subject, MTW confirmed the auto-sentry to be available at MP, I thought Halo's MP netcode didn't allow for AI's.
Did they just went full wizard mode or what?
I doubt it's true AI. It's probably something like the eye on Cold Storage. Just targets the closest biped to it.
Enjoying this discussion but be back in a bit.
Full on Wizard mode. Frankie is Merlin Confirmed.
ellis is harry potter confirmed
Same with Sandbox as well.
Halo 3 had turrets with (very simple) AI on Snowbound.
Gabotron ES
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Still surprised they haven't talked about the netcode yet, should we assume it's as shitty as Reach's one?
Spartan Ops sounds great and I'm pretty excited about it but if they fail nail the basics then, what's the point?
:/
Dedicated servers.
Dedicated servers.
Halo obviously hasn't made enough money to afford dedicated servers.
/sarcasm
_Computer_
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343 said the Halo 4 net code is silky smooth.
Bungie and some pros also said Reach was the best Halo yet before it was released.
And I believe them, especially when they've had many a people fly out and play the game... on LAN.
OverHeat
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In bill we thrust.
_Computer_
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He didn't inhale.
"She blew him for 3 months, the least he could do was give her a recommendation"
-Chris Rock
Blue Ninja
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lolno
I don't know how network tests are handled at Microsoft, but they could let participate foreigners from all over the world or in those countries where people play lots of Halo.
You can't be serious and say netcode is "silky smooth" and only do tests in the USA.
However, if it was global network testing and it is really "silky smooth", then I'm totally okay with it.
The code itself is smooth. They said nothing about latency, packet loss, connectivity and so on....
I have no idea when written code is categorized as smooth though.
_Computer_
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Cisco Networking 101. Tell customer the net code is "silky smooth". Sold.
what about the customer?
the customer is always wrong.
Code is called good (or silky smooth), when the compute and the storage investment is at a minimum. Learned that in my previous semester in computer science.
Zoso Achilles
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I really hope they nail it with the spartan ops netcode. Nothing is worse than trying to play firefight with over a second of input lag, it really just kills the mood. I'm not sure how feasible that is with so many external factors weighing in, but hey, beli343.
Oh cool, I'm 11 posts away from member status. I can probably get that today if I wanna be an annoying prick lol
Oh cool, I'm 11 posts away from member status. I can probably get that today if I wanna be an annoying prick lol
Code is called good (or silky smooth), when the compute and the storage investment is at a minimum. Learned that in my previous semester in computer science.
The joke works better without explanations.
User 73706
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Same with Sandbox; they just compensate by giving them ridiculously high damage and have them all cover overlapping areas to make it easier for them to land shots; when you go in one of the corners and have two Sandbox guardian turrets shooting at you, you know you're fucked. It's actually pretty easy to dodge shots as a monitor; just strafe around in elliptical motions and spam your elevation buttons. They'll probably still kill you after a while, but they're meant to handle bigger, slower-moving targets.
I actually remember a game back in Halo 3 called No Man's Land where you had enough shields/health to take four or five shots from the Snowbound turrets, which is good because the entire map took place in the out-of-bounds area. You could still kill people pretty easily (instakill shotties) but everyone kept rushing the middle because there was an Overshield and that was the only way to heal yourself.
Hypertrooper
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Which joke?
They are not going to let that happen. Especially since they are hyping SpOps.
And have fun with TDKR. In my opinion it is not a great movie.
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