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[Havok]

You can't enlist in any Specializations until you've gotten all the way to level 50. This is end-game content.

So people who play the game a ton have an inherent advantage over those that don't? This is one of those things that modern military games do that I very much disagree with. I guess it'll come down to how matchmaking works out, but I could see it becoming a serious issue with the current Inheritor/Warrant Officer matchups.

In a bar fight with a redneck, don't give the UFC fighter brass knuckles. He's already the better fighter in this matchup and has spent more time at the activity.

 

[TS x Massacre]

That's simply not correct. That mod has no effect on firing from the hip. Only when you're zoomed in.

This is why you guys give us the info, not news outlets, since you guys know YOUR game best.

 

[NullPointer]

OK, who farted?

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Wait... so people who spend more money in buying H4 will get a immediate advantage over others? Fairness.

No, Did you even read it. These cannot be used until Max Rank. Preordering allows you to select any specialization to enlist in at Max Rank where as the people who didnt preorder will have to wait till they are unlocked (by spartan ops weeks maybe?)

 

[Talents]

You'll hit the top rank immediately? Wow!

Well if it's as easy as H3, then yeah, in a few days of it being released.

 

[Domino Theory]

So is the loadout set up like this now?

Primary
Secondary
Grenade
Armor Ability
Support mod
Tactical mod
Specialization mod (once reached max rank)

 

[Enfinit]

I have a feeling the Stability mod is going to be really, really irritating in the hands of a decent sniper.

 

[a zoojoo]

Just realized LouWu is in the wrap up vid.

Dibs.

 

[Abdozer]

So... I don't get it, are the Specializations are shown on your armor? Or are the armors there to show the new looks?

 

[FyreWulff]

No, Did you even read it. These cannot be used until Max Rank. Preordering allows you to select any specialization to enlist in at Max Rank where as the people who didnt preorder will have to wait till they are unlocked (by spartan ops weeks maybe?)

Then I guess the question that would raise is can you even hit max rank before 343 unlocks the other specializations.

If you can, that would seem to indicate no more credit / exp cap.

 

[Hypertrooper]

If this is end-game content, the matchmaking must work. I want to see it in action. I will not judge until I play with and against people.

 

[GhaleonEB]

When reviewing saved films, will we be able to see the full load out, including specializations, players have selected? Teams that coordinate these abilities well will have an advantage against those who do not. Will reviewing saved films help players see this coordination?

This is important.

So is the loadout set up like this now?

Primary
Secondary
Grenade
Armor Ability
Support mod
Tactical mod
Specialization mod (once reached max rank)

Edit: answered by David.

I have some adjectives in mind, but I'm going to drive home to rethink using them.

 

[Tashi]

So the ones that interest me at this moment are

Wetworks
Engineer
and Tracker

 

[Shadders]

So how long does it take to get to level 50? Are casual players even going to see this content?

 

[Hydranockz]

Well if it's as easy as H3, then yeah, in a few days of it being released.

But you know for a fact it isn't like Halo 3's.

 

[Noricart]

Eh, I can see Specializations working very well in Infinity Doubles, or games with small teams/objective. But we still need more Direct-Feed. 5 matches plz.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

You say level 50?

Juices!! You can come down off the ledge now!!

Tell you what, these specializations do sound pretty cool. I like the idea of having a team with different specialization combos and each member being very good at a certain playstyle. I like it.

Its obviously an experience based 50. If anything this proves Halo wont have a ranking system. Just "invisible" trueskill. And what do we know about Invisible things? They got no code behind em!

 

[lybertyboy]

The mods talked about in the article are just armor mods, not some new class of loadout option.

 

[BigShow36]

So is the loadout set up like this now?

Primary
Secondary
Grenade
Armor Ability
Support mod
Tactical mod
Specialization mod (once reached max rank)

Actually, they recently switched it to have a revolutionary new class system they like to call "Pick 10 Spartan Things." Instead of having slots for different things, you just have 10 slots that can be used for anything. Its revolutionary and totally unique to Halo.

Feels Like Halo™

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Lvl 50 is most likely a XP level and not an actual Ranking system.

 

[kylej]

hrm specializations and armor abilities. Well with 10x the variables of Reach, at least we know the game will be beautifully balanced

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Well if it's as easy as H3, then yeah, in a few days of it being released.

Or if it's like Reach, I still have yet to get there.

I assume it's somewhere in between.

 

[Fracas]

Each time I max out my rank, do I get to keep all my specializations?

 

[Arnie]

The mods talked about in the article are just armor mods, not some new class of loadout option.

What's the difference?

Are they essentially perks?

 

[TS x Massacre]

The mods talked about in the article are just armor mods, not some new class of loadout option.

I'm slightly confused, and I apologize for the confusion, but...

Does this mean you need that specific armor equipped to get the benefit?

 

[nillapuddin]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

blah blah what about MJOLNIR Mark V? blah blah “I will say that if you’re a fan of nostalgia, we’ve definitely included some options that will scratch that particular itch" - David-motherfuckinmakinmej-Ellis,

MEGATON

Spoiler

for me

thank goodness all my Mk V tears were for not

 

[Tawpgun]

For clarification, you don't need to wear the armor to get access to these things right?

 

[KraZeR]

Don't worry still plays like halo - Frankie

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Pretty Visor.

 

[Shadders]

Its obviously an experience based 50. If anything this proves Halo wont have a ranking system. Just "invisible" trueskill. And what do we know about Invisible things? They got no code behind em!

With no code behind them and nothing outward facing, does that mean they don't exist at all? Imagine if Reach actually had no skill system whatsoever and it was all a big game of emperor's new clothes.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Hopefully all this garbage is just in Infinity Slayer right?

With no code behind them and nothing outward facing, does that mean they don't exist at all? Imagine if Reach actually had no skill system whatsoever and it was all a big game of emperor's new clothes.

Reach doesnt have a skill system anywhere except Arena...you really think Trueskill is in action in MM?

 

[Portugeezer]

That's simply not correct. That mod has no effect on firing from the hip. Only when you're zoomed in.

Thank fuck for that, fucking IGN bullshit.

 

[BigShow36]

Each time I max out my rank, do I get to keep all my specializations?

Let's stop pretending and make this easy so everyone understands what you're talking about; just call it Prestige Mode.

 

[Bsigg12]

Really enjoying the armor shown for the Tracker and Rogue specializations.

 

[bobs...onGaf]

No, Did you even read it. These cannot be used until Max Rank. Preordering allows you to select any specialization to enlist in at Max Rank where as the people who didnt preorder will have to wait till they are unlocked (by spartan ops weeks maybe?)

Edited this into my last post too late, but:

Even so the LE owners are going to have a HUGE advantage in the window of time between them being a high enough rank to use all 10 and that content being walled off.

Even after that period, when 'everyone' has access to all 10, newcomers are essentially screwed. I would hate to try and get into Halo 4 next year. If work is as busy as I think its going to be am I really going to have to go in and get killed by people who can see my last location? Oh lol.

 

[Enfinit]

So is the loadout set up like this now?

Primary
Secondary
Grenade
Armor Ability
Support mod
Tactical mod
Specialization mod (once reached max rank)

This is so confusing. We're still talking about Halo, right?

 

[KraZeR]

Its obviously an experience based 50. If anything this proves Halo wont have a ranking system. Just "invisible" trueskill. And what do we know about Invisible things? They got no code behind em!

This.

 

[Spawnling]

Hopefully all this garbage is just in Infinity Slayer right?

This this this!

 

[ZalinKrow]

All that armour looks soooo gooood ‹3

 

[User 73932]

The mods talked about in the article are just armor mods, not some new class of loadout option.

Just to clarify. These specializations will appear as tactical and support packages?

 

[cocamola]

I have a feeling the Stability mod is going to be really, really irritating in the hands of a decent sniper.

I'm going to destroy as a Rouge

 

[BigShow36]

If work is as busy as I think its going to be am I really going to have to go in and get killed by people who can see my last location? Oh lol.

But don't you remember how well that worked for Halo 3 1v1?


What a terrible mechanic.

 

[Noricart]

Hopefully all this garbage is just in Infinity Slayer right?

That isn't so much the problem as what they might put in Classic, especially ranked. (AR starts I'm callin' ya out!)

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Edited this into my last post too late, but:

Even so the LE owners are going to have a HUGE advantage in the window of time between them being a high enough rank to use all 10 and that content being walled off.

Even after that period, when 'everyone' has access to all 10, newcomers are essentially screwed. I would hate to try and get into Halo 4 next year. If work is as busy as I think its going to be am I really going to have to go in and get killed by people who can see my last location? Oh lol.

Eh these "perks" seems to have very little effect on actual gameplay. More like tweaks than Buffs.

 

[Garrett 2U]

What a poorly written article, we need more official write ups.

 

[Blissful]

The more information 343 releases, the more it becomes apparent that Halo has taken a COD approach in terms of multiplayer perks and specialization. Even the fuckin ranking system is the same as COD.

No wonder they never will answer the question of whether there will be a competitive ranking system or not because there wont be. Thats not how COD does it and it sells copies, so why should they? This is bullshit! 343 really needs to learn from Valve on how to bring competitive gaming back to the game.

 

[Talents]

Well if there isn't a good TruSkill system, level '50s' will be put against low level players like in Reach, so the lower players will have an even harder chance in winning.

 

[Hydranockz]

Ok maybe Ellis can confirm this.

Say we have 50 levels to progress through.

1
2 [Unlock Armor piece X]
3
...
49 [Unlock something Y]
50

So we get to 50. Then we can pick one of 8 classes to specialise in.

1 1 1 ...
2 2 2 ...
... ... ... ...
9 9 9 ...
10 10 10 ...

These last levels before the '60' will unlock armor pieces which have no effect on the player. The last unlock is an armor mod. Is this something that would appear below tactical package and support package in the Loadout menu and something that can be switched on the fly in the game?

 

[nillapuddin]

Does this mean you need that specific armor equipped to get the benefit?

I am hoping to god not, that is beyond bad.

I want to wear my Mk V, and use whatever the hell perks prestige mods runes powerup loadout i want

What a poorly written article, we need more official write ups.

tmrws bulletin

 

[L1NETT]

If you max out a specialization, do you back to level 1 and work all the way back up again? If so, do you lose all the benefits?

Confused.