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Halo |OT7| You may leave, Juices. And take Team Downer with you.

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nillapuddin

nillapuddin

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zap said:
In Halo 4, you could be facing a sniper using the Stability Mod AND Awareness Mod.
Boom, there go your two defenses against him/her.
Combine that with Active Camo , Ammo Upgrade and you have an insanely OP sniper!
AND they could get rewarded for these kills by receiving MORE snipers in ordnance drops!!
In Infinity Slayer
I'm just thinking of how terrible that is. :(
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It would be terrible

But heres the optimism train coming into station!!!!!!!!


...your example listed 3 mods,
you can only have 2

/optimism train tricycle

edit: damnit! im on a top-of-page rampage today
 
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zap

Member
monsterfracas said:
Just saw that on Twitter.

Holy moly campaign looks so good. I'm willing to slap down $60 for the campaign alone.
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That's the one thing that I am really hopeful about: At least campaign and SpOps will be worth the price of admission

nillapuddin said:
It would be terrible

But heres the optimism train coming into station!!!!!!!!


...your example listed 3 mods,
you can only have 2

/optimism train tricycle
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Where was it mentioned that you can only have two? I thought Armour Mods were different from Tactical and Support Packages, I may have missed it.
 
nillapuddin

nillapuddin

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double the photobomb now
 
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zap

Member
Domino Theory said:
That and the fact that the Ammo Upgrade mod only applies to starting ammo for your loadout weapons.
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Ah ok, that's slightly soothing. (I thought that I read that people had extra ammo in the sniper at Comic Con or E3).

So the Stability Mod is an Armour Mod through Specialisations.
The Awareness upgrade is a Support Package.

You can use them both concurrently, as well as a Tactical upgrade? i.e. Shield recharge rate increase, another primary weapon on spawn etc?
 
nillapuddin

nillapuddin

Member
zap said:
Ah ok, that's slightly soothing. (I thought that I read that people had extra ammo in the sniper at Comic Con or E3).
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I thought they said that aswell, but we dont really have clear intel on yes or no


Heres my cheat sheet Ive been keeping for loadout options

Some of the new ones are guesses

(Guns)
Armor Ability:
  • Jetpack
  • Hardlight Shield
  • Thruster Pack
  • Promethean Vision
  • Hologram
  • Regen Field
  • Autosentry
  • Active Camo
Tactical Package:
  • Firepower: Carry 2 primary weapons
  • Shielding: Shield Recharge Rate buff
  • AA Efficiency: AA Recharge Rate buff
  • Grenadier: Pick up grenades from fallen Spartans
  • Stealth: Decreased visibilty vs PromVision, Faster Assassination Animation, dampened footsteps*
  • Stability: Lessened knock out of scope*
  • Nemesis: Possibly reveals opponent who last killed you*
  • Gunner: Reduce Turret cool down, move faster when carrying Turret*
Support Package:
  • Ammo Upgrade: Hold more Ammo
  • Sensor Upgrade: Increased Motion Tracker Range
  • Awareness: Use radar while scoped
  • Mobility: Unlimited Sprint
  • Drop Recon: Heads up on Ordnance and On-map weapon drops*
  • Requisition: Ability to re-roll an Ordnance drop*
  • Fast Track: Increased XP bonus*
  • Wheelman: Lessend EMP effect, Vehicle Health buff*

edit: damnit I keep forgetting to update my .txt with those two, I just edit every post
* Unlocked via Specializations
 
H

HigherLevel

Member
While a lot of the extra stuff seems a little questionable without hands on time, the fact that the core gameplay looks so good and all the impressions from Gaffers have been positive has me excited still.
 
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Domino Theory

Crystal Dynamics
zap said:
Ah ok, that's slightly soothing. (I thought that I read that people had extra ammo in the sniper at Comic Con or E3).

So the Stability Mod is an Armour Mod through Specialisations.
The Awareness upgrade is a Support Package.

You can use them both concurrently, as well as a Tactical upgrade? i.e. Shield recharge rate increase, another primary weapon on spawn etc?
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You only get to choose 2 mods (Support and Tactical). Specializations are 'special' mods, it seems, that can be put into EITHER slot so that you could have two specializations active in a given loadout (choose one under Support and one under Tactical).

The opportunity cost of choosing one mod over the other in Halo 4 is larger than in a game like Call of Duty with choosing one perk over the other (why would you use anything other than Last Stand, Stopping Power, and Cold Blooded/Ghost?).

edit: Wait, did they actually say the Ammo mod applies to personal ordnance drops? That's not good, if true. I don't like that at all. I'd always seen it being applied only to starting loadout weapons.

Also, add 'Mobility' (Unlimited Sprint) to the Support mod section and the pick-up-grenades-from-dead-bodies mod to Tactical.
 
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Blueblur1

Member
a zoojoo said:
God, those saggy mom boobs. Please fix them in a patch! I could go into detail, but i'll not.
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I just noticed those. I've seen images of her before but in moving video her "assets" stand out in an weird way. I find it kind of odd that they would bother to change that about her.
 
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zap

Member
nillapuddin said:
I thought they said that aswell, but we dont really have clear intel on yes or no


Heres my cheat sheet Ive been keeping for loadout options

Some of the new ones are guesses

(Guns)
Armor Ability:
  • Jetpack
  • Hardlight Shield
  • Thruster Pack
  • Promethean Vision
  • Hologram
  • Regen Field
  • Autosentry
  • Active Camo
Tactical Package:
  • Firepower: Carry 2 primary weapons
  • Shielding: Shield Recharge Rate buff
  • AA Efficiency: AA Recharge Rate buff
  • Stealth: Decreased visibilty vs PromVision, Faster Assassination Animation, dampened footsteps*
  • Stability: Lessened knock out of scope*
  • Nemesis: Possibly reveals opponent who last killed you*
  • Gunner: Reduce Turret cool down, move faster when carrying Turret*
Support Package:
  • Ammo Upgrade: Hold more Ammo
  • Sensor Upgrade: Increased Motion Tracker Range
  • Awareness: Use radar while scoped
  • Drop Recon: Heads up on Ordnance and On-map weapon drops*
  • Requisition: Ability to re-roll an Ordnance drop*
  • Fast Track: Increased XP bonus*
  • Wheelman: Lessend EMP effect, Vehicle Health buff*

* Unlocked via Specializations
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Domino Theory said:
You only get to choose 2 mods (Support and Tactical). Specializations are 'special' mods, it seems, that can be put into EITHER slot so that you could have two specializations active in a given loadout (choose one under Support and one under Tactical).

The opportunity cost of choosing one mod over the other in Halo 4 is larger than in a game like Call of Duty with choosing one perk over the other (why would you use anything other than Last Stand, Stopping Power, and Cold Blooded/Ghost?).

edit: Wait, did they actually say the Ammo mod applies to personal ordnance drops? That's not good, if true. I don't like that at all. I'd always seen it being applied only to starting loadout weapons.

Also, add 'Mobility' (Unlimited Sprint) to the Support mod section and the pick-up-grenades-from-dead-bodies mod to Tactical.
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Ahh, ok I must have misread the bulletin, I was under the impression that the specialisation mods were another slot.

But even so, you can still have the stabilisation and awareness upgrades on a sniper to make it super frustrating to play against.

I do remember people (here? Youtube videos?) talking about how the amount of ammo in the sniper was really high - thinking the ammo upgrade could have been activated by default.
 
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DeadNames

Banned
zap said:
Ah ok, that's slightly soothing. (I thought that I read that people had extra ammo in the sniper at Comic Con or E3).

So the Stability Mod is an Armour Mod through Specialisations.
The Awareness upgrade is a Support Package.

You can use them both concurrently, as well as a Tactical upgrade? i.e. Shield recharge rate increase, another primary weapon on spawn etc?
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Armor mods are parts of the packages. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't packages renamed to armor mods?
 
F

Fracas

#fuckonami
Motherfucking campaign spoilers? AHHHHHHHHHHHH

You got to be kidding me. Yeah, that is completely right, you can make it out. FUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK

edit: Can we please make a spoiler thread? Or at least spoiler tag things?
 
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FyreWulff

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I won't get it. I never get them. :lol
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Protip: to get more jackpots, quit a couple of matches now and then (non-Score Attack, because Score Attack quits aren't counted). I usually ragequit when playing FFA since it doesn't negatively impact people.

Based off what has happened to me, Wu, and other people, the jackpot-chance-variable is set up to reward 'normal' behavior, ie some quits here and there, and doesn't reward perfect behavior, ie never quitting, probably to keep people from just boosting to it by going in full party and ending games quickly.

If I play a bunch of games in a row and don't quit, then I quit, I almost always get the jackpot within the next two games. Reliably.

edit: I'm also not saying people should go into matchmaking to explicitly quit, but don't hestitate to up and leave games that piss you off.
 
nillapuddin

nillapuddin

Member
DeadNames said:
Armor mods are parts of the packages. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't packages renamed to armor mods?
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Well now looking at Waypoint they list the two categories as

Tactical Packages
and
Support Upgrades

It would alleviate so much confusion if they just screen capped the loadout screen so the every-now-and-then fans can understand how the loadout system works
 
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NobleGundam

Banned
monsterfracas said:
Motherfucking campaign spoilers? AHHHHHHHHHHHH

You got to be kidding me. Yeah, that is completely right, you can make it out. FUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK

edit: Can we please make a spoiler thread? Or at least spoiler tag things?
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Agreed. I did not want to know this part, and considering that a member of ours spoiled this very thing after E3 a week later about "you know who".
 
FUNKNOWN iXi

FUNKNOWN iXi

Member
Delta Unit Hinkle said:
Don't quite Understand what you mean. Do you mean so i dont post so much?
If so i will try

And thank you i have been around for a while just been super busy been working a lot

I'm a culinary School Graduate and a professional Chef/ cook. People Like food. I make Really good food. Halo and food go together I have the food and play the halo. so yeah not trying to be Creepy Just saying.
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Yup, that's what I meant and lol nice man! My brother is a professional chef and makes some crazy good food :D

a zoojoo said:
what's a zoozoo

Wait, unknown, how the fuck aren't you a member yet?
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Junior for life!
lmfao that video

nillapuddin said:
-incredibly helpful info-
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You, Sir, are a GOD amongst men.
 
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TCKaos

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Bregmann Roche

Member
monsterfracas said:
Motherfucking campaign spoilers? AHHHHHHHHHHHH

You got to be kidding me. Yeah, that is completely right, you can make it out. FUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK

edit: Can we please make a spoiler thread? Or at least spoiler tag things?
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Yeah, just a message to everyone: if there's anything plot related that you want to talk about that could even be remotely spoilery, just tag it.
 
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Jmte

Neo Member
kittens said:
Honest mistake. Do it again and we'll have your head. :p
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I think I owe several people here new pairs of eyeballs....



I sincerely apologise to anyone here who I spoiled some of the story for that didn't want spoilers. It won't happen again.
 
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Tawpgun

Member
OT as shit but I just saw that latest episode of Breaking Bad.

Oh my god.

Someone get Vince Gilligan to write a season of SpOps.
 
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Ryaaan14

Banned
I've been out of town for one day and the thread went ape.

On page 168 trying to wrap my head around this specialization shit. Armor looks great, although it was absolutely confusing as hell and poor journalism to place one armor set with each specialization. People are going to think the specializations are linked to the armor. :_(
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Kibbles said:
Is the Depth-of-Field on some of those shots in the trailer in-game or added for effect?
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It's in engine. Naturally it won't be in gameplay where depth of field is important, but it's real time. In fact I believe everything in that video is in real time game engine, except for the real life shots and the fact that we photoshopped our address to read 343.

Also, all the footage in that trailer is months old and every single scene looks better now.
 
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GloveSlap

Member
A little late to complain, but I can't believe they took out Anniversary Big Team. I can't even keep playing the half-assed attempt at a Halo 1 online multiplayer I paid for. Unreal.
 
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Plywood

NeoGAF's smiling token!
Ryaaan14 said:
I've been out of town for one day and the thread went ape.

On page 168 trying to wrap my head around this specialization shit. Armor looks great, although it was absolutely confusing as hell and poor journalism to place one armor set with each specialization. People are going to think the specializations are linked to the armor. :_(
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=41075535

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41075386&postcount=18316

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pb32nFKek

That is all you need.
 
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