ViewtifulJC
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They need to go ahead and make a plyalist called "Oddball Swordbase"
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Halo |OT7| You may leave, Juices. And take Team Downer with you.
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Let's talk about Autosentry.
Do you guys think it will have a "construction time" like a TF2 turret, or be an instant deploy like equipment in Halo 3?
I'm hoping for a "construction time."
I also don't want it to be playlist restricted. I really think the rules/availability of all weapons, grenades, packages, and abilities should be universal in standard playlists.
Damage is gonna be really risky on it.
It can't be too powerful, because then its like having an extra player on your team focus firing. Camping next to a sentry would be too good.
If it's too weak it can be pointless, but that puts emphasis on its placement and use.
I think with sprint, hardlight shield, camo (which would make you invisible to turrets) and jet/thruster pack, the damage can afford to be higher.
A team running multiple sentries could then be pushed on with a team countering by using camo and hardlight.
I just hope we get a chance to see it soon.
They should do a UNSC Infinity "Training Program" inspired breakdown of the armor abilities. An Auntie Dot sounding voice that's all like
>Hardlight Shield
>Developed from blah blah blah technology
>Anti-small arms fire blah blah canon blah
>Be warned, vulnerable to blah blah and fully charged Plasma Pistol bolts
>Melees can penetrate the Hardlight Shield, but not Plasma Sword technolgy
Something like that.
Do you guys think it will have a "construction time" like a TF2 turret, or be an instant deploy like equipment in Halo 3?
I'm hoping for a "construction time."
I also don't want it to be playlist restricted. I really think the rules/availability of all weapons, grenades, packages, and abilities should be universal in standard playlists.
Damage is gonna be really risky on it.
It can't be too powerful, because then its like having an extra player on your team focus firing. Camping next to a sentry would be too good.
If it's too weak it can be pointless, but that puts emphasis on its placement and use.
I think with sprint, hardlight shield, camo (which would make you invisible to turrets) and jet/thruster pack, the damage can afford to be higher.
A team running multiple sentries could then be pushed on with a team countering by using camo and hardlight.
I just hope we get a chance to see it soon.
They should do a UNSC Infinity "Training Program" inspired breakdown of the armor abilities. An Auntie Dot sounding voice that's all like
>Hardlight Shield
>Developed from blah blah blah technology
>Anti-small arms fire blah blah canon blah
>Be warned, vulnerable to blah blah and fully charged Plasma Pistol bolts
>Melees can penetrate the Hardlight Shield, but not Plasma Sword technolgy
Something like that.
Steelyuhas
Member
Sometimes executive decisions need to be made.
I think it will be an instant deploy. My general idea of it based on the duration of the AA's we've seen is that it will be decently powerful, but it will disappear/combust after about 5-7 seconds.
Agreed that I don't really want to see abilities and weapons playlist restricted (other than the obvious fringe playlists like SWAT). Custom loadouts are going to suck if some of my loadouts are just disabled in a playlist because some ability is not for that playlist.
As long as AA's aren't in MLG, I'm good.
Garrett 2U
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I think it would be mighty nifty if the autosentry's weapon was like a plasma rifle.
Not very accurate at mid to long range, does lots of damage to shields, but takes a bit for the kill.
Also I hope it moves around automatically so it doesn't promote camping too much.
I hope the opposite.
ElzarTheBam
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Every time I put the Halo 3 disk in, and hear the music in the menu. I am reminded of the euphoric release of the hype that was built leading up to the game.
In other words, I'm on H3, Join me.
In other words, I'm on H3, Join me.
Wow, they showed everything but the game.
Goddamn. Even after being incredibly underwhelmed by Primordium, that got me hyped. Very interested to see how this plays out.
This spider sentry you've described is now one of the creepiest images I've had in my mind in a while...
I hope it's stationary personally. I do like the idea of a restricted range and it being more about space and territory control than killing.
I also think you should be able to out-sprint the turning radius. So, if you're ahead of it firing at you, you can't out run it. But if you get caught by it, the stopping power slowing down your sprint will get you pegged and you'll take more damage.
Truthfully, I just hope we get to see it soon.
The Librarian
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I'll get on, but I can only play one game and I don't have a mic. Invites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMWP-sxmqNQ&list=UU7NCg0venpKJg3kuJojKlbQ&index=2&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI6_dGyuPCQ&list=UU7NCg0venpKJg3kuJojKlbQ&index=1&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sscCrd7i2Ek&list=UU7NCg0venpKJg3kuJojKlbQ&index=6&feature=plcp
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
What are you guys gonna do if MLG doesn't pick it up and there's no playlist? Heh.
Slightly Live
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Have Auto-Sentries cease functioning/blow up when the person that deploys it dies, that means you can't pull it out of your ass if you're near death hoping to turn the tables and it also means you can't simply put a few down near an objective and walk away.
Custom games.
I'm envisioning it being more of a distraction than anything else, not really doing any major damage, but still enough to put you at a disadvantage should you get caught by it before a 1 on 1 gunfight.
I'm also guessing that it wouldn't deal with multiple enemies either.
Thanks, I hadn't seen that.
I enjoy these, but they're not about the development of the game, which is what I and others have been asking for.
Dozens of smiling faces for a product they won't show more than 10 seconds of.
That's my point.
The next best league for Halo is probably IPL.
However, the split in Reach's own competitive settings certainly don't help at all either. MLG, CGL, Arena Gaming, TLN, GoldPro, and anyone else who thinks their competitive settings are "better" because their run speed is on 125% instead of 110% only further divides the user base.
I think if multiple leagues pick up Halo 4, the competitive settings have to be standard.
What would be cool, is if 343i hosted the first widespread tournament for Halo with input from competitive communities (not the competitive leagues mind you) on what default gametypes would pair best with the default maps.
Then, 343i hosts the first tournament with widespread coverage on the XBL dashboard, in game notification, and directed users to where they could watch this competitive tournament on default settings.
This would then exemplify to all communities that the game doesn't need to be tweaked to hold competitive viability.
David Ellis always looks happy-go-lucky as fuck. Should probably sell Ellis plushies at the 343 store.
Steelyuhas
Member
Yeah lol seems a bit early to be discussing MLG settings, when don't even know if they'll pick up the game.
We know that there is a tournaments feature coming to Xbox Live in the fall, so I wonder if 343 is planning on hosting tournaments for Halo 4.
I missed where that point was being made. It's well established that I have no sarcasm detector.
How to maek game video:
Show back angle camera of crowd
Show players playing game in forefront with heavy focus for DOF effect
cut to studio figurehead talking
show more heavy depth-of-field player shot
show crowd from 170 degree angle with low contrast
show person staring at screen
cut to studio figurehead talking again
5 seconds of game
show people again
show computers in dark room
You now owe Waggener Edstrom 10,000$
https://twitter.com/MLGSundance/status/228982668656795648
Halo isn't dead yet. We're still trying. Hope halo fans are too.
@MLGSundance
5:38 PM - 27 Jul 12
Ugh I just want the standard competitive playlist to be whatever stock one 343 puts in. Not gonna happen though.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Steelyuhas
Member
Not saying it's not a possibility at all, just that we don't know. Personally, I think there are plenty of more things I feel are important to know about the game that we don't know yet than what competitive leagues are interested in using the game and what their settings are going to be like.
MLG's management of Reach doesn't leave me excited for their possible future with Halo 4 to be honest.
Yeah I agree. I think if MLG picks up the game that's great, but for matchmaking I think a "Team Hardcore" playlist is a smarter decision.
The Librarian
Banned
I think that'll be the last wrap-up video I watch in a while. They're essentially for people who don't keep up with main events and want a cool summary. I don't get much out of them.
Thanks for the game, Elzar and Over. Excellent Warthog action there too, Over. I'm eating right now but if you guys are still on when I'm done I'll get back on.
Ugh I keep forgetting about Radar. What a piece of junk.
_Computer_
Banned
You will never have to start with a AR again in Halo 4 ship it.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Yeah, they'd don't feel aimed at me, kind of a marketing summary video.
Cynical, but I find it hard to put faith that Sundance's quotes will amount to much. I think while he'd like to support Halo better, the tweet struck me as something like this.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yep, send me a message on live when you're back on.
Steelyuhas
Member
Well I would assume a Team Hardcore playlist wouldn't have radar, but yeah if you're speaking in general it's not going anywhere. Hell, we know at least 2 perks involve changes/improvements to radar.
Picking your starting weapons is unquestionably a good decision in my mind. The fact that the Fragmentation King AR vs BR start was an issue in Halo for 3 damn games is simply incredible, but better late than never on the fix.
Well I'm not buying Halo 4 anyway 'till the MLG playlist is added, so if they don't pick it up, I won't be buying the game.
Actually, I may buy it if there's a decent ranking system, plus a playlist that has none of the sprint/AA/Recoil/Bloom stuff.
Nothing about it feels like marketing though. They are nice summaries for people who are the more casual fan. It's a really nice idea, but like Dax said I rather see more game footage.
This is so funny to me.
_Computer_
Banned
Im not sure if the AR is a main starting weapon one can choose. If so then it will be a dead weapon. It would make a better secondary.
Steelyuhas
Member
Prepare to be disappointed then.
AR is a primary. I think we'll all be surprised by how much scrubs roll with it as their primary weapon, most of the Rooster Teeth guys were using AR primary on Longbow (large map) at RTX.
For me, the uses for the weapon will probably be some loadouts with the Firepower perk on, which allows two primary weapons. May have a loadout or two with AR or Storm Rifle secondary.
Even if the AR dies I still think it's a great decision. The AR vs. BR/DMR starts basically created two different games, and not only was it frustrating for the player, but it made playlist management even more of a nightmare than it already is.
A new competitive community will rise in it's stead.
THC
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NobleGundam
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Could 343 share a list of new changes from the MP Beta Build? ex. any weapons, AA, power-ups got nerfed, etc.
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