Out of curiosity, are you familiar with the way MLG selected Forge maps for the playlist in Reach?
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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains
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The Real Napsta
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lolololol
thezerofire
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I'm a level 6 now, but thanks for offering
They either had them made by someone in the org or picked one out of their forums. Playlist is off limits otherwise for content, and only gets updated when it's allowed to be updated.
This is versus Grifball which gets continually updated by various content sources and didn't stop because there wasn't a new event to promote. Nonfactor for 4 since there won't be a GB playlist, though. But there's clearly one playlist that actually has it's community allowed to be involved and one that acts as an advertisement for a company that doesn't even carry the game anymore.
Aggrotek
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It would just rush you through the early stuff faster until you caught up to my level.
MLG's going to get a playlist whether you like it or not.
Microsoft/343 invited players to come and test out the game and get feedback. There's going to be a pre-release Halo 4 tourney.
I don't consider that a bad thing thing at all, as long as the playlist is managed and updated properly.
Kind of related, I'm extremely curious as to what the standard MLG settings will be in Halo 4. Will they allow loadouts? Personal ordnance? I wonder where they draw the line as far as what is "competitive".
Microsoft/343 invited players to come and test out the game and get feedback. There's going to be a pre-release Halo 4 tourney.
I don't consider that a bad thing thing at all, as long as the playlist is managed and updated properly.
Kind of related, I'm extremely curious as to what the standard MLG settings will be in Halo 4. Will they allow loadouts? Personal ordnance? I wonder where they draw the line as far as what is "competitive".
Doing that and making it their competitive based set of playlists would increase the population by a lot. Many people I know are turned off by the "MLG" name on the playlist even if all they did on Halo 3 was ranked, just the term "MLG" seems off-putting to them I guess.
thezerofire
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wouldn't I get basically no experience though? I played with a friend where I was a few levels above him but it gave me basically no experience
ViewtifulJC
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you would get it, Aggro wouldn't get great numbers.
Aggrotek
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If I join your game and we just blow through the missions and stuff you will level pretty nicely. Been doing it for other people to help catch their new characters up.
And I am fine with this.
thezerofire
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ah ok thanks. Aggro what's your gt?
Hardlight Shield loses everytime...Im not sure how long it blocks the machine gun but you can just shoot your rockets to the side of the shield or just stomp
Aggrotek
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I think it looks good, it's not supposed to be lush, but I also see how it feels like a missed opportunity. I loved how the CEA remakes changed the feel of the maps--the dusty Hang 'em High and frosty Prisoner dramatically improved on the original. Unlike those CE maps, Valhalla had its own distinct visual style originally, but going all snowy or further towards a wasteland look would have been a better idea, I think.
I really have no idea if the lack of grass we've seen thus far is due to engine constraints or not. They do have all the waypoints over weapons now so it's never been harder to miss an item...
Probably, but I still think it's lame how fast they dropped it.
I was thinking if the stomp can go through it or if you'll just get pushed back.
Killa KC. Pretty much was up to him.
I always tried to work with him and other MLG forum guys to look at the maps they would inexplicably exclude from their playlist but didn't have much luck. Tons of really good competitive maps that would just get thrown away because they weren't picked up by MLG.
I think if the stomp can kill a ghost it will go through the shield. I think
Demoncarnotaur
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Yeah, I mean I think it just hugs this middle ground of dry and arid and cold, lush tundra but does neither great. I wish it would have found one and committed to it, maybe had a little snow blowing around on the ground, make the map sound windy, give it a cold but beautiful skybox, etc. I'm a sucker for environments like that so I'm disappointed it didn't happen..I'm even more disappointed that what we got is pretty boring. If grass was too much for the engine I think other ground textures and color pallets could have been used in a more interesting manner.
Im liking the look of the new map. I like the look of the rocks and then having a waterfall run through it. looks really nice
Magmarock?
Yeah, something closer to Sword Base would have been a better fit, I think. Then again, I loved classic Halo/Forerunner grass, water and metal, and even Forge World hasn't beaten that love out of me
Deadly Cyclone
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You are now one of my favorite people. I <3 Emma.
Anyways, I got a Halo 4 email. That, GameFuel, map videos on IGN, the marketing machine is spinning up...
Demoncarnotaur
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heh, I met Emma Watson when she was in Pittsburgh.
I <3 the tundra of sword base, its very convincing and good looking. That little segment with the glaciers is amazing, if the lake and mountain walls were glacial on Ragnarok... Damn. Ragnarok just doesn't look right to me, its like I can't figure out what time of environment it is.. It just has the look of a lush tundra during a drought.
Save it for the waterworks remake. Lavaworks.
Although I would rather they stick with the water look with only little bits of lava spruced throughout the cave.
Yeah, something closer to Sword Base would have been a better fit, I think. Then again, I loved classic Halo/Forerunner grass, water and metal, and even Forge World hasn't beaten that love out of me
I <3 the tundra of sword base, its very convincing and good looking. That little segment with the glaciers is amazing, if the lake and mountain walls were glacial on Ragnarok... Damn. Ragnarok just doesn't look right to me, its like I can't figure out what time of environment it is.. It just has the look of a lush tundra during a drought.
Save it for the waterworks remake. Lavaworks.
Although I would rather they stick with the water look with only little bits of lava spruced throughout the cave.
They clung to Halo for years and years, despite its declining competitive viability. Everyone at MLG would love to have Halo on the circuit, but the games simply didn't warrant that.
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Latvian Hitman
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Should I go ahead and skip the season pass then?
Considering how Promethean Vision is probably horribly broken without radar, you're going to have to do a bit more tweaking.
ViewtifulJC
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Unless you REALLY want a VCR ducktapped to your Spartan Helmet
mhi
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That had nothing to do with MLG and everything with to do with Reach as a game. It wasn't like they dropped their most popular game on the circuit.
With the playlist discussion, I as well am in favor of a Team Hardcore playlist as opposed to an MLG one.
Latvian Hitman
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Decisions, decisions...
Hey Tashi just got my poster today thanks!
The Antitype
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So I just found out a remake of Valhalla is in Halo 4.... and now I'm stuck at work with soiled pants.
Favorite Halo map. I missed it so much in Reach, the community remakes didn't quite cut it. So stoked to see it back.
Favorite Halo map. I missed it so much in Reach, the community remakes didn't quite cut it. So stoked to see it back.
Nah, it was more like they dropped Halo after they went chasing after the Korean leagues with Starcraft and it's ilk.
At one point in this year, going to MLG's website just started a Starcraft 2 stream and nothing else.
As I said before, the Capcom strategy would be of good use here.
Same.my favorite map used to be Blood Gulch but i think Hemorrhage ruined it for meSo I just found out a remake of Valhalla is in Halo 4.... and now I'm stuck at work with soiled pants.
Favorite Halo map. I missed it so much in Reach, the community remakes didn't quite cut it. So stoked to see it back.
K
kittens
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Valhalla with lava would be amazing.
Replacing all of the water with magma would give you an actual reason for why the Warthog explodes when it goes too far off the coast.
I could imagine a Dark valhalla with there being black rocks everywhere with a lava fall
I'm actually surprised we haven't gotten a lava environment in a Halo yet. Campaign or multiplayer.
Hydranockz
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SpOps man!
iirc we saw a SpOps area with lava
Demoncarnotaur
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Does anyone have that Halo 3 MP art of Valhalla at night with a lot of chaos and snow?
Lava in any map as a major visual influence would be awesome. Im not sure how well it would work as a map hazard though.
Lava in any map as a major visual influence would be awesome. Im not sure how well it would work as a map hazard though.
Ehh I think you're both half wrong and half right.
There's no doubt Halo Reach "should" have been a more popular game. Not only in terms of units sold but also players in the competitive community. I don't attribute that all to the game. Obviously, because I love Reach. There are a lot of reasons we saw this decline. I have some ideas as to why but if I knew for sure I wouldn't be here right now. Neither of us would. You can't just put it all on the game and say that was the reason.
As far MLG and their dropping of Halo. Maybe they were losing money on Halo for a long time. Maybe it was finally after StarCraft 2 started making them money that they could get rid of Halo because it wasn't the biggest draw for MLG anymore. It's not so cut and dry on either side.
Fuch, I know that there are things that could go wrong when you remove radar and we really don't know how it will play without (We actually spoke about it on the podcast we did with Bravo). However, something has to be done. Radar is the devil. I'll remain open about the game though and who knows, maybe radar is necessary in the game and better with it
I seriously fucking doubt it lol