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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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Domino Theory
Crystal Dynamics
OMFG, did Cashman just actually say the email I sent to 1v100 Live? :lol
Edit: nvm
Edit: nvm
Grimm Fandango
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Just got home an hour ago. Went on a little trip so I missed all the X10 goodness.
Awesome viddoc. Game definitely has me excited. My calendar is marked and ready for May.
Oh and all of you fuckers better be getting Perfect Dark XBLA or I'm crackin' skulls.
Awesome viddoc. Game definitely has me excited. My calendar is marked and ready for May.
Oh and all of you fuckers better be getting Perfect Dark XBLA or I'm crackin' skulls.
ToyMachine228
Member
Just watched the ViDoc again and going to read some Evolutions before bed. Still jizzing in my pants over Reach. There aren't many videogame franchises that can make me giddy anymore, but Halo is definitely one of them.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Ramirez said:The best thing to come out of these videos is seeing the crosshairs in motion, not being able to hold down the trigger on the AR will probably make for a much more strategic feel in gunplay. Getting into a rhythm with the reDeemer will be a thing of beauty.
Was said on that podcast that the crosshairs in motion is just showing data that was already there...so pretty sure people will still spray the AR and run at you, cutting the distance. :lol
I see this being visibly shown is going to help balance the play a lot, if people pay attention to it. The reDeemer does look pretty beast though.
Yeah, I would always tell my friends when playing teh Haloz that it's more effective to burst fire the AR when they're father back, and they never believe me/didn't know that it deals more damage that way. This will definitely help a lot of players.Not a Jellyfish said:Was said on that podcast that the crosshairs in motion is just showing data that was already there...so pretty sure people will still spray the AR and run at you, cutting the distance. :lol
I see this being visibly shown is going to help balance the play a lot, if people pay attention to it. The reDeemer does look pretty beast though.
electricpirate
Member
Not a Jellyfish said:Was said on that podcast that the crosshairs in motion is just showing data that was already there...so pretty sure people will still spray the AR and run at you, cutting the distance. :lol
I see this being visibly shown is going to help balance the play a lot, if people pay attention to it. The reDeemer does look pretty beast though.
Don't underestimate the power of small changes to visual feedback to change player behavior.
I'll miss my super easy AR kills though, sometimes I was the only person in the game that understood that you had to fire it in bursts. It's like everyone in the game was a fresh marine with an m16 full auto.
Quick observation: Bungie said on the last podcast that the first level has a non-linear component, similar to the Halo mission from the first game. From the vidoc it looks like this is from the first level (where the Spartans land).
Pretty clear there's multiple paths here - the direction the group is coming from, splits off in either direction and the road on up ahead. They could just loop around to be different vantages on two areas, but even having that is a shift from a lot of Halo 3's missions.
Pretty clear there's multiple paths here - the direction the group is coming from, splits off in either direction and the road on up ahead. They could just loop around to be different vantages on two areas, but even having that is a shift from a lot of Halo 3's missions.
Syracuse022
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"Mode" is the proper term, right?Kapura said:
Not a Jellyfish said:Was said on that podcast that the crosshairs in motion is just showing data that was already there...so pretty sure people will still spray the AR and run at you, cutting the distance. :lol
I see this being visibly shown is going to help balance the play a lot, if people pay attention to it. The reDeemer does look pretty beast though.
Wait, are you saying the expanding reticule does nothing to the actual spread of the gun?
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
GhaleonEB said:
Thanks for clarrifying what I said Ghaleon.
Yes, it is displaying information that was already there and there is a huge difference between spraying the AR and bursting it in H3. The rhythm and the expanding of the reticle is something that was there in H3 but just not visible to the player.
Kapura said:
IT'S A SCALE OR A MODE. I WAS YELLING AT MARTY!!!!1
Blueblur1 said:
You're welcome! I could have said something about Sonic furries and didn't! I am like, four Jesus' on the Niceness Scale.
The winners are picked legit, in order of arrival. They had about 3300 emails.
Pretty big difference with the AR in Halo 1 as well. This is the kind of stuff only AR experts know.Ramirez said:
Stand in front of a wall that will show bullet marks, from about 25 feet or so. Empty a clip. Examine spread of bullets. Repeat exercise from same point while pulsing the trigger. Lemme know how that goes.
Though I suspect you'll be working on the DMR rhythm more.
Edit: here, just for you: http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3fileid=106109853
Lesson: short, controlled bursts > spray and pray.
Edit 2: on an unrelated note, how awesome is it that I could go into a game, demonstrate, record a clip, put it in file share, hit render on b.net and have that posted in about seven minutes? So awesome. Such a delicious feature set.
never played any of the halo single player campaigns. Only occasionally played Halo 2 and Halo 3 multiplayer 4 player split screen co op.
I think tribes 1 shits on halo.
With that said, halo:reach makes me want to play through halo 1-odst just to know the story so i can fully appreciate halo reach.
It looks that good.
I think tribes 1 shits on halo.
With that said, halo:reach makes me want to play through halo 1-odst just to know the story so i can fully appreciate halo reach.
It looks that good.
If Cocop knows anything about Halo it's how to work an AR. He admitted himself that he never bursts his shots and always opts to hold the trigger down. It's true that it makes it less accurate and less bullets will land on their target but bursting the AR decreases the rate of fire of course so it's not worth it.Ramirez said:
Don't expect the AR to work any differently in Reach. It's one concern of mine with making the DMR have that widening reticule, sure you can time your shots and make sure they all land, but it might be more effective to just unload and hope the random spread lets you "outgun" the opposition. I'd much rather wrestle a heavy recoil which shows me exactly where the bullets will land and let me compensate than just wait longer between shots or risk leaving my bullet trajectory up to chance.
Cuban Legend
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Is is just me, or does anyone else miss Luke's epic Beard from the Halo 3 ViDocs?
I just want to ask if you guys think theater mode is still going to be in play here. Wasn't one of the reasons Bungie took the resolution down for Halo 3 because the pressure recording every action put on the system? I'm sure Bungie improved their engine but Halo running at 720p with 40 active AI, 20 vehicles, 40 dynamic lighting effects going on at the same time, AND theater mode recording everything seems almost too good to be true.
Seemed to indicate if you had any Halo 2 games recorded on your gamertag.Brainboy said:Hm, I can't quite figure out the wording about the 'Halo veteran' emblem in the update. Is it going to be given to all previous Halo 2 players, or only people who play on the last day? Would be a shame if it was the latter, since I probably won't be able to participate.
DragoNZ DZ
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Generic said:
Yes
The resolution was due to E-Dram plus the HDR storage method (not to be confused with their "lighting" methods...) they were using (plus other factors of course, but those were two of the large ones). Had nothing to do with saved films. Saved films are a couple megabytes of data, used to recreate a game from moment to moment. No "pixel" is ever saved, just data like locations, directions, triggers, etc.
You just need to look at the size of a saved film. Then compare it with the fact that, just like Halo: CE, they're constantly streaming data in. Compared to the streaming data, the amount for a saved film is insignificant (couple MB over the course of half an hour, versus several MB every single second for streaming).
dilatedmuscle
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Dont get me wrong, i love everything that bungie employees are doing but they have been showing some of the most unflattering images since day 1.
Why are there images like this being posted
When there are moments that look like this.
The official screen looks good but this grab looks astonishing, im pretty sure there are other moments that look that amazing but almost all of the screens have been lackluster compared to what goes on during gameplay.
Why are there images like this being posted
When there are moments that look like this.
The official screen looks good but this grab looks astonishing, im pretty sure there are other moments that look that amazing but almost all of the screens have been lackluster compared to what goes on during gameplay.
dilatedmuscle
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I hope they give the Jackals a bit of a more important roles, when i think about the covenants main enemies I think about the ELites then the Grunts and then the Jackals somewhere in the background being retards.
Listened to the 1up interview:
-Effort in "putting the civilians culture to life", Will see civilians, fight alongside civilians. Seem like they really want you to care about Reach and the civilians will play a part in it.
-Absolutely no dual wielding in Reach
- To stay fresh they'll be throwing a lot of scenarios at the player that're really new and fresh
-on the topic of the height of the different models. The spartans are shorter than spartan IIs and the elites are taller. "That definitely plays into the mechanics of each of those characters. And we're playing with that, we're actually have a good time making sure that actually balances well together in multiplayer." So yeah, elites in MP, and not even midget elites to match the spartan models but models that are significantly larger. It'll be interesting to see steps they take to make elites something other than bigger targets with huge heads. Hopefully they'll put code in to make certain models restricted for whatever reason may arise.
They confirm elites in MP in this interview at 1:40 too. Also from this interview they say "no spartan classes" which I take to mean no class based system if that was even still being speculated.
-Effort in "putting the civilians culture to life", Will see civilians, fight alongside civilians. Seem like they really want you to care about Reach and the civilians will play a part in it.
-Absolutely no dual wielding in Reach
- To stay fresh they'll be throwing a lot of scenarios at the player that're really new and fresh
-on the topic of the height of the different models. The spartans are shorter than spartan IIs and the elites are taller. "That definitely plays into the mechanics of each of those characters. And we're playing with that, we're actually have a good time making sure that actually balances well together in multiplayer." So yeah, elites in MP, and not even midget elites to match the spartan models but models that are significantly larger. It'll be interesting to see steps they take to make elites something other than bigger targets with huge heads. Hopefully they'll put code in to make certain models restricted for whatever reason may arise.
They confirm elites in MP in this interview at 1:40 too. Also from this interview they say "no spartan classes" which I take to mean no class based system if that was even still being speculated.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
EazyB said:
:/
Well, it makes the wait to experience that "big risk" even harder.
Syracuse022
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It's a weird shot for another reason - there is all kinds of clipping going on (wood on wood, wood on ground). I wonder why it even made the cut, to be honest.clashfan said:
Thank goodness. About damn time.EazyB said:
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godhandiscen said:
From what Eazy posted about the difference in size of the models between Spartans and Elites in MP, it could very well be differences in play style between the two. Possibly certain advantages or armor abilities depending on which you choose to play as.
Not a Jellyfish said:
That could be really interesting. I could imagine hardcore players hating it, as no doubt it will bring up lots of new balancing issues, but there are ways around it. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they have shaken up the multiplayer.
The game looks damn good graphically, the beta can't come soon enough!
I'm so excited for this, this is exactly the type of Halo I've been waiting for since the first one. It looks incredible. I've grown bored of FPS the last few years, this will change that.
I thought Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST were fun, but not brilliant. Halo 2 is one my favourite games, but it felt too different to the first, like a different game for the most part.
I thought Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST were fun, but not brilliant. Halo 2 is one my favourite games, but it felt too different to the first, like a different game for the most part.