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Halo Reach Reveal Thread - Matchmaking/Multiplayer Details Revealed
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The Librarian
Banned
Listening now!
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Ohh man, how long is the podcast?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Dang, it's going to take 10 minutes due to my slow ass peak time bandwidth. Worth the wait. :lol
Good news that the next one won't be delayed.
Good news that the next one won't be delayed.
Shake Appeal
Member
I have received my third mention on Bungie.net. Holla.
squidhands
Member
I hate it when my baby gets banged on. :lol
Shake Appeal
Member
Not enough people playing the alpha?! Do you want a European perspective?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Wait, three podcasts for March? This is the second, so another before Thursday or can I not do basic maths?
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Awesome, listening to the Podcast now.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
urk said:
Zeouterlimits
Member
They did ask for.
They did receive.
There was rejoicing.
\o/
They did receive.
There was rejoicing.
\o/
Really? You're having trouble with the Bungie link?Sai said:
You can grab a copy here, I guess:
http://files2.bungie.org/Bungie_Podcast_32910.mp3
Hope this helps!
Interesting discussion on FOV and how changing it cascaded to changes in other areas - wider view, slower speed, shorter mêlée lunge distance and lower camera to the ground compared to Halo 3.
Sage, droppin' facts left and right.
Edit: we gotta get an assasination train going in the Beta.
Sage, droppin' facts left and right.
Edit: we gotta get an assasination train going in the Beta.
Shake Appeal
Member
Ghaleon, are you in the alpha, or can you say?
Mr Vociferous
Member
Nah, not this time around. We're just making some of the existing Reach screenshots available on Waypoint for the folks who frequent it. We'll be sprinkling them throughout Waypoint over the next few weeks. Nothing megatonish.wwm0nkey said:
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Vidoc coming next month.
I wish. I think it's still internal to Microsoft/Bungie and those associated with them.Shake Appeal said:
Like what I'm hearing about grenades, and how the damage radius graduates more evenly. More powerful, slightly more rare, frags.
Edit: oh god, you can shoot dropped grenades in MP to detonate them. Thank you
Schmitty
Member
Fall damage is back (to a smaller degree)
Longer one on one fights
Elites have more health and shields regen faster than Spartans
5 Headshot DMR kill
Gametypes w/o abilities will exist
Frags do more damage, more rare on maps
Some of the stuff discussed if you don't want to listen. I probably missed some things
Longer one on one fights
Elites have more health and shields regen faster than Spartans
5 Headshot DMR kill
Gametypes w/o abilities will exist
Frags do more damage, more rare on maps
Some of the stuff discussed if you don't want to listen. I probably missed some things
Ok well that clears a few things up, thanks.Mr Vociferous said:Nah, not this time around. We're just making some of the existing Reach screenshots available on Waypoint for the folks who frequent it. We'll be sprinkling them throughout Waypoint over the next few weeks. Nothing megatonish.
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
Schmitty said:
Not happy with this piece of info at all.
Shake Appeal
Member
Grenade launcher sounds fucking awesome.
Cuban Legend
Member
GhaleonEB said:
This adds a whole new layer to the gameplay. Not only will I be looking to the skies in a MP match, but also to the ground.
Wait, but didn't I see a 1 headshot DMR kill in the ViDoc? :OSchmitty said:
Cooked, EMP secondary fire. Good lord.Shake Appeal said:
Banshees are going to rain from the sky.
Fall damage is in, to some degree. "You've got to be trying to hurt yourself."
Stun from long falls are in, which I do like a great deal.
Edit:
Health packs are in. Health regenerates in stages, right now in thirds (lose all your health, one third regenerates, need a health pack for the rest).
Shields recharge more slowly than Halo 3 - for Spartans.
Elites have more health, shields than Spartans, to compensate for being larger targets.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
GhaleonEB said:
Air Bursting - fantastic name for it! Also explains the EMP medal from the multiplayer trailer.
Shake Appeal
Member
Quick and dirty summary of the sandbox discussion, please correct me if I heard or interpreted wrongly:
Compared to Halo 3, Reach FOV is wider, camera is lower (these Spartans are shorter than the Chief), movement speed is slightly slower (although the effect is offset by the camera height and FOV, and you still move faster than a real-world human athlete), jump height is lowered, melee lunge is shorter.
Two melees to beatdown (first pops the shield). If someone's shields are down, if you hit him, he will die.
As mentioned before, you are vulnerable when "showboating" with an execution. Interrupting someone's execution will be rewarded somehow.
It takes five shots to kill someone with a DMR (four to take down shields, and then a fifth headshot will kill, otherwise three further body shots are required to kill).
The magnum is exactly the same (it fires the same round), though the accuracy and rate of fire is obviously different. DMR fires slower, but is more accurate, especially at range.
A "very skilled" player with a magnum can beat a guy with an AR "quite consistently" toward the outside of the AR's range.
Rhythm is important to maintaing accuracy.
You will have fewer frag grenades (they are sparser on maps, urk says they "almost become a power weapon", in that you go looking for them), but they are more powerful, and have a "significantly larger" radius. They have a damage curve along that radius, compared to the "fall-off" they have in Halo 3.
Currently, although it may be subject to change, you can shoot dormant grenades and have them explode (they give an example of sniping a guy, then sniping the grenades he drops when his buddy runs by).
The throwing arc is closer to Halo 3 than to ODST (thank God).
The new grenade launcher has two "modes" (on the same trigger). If you fire normally, it acts like a regular frag grenade, more or less (it blows up directly if you hit someone, of course). If you fire and hold down the trigger, the grenade goes out into the world and stays cooked until you release the trigger, when it then explodes. This is very effective against things in the air, as this secondary fire is an EMP explosion, and can drop banshees (or jetpacking guys).
Fall damage is in currently, but to a smaller degree. It also stuns you if you hit hard.
The time before your shield starts to recharge is longer than Halo 3.
Your health recharges, but to thresholds (like Far Cry 2, for instance?).
They have "embraced" the differences between Spartans and Elites. Elites are larger in size (and so easier to hit), but have more health and more shields. The time-to-death, however, is very similar on the whole, especially for the AR. The DMR requires an additional shot to kill.
Elites exist only in certain modes. In the Arena in the beta, there will only be Spartan vs Spartan; in the full game there may be Elite vs Elite. There will never be Spartan vs Elite in the Arena.
Individual encounters between players are intentionally longer (people who already complain about Halo's encounters being too long are going to love this!).
The magnum is apparently the weapon that has changed most significantly compared to Halo 3 (not ODST). Sword combat is also seeing an overhaul.
There will be gametypes (playlists?) where armour abilities do not feature. "Halo is all about options." So you can probably switch them off in custom games too.
The most obvious change to the sandbox is from equipment to armour abilities, but the most significant is the "focusing" of the sandbox, so that weapons and abilities are more situational and specific in their roles, and no one thing dominates.
Aim assist is set "per weapon"; smaller reticles indicate accuracy-based weapons. You get "not a lot of help" with the sniper rifle, and it is "even more a weapon for adults".
Compared to Halo 3, Reach FOV is wider, camera is lower (these Spartans are shorter than the Chief), movement speed is slightly slower (although the effect is offset by the camera height and FOV, and you still move faster than a real-world human athlete), jump height is lowered, melee lunge is shorter.
Two melees to beatdown (first pops the shield). If someone's shields are down, if you hit him, he will die.
As mentioned before, you are vulnerable when "showboating" with an execution. Interrupting someone's execution will be rewarded somehow.
It takes five shots to kill someone with a DMR (four to take down shields, and then a fifth headshot will kill, otherwise three further body shots are required to kill).
The magnum is exactly the same (it fires the same round), though the accuracy and rate of fire is obviously different. DMR fires slower, but is more accurate, especially at range.
A "very skilled" player with a magnum can beat a guy with an AR "quite consistently" toward the outside of the AR's range.
Rhythm is important to maintaing accuracy.
You will have fewer frag grenades (they are sparser on maps, urk says they "almost become a power weapon", in that you go looking for them), but they are more powerful, and have a "significantly larger" radius. They have a damage curve along that radius, compared to the "fall-off" they have in Halo 3.
Currently, although it may be subject to change, you can shoot dormant grenades and have them explode (they give an example of sniping a guy, then sniping the grenades he drops when his buddy runs by).
The throwing arc is closer to Halo 3 than to ODST (thank God).
The new grenade launcher has two "modes" (on the same trigger). If you fire normally, it acts like a regular frag grenade, more or less (it blows up directly if you hit someone, of course). If you fire and hold down the trigger, the grenade goes out into the world and stays cooked until you release the trigger, when it then explodes. This is very effective against things in the air, as this secondary fire is an EMP explosion, and can drop banshees (or jetpacking guys).
Fall damage is in currently, but to a smaller degree. It also stuns you if you hit hard.
The time before your shield starts to recharge is longer than Halo 3.
Your health recharges, but to thresholds (like Far Cry 2, for instance?).
They have "embraced" the differences between Spartans and Elites. Elites are larger in size (and so easier to hit), but have more health and more shields. The time-to-death, however, is very similar on the whole, especially for the AR. The DMR requires an additional shot to kill.
Elites exist only in certain modes. In the Arena in the beta, there will only be Spartan vs Spartan; in the full game there may be Elite vs Elite. There will never be Spartan vs Elite in the Arena.
Individual encounters between players are intentionally longer (people who already complain about Halo's encounters being too long are going to love this!).
The magnum is apparently the weapon that has changed most significantly compared to Halo 3 (not ODST). Sword combat is also seeing an overhaul.
There will be gametypes (playlists?) where armour abilities do not feature. "Halo is all about options." So you can probably switch them off in custom games too.
The most obvious change to the sandbox is from equipment to armour abilities, but the most significant is the "focusing" of the sandbox, so that weapons and abilities are more situational and specific in their roles, and no one thing dominates.
Aim assist is set "per weapon"; smaller reticles indicate accuracy-based weapons. You get "not a lot of help" with the sniper rifle, and it is "even more a weapon for adults".
DiabolicalBagel
Member
On melee: "If the shields are not down and you hit him, you know he's not going to die"
I. Love. Sage. (and I guess everyone else involved... but I'm thanking the beard for this one)
I. Love. Sage. (and I guess everyone else involved... but I'm thanking the beard for this one)
Shake Appeal said:
I hope every Arena gametype has shields set super weak so the DMR can kill in 4 shots. Either that or I'm never leaving the MLG playlist whenever it appears. 4 shots just to take down shields? Urgh. I'm sure the AR will probably be the same as it is in Halo 3 too. Not liking the sound of that.