Happy 8 Year US Anniversary, Final Fantasy VII!

I've transposed about half the FFVII and Xenogears OSTs to guitar, just absolutely beautiful stuff. I could rant about the soundtrack alone for days on end. My favorite part of the game perhaps, and possibly my favorite game soundtrack of all time.

The theme that plays when you first take the train back to sector 7 really makes you feel confined and helpless, like the task before you is impossible. That whole first section in Midgar left me completely awestruck that a videogame could contain such a vivid detailed dialogue. It probably doesn't have as much impact now since practically every game nowadays has hours of long-winded dialogue and flashy cutscenes, but back then, it was like nothing I'd ever seen before.

FFVII pretty much redefined for me the type of experiences one could have while playing a video game, and that's forever how I'll remember it.
 
GaimeGuy said:
The funny thing is, I DO NOT remember hearing ANY hype, AT ALL, about FFVII. Maybe it was mentioned once or twice to me, but I sure as hell don't remember seeing any commercials, ads, or being at all interested in it. I did not experience any of the hype, I already played plenty of RPGs, as well. And when I picked it up in 1998, well, I experienced it. And I must say, it is THE single most overrated game in the history of this industry. The script was absolutely horrible, and the plot presented itself as a confusing mess at times in an attempt to look deep and mysterious. The graphics were horrible (yes, I said it, the graphics were horrible. That's what I thought, and that's STILL what I think). Mainly because of the SHITTIEST MODELS IN THE HISTORY OF GAMING.

I thought Aeris was a slut (still do), Cloud was stupid (especially when his real past is revealed.), and Sephiroth was just, well, from the first time you run into him on the Junon ship, and he says "Time...is...now," I knew he'd have stupid dialogue and act all evil and somewhat crazy like Kefka in FFVI.

It was a fun game, like all the FFs are, but when it comes to FFs, it's one of the worst.

Hey FUCK FACE. shut the hell up. Fucking naysaying everything. If you're gonna put a spin like that on everything, might as well just kill yourself now because when you die, none of the shit that happens gonna matter anyway!

:P
 
I don't even like FF7, but it actually *IS* possible to still talk about something you don't like without having to go into troll mode.

Hmm, I'm really wondering if that topic I was thinking about making would be viable from the replies to this topic.

This game was hyped beyond hell all over the place, Gaime. On TV, in magazines, surely all over the internet (didn't have it then), and word of mouth. I know I heard about it all the time in 96 and 97(-2005). Not even OoT had as much (but is close) hype as this game prior, during, and after release. You really do live under a rock if you weren't exposed to much (or any) hype with this game.

And considering where I live, me saying someone lives under a rock is very bad.
 
DarienA said:
and my mouth hit the FLOOR when Sephiroth cast Super Nova for the first time.

Ya Supernova is still cool.

GaimeGuy said:
I really think Aeris' theme is an average, even bad song.

Cause it is! I can't stand to listen to it solo minus the game.
 
They completely changed what Super Nova did in the American game, so I was expecting something else, and was very wtf with what they did; I was like ohshitohshit at it not being a simple damage-based attack that took 8 sec. Thought it was pretty cool to see (still my favorite summon in any game).

I wish I could make a video (actually I could eventually) of the original version of the attack. All it was originally was a shot of Jupiter, then the screen getting "photo burns" (like when film starts melting), then the party gets damaged some amount (not down to 1HP), or something like that.

So expecting that and not getting it, but something new, was very surprising and scared me (thought I was surely dead or it was an instant gameover).
 
GaimeGuy said:
The funny thing is, I DO NOT remember hearing ANY hype, AT ALL, about FFVII. Maybe it was mentioned once or twice to me, but I sure as hell don't remember seeing any commercials, ads, or being at all interested in it. I did not experience any of the hype, I already played plenty of RPGs, as well. And when I picked it up in 1998, well, I experienced it.

You couldn't have been too big into RPGs, despite your now confirmed bullshit comments, since the hype campaign for FFVII was unparalleled up until that time, and is still to this day one of the largest ever for an RPG.

"I really liked RPGs, played plenty! So what a surprise it was to me when I learned that one of most important/influential events in RPG history nearly passed me by without notice!"
 
I love Final Fantasy 7. When it came out I had an N64 and not enough money for a Playstation so I rented a Playstation and the game. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get my hands on a memory card, so I ended up playing all night long. I wasn't able to beat the game, but I eventually beat it with my friend. I later got a Playstation and played through the game again.

I still think that the characters and the magic system in the game is one of the best out of all the Final Fantasies, but man do the graphics suck. I remember thinking the graphics were bad even when the game first came out! :lol

edit: The hype train for FFVII was insane. In Vancouver they had buses where instead of having an ad in the bus, they bought every single ad in the bus, and put a giant ad all over the entire outside of the bus as well, completely covering it. It was everywhere.
 
Ancestor_of_Erdrick said:
I have that Versus Guide. I really don't see what the big deal about it is though (I have the Brady guide too) other than the fact that it gave precise recipes for Chocobo breeding.

I do like the layout, etc., but I might be forgetting something else important about it.
The big deal was that it was sooo much better than the Brady guide. It had stats/skills/items for all the monsters, told you how to get the limit breaks for each character as fast as possible, had numerous tips for easter eggs, and was generally written with care to make sure you never missed an optional side quest, item, or scene. And it did this all with no spoilers--which the Brady guide was full of.

Also had great art and only ran $10, with a free poster to boot! One of the best guides ever. :D
 
I still have the poster..I won an impromptu Goldeneye tournament at an EB the day the game was coming out (large crowd waiting for THE TRUCK), and they gave me the Versus Books guide, but I just took the poster..shoulda taken the guide. Oh well.

What's weird is some character is missing from it (Cid?), but everyone else is in it and Sephiroth.

Rpgamer has a .mov of the JP Super Nova, but it seems to be down/dead link now.

http://movies.rpgamer.com/ff/ff7/japnova.mov
 
Amir0x said:
You couldn't have been too big into RPGs, despite your now confirmed bullshit comments, since the hype campaign for FFVII was unparalleled up until that time, and is still to this day one of the largest ever for an RPG.

"I really liked RPGs, played plenty! So what a surprise it was to me when I learned that one of most important/influential events in RPG history nearly passed me by without notice!"
Yes, I did exaggerate. It's not that I didn't hear ANYTHING about it. But I, unlike a bunch of other people, was NOT saying "HOLY CRAP THIS IS GOING TO BE TEH BEST GAME EVER!!!!" from previews and stuff. Yes, I went "w00t a new FF! Looks pretty cool. Nice that they're putting videos for cutscenes!" No, I did not go "OMGOMGOMG THIS GAME WILL BE THE BEST PART OF MY LIFE."

What I meant was, I don't remember PERSONALLY feeling any extra hype compared to any other FF.

And believe it or not, no, I didn't see all the ads. Aside from the commercials, there was NOTHING of the ad campaign I was exposed to. Don't remember any print ads, and I was never around any buses (aside from the one which took me to and from school) or downtown Minneapolis, except for when I went to the Minnesota Timberwolves games with my father.

Maybe I did see a lot of ads, but I sure as hell don't remember them. But excuse me for raining on your precious FFVII party and giving a piece of my mind and sharing MY personal experience, as odd as it may sound to you. Heaven forbid I actually tell the truth about what I recall from the events leading up to the release of FFVII.

man.
 
Y2Kevbug11 said:
Thanks, I didn't already say that before. Reading is fun!

And please, you don't like it. We get it. Lots of the rest of us do and we are enjoying reminiscing about an 8 year old game without you coming in and trolling like a four year old.
You obviously didn't read my posts, then. I DO like it. I think it's a good, fun game. But as far as the Final Fantasy series goes, it's horrible, easily more critically flawed than almost any other game which is viewed as a classic since the 8-bit era began, and the status which everyone elevates it to, the drooling for a remake rather than a new entry in the series, and the excitement towards a bunch of spinoffs in a single entry in a series, is sheerly ridiculous in my opinion. ESPECIALLY the five spinoffs.

What if Capcom made five spinoffs of Megaman X2?

What if Nintendo made five spinoffs to The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time? The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: The Movie, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Action Game #1, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Action Game #2, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: The RPG (A traditional RPG), and lastly they release The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time: Horseback Archery for cell phones? I know that I, personally, would find it to be ridiculously excessive, and there's no way I'd be bitching for a remake, as much as I love the game.

It's one thing to spinoff a series. But it's another thing to spinoff a single entry in a series.
 
To this day, Cloud is the most complex and intriguing lead character Square has ever devised; the lifestream sequence wherein Tifa helps Cloud regain his memory is, to this day, the single most significant, influential and well conceived narrative scenes of any video game to ever see release.

I've had the privilege of playing every Final Fantasy upon release (except II, III and V of course, those came afterwards), and no other entry in the series matches the overall excellence that is VII (though many come close, because the series as a whole is just so damn good).
 
The problem is your opinion is just a load of shit. They're basically "I don't like its" without any real justification.

Moreover, there are enough hate FF7 threads, most of which you seem to participate in, without making a lets reminisce fondly about FF7 thread into another, FF7 is gay! NO YOU'RE GAY! thread.

So get outta here, this thread doesn't need your 'opinions'.
 
jiggle said:

I know this is days old, but thanks for posting those movies. I've been wanting to see them for the last 8 years but could never find them anywhere!

I was in the market with my brother when I flipped through a gaming magazine, and saw for the first time screens for FF7, I turned to him and said, "Looks like I'll be getting a Playstation instead of a Nintendo." Of course I did end up buying a N64, but I do honestly think Sony made it so big with PS because of FF7. I still have my FF7 poster of Midgar (from the opening cut-scene) hanging up!
 
FFVII was the first RPG I've ever played for more than 10 minutes. I bought Tobal, and tried out the FFVII demo, but still was not convinced that RPGs were for me. My friend bought FFVII, and then lent me his copy, and 10 hours later I was still playing it. I was blown away by how much content the game had. I promptly bought the game, and proceeded to play it 10-12 hours a day.

I ended up playing FFIV and FFVI afterwards.
 
Trying to get through FFIX again, got FFVII to do, but I REALLY want to replay VIII, but I can't find the damn game. Can't remember what I did with it.
 
Himuro said:
Gaime you have hurt my feelings!

lmfao I'm replaying FFVII. Cloud got picked by Don Corneo...AGAIN! :lol

I could never bring myself get the other scenerios either :lol by the by your avatar is too distracting :D
 
Zaptruder said:
The problem is your opinion is just a load of shit. They're basically "I don't like its" without any real justification.

Moreover, there are enough hate FF7 threads, most of which you seem to participate in, without making a lets reminisce fondly about FF7 thread into another, FF7 is gay! NO YOU'RE GAY! thread.

So get outta here, this thread doesn't need your 'opinions'.
:(


Here's some reasons.

I hated the models because of the blocky logo look.

I hated Aeris because she acted like a flirting slut all the time around everyone, and I hate how Square tried to force some kind of an idea that there was a love relationship between her and Cloud from the Temple of the Ancients up through her death (and even after it.), despite the fact that there was NO build up between the two characters excluding the brief scenes where they were alone together in midgar at the begining of the game.
"HEY CAIT SITH WHY DON'T YOU CHECK HOW COMPATIBLE CLOUD AND I ARE?"
"Wow you're a perfect match! Call me when it happens, Cloud!" <--- Cait's exact response.

Give me a break.

Have I mentioned how Square also tried (and failed miserably) to make Cait Sith's "death" a sad event, despite the fact that he was a stuffed animal being controlled by Reeve? The part where he trips and is extremely slow in getting back up, and where he starts talking to himself, saying things such as, "There may be many stuffed animals out there, but there's only one me!" is laughable. And then once he finishes his noble sacrifice, two minutes later...

"LOL HI GUYS I'M CAIT SITH 2!!! NOW LET'S GO TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH I TRICKED YOU GUYS!"

It was stupid that they let yuffie come along. After the Wutai sidequest.

Party: "Well thanks for stealing our materia, yuffie! Now let's go back!"
Yuffie: "K here's your materia back *randomly attaches materia to party members*"
Party & Yuffie: "K Let's go."

By the way, Why the HELL couldn't Square store who had what materia in memory or something? They do the same thing when the fork splits in the crater at the end of the game. Why screw up our materia setups?


I hated Cloud because of his stupid "YEAH I'M A BADASS. AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING" attitude at the begining, and then I hated his guts when I found out that he was nothing but a coward and a failure who stole the identity of someone who actually was successful and hid behind it.

Btw: The scene where Cloud pulls the Masamune out of his chest and throws sephiroth into the Nibelheim reactor is the most ridiculous scene I've ever seen in a video game. HE PULLS A SIX FOOT LONG SWORD OUT OF HIS CHEST, LIFTS A 200-POUND MAN ON THE OTHER END OF THE SWORD AND THROWS HIM SEVERAL FEET AWAY. What the FUCK?
 
GaimeGuy said:
:(


Here's some reasons.

I hated the models because of the blocky logo look.

I hated Aeris because she acted like a flirting slut all the time around everyone, and I hate how Square tried to force some kind of an idea that there was a love relationship between her and Cloud from the Temple of the Ancients up through her death (and even after it.), despite the fact that there was NO build up between the two characters excluding the brief scenes where they were alone together in midgar at the begining of the game.
"HEY CAIT SITH WHY DON'T YOU CHECK HOW COMPATIBLE CLOUD AND I ARE?"
"Wow you're a perfect match! Call me when it happens, Cloud!" <--- Cait's exact response.

Give me a break.

Have I mentioned how Square also tried (and failed miserably) to make Cait Sith's "death" a sad event, despite the fact that he was a stuffed animal being controlled by Reeve? The part where he trips and is extremely slow in getting back up, and where he starts talking to himself, saying things such as, "There may be many stuffed animals out there, but there's only one me!" is laughable. And then once he finishes his noble sacrifice, two minutes later...

"LOL HI GUYS I'M CAIT SITH 2!!! NOW LET'S GO TOGETHER EVEN THOUGH I TRICKED YOU GUYS!"

It was stupid that they let yuffie come along. After the Wutai sidequest.

Party: "Well thanks for stealing our materia, yuffie! Now let's go back!"
Yuffie: "K here's your materia back *randomly attaches materia to party members*"
Party & Yuffie: "K Let's go."

By the way, Why the HELL couldn't Square store who had what materia in memory or something? They do the same thing when the fork splits in the crater at the end of the game. Why screw up our materia setups?


I hated Cloud because of his stupid "YEAH I'M A BADASS. AND I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING" attitude at the begining, and then I hated his guts when I found out that he was nothing but a coward and a failure who stole the identity of someone who actually was successful and hid behind it.

Btw: The scene where Cloud pulls the Masamune out of his chest and throws sephiroth into the Nibelheim reactor is the most ridiculous scene I've ever seen in a video game. HE PULLS A SIX FOOT LONG SWORD OUT OF HIS CHEST, LIFTS A 200-POUND MAN ON THE OTHER END OF THE SWORD AND THROWS HIM SEVERAL FEET AWAY. What the FUCK?

For fucks sake. Seriously. Just shut the hell up. Your hates are just the rambling of some asstard that WANTS to hate something. If you can't overlook shit like that, you might as well rant and rave about... "FUCKING BULLSHIT! THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS MAGIC! WHO THE HELL WOULD BUILD A GIGANTIC MAKO REACTOR?! HELLO! NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY! OMG! A GIRL FIGHTS IN HAND TO HAND COMBAT?! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE MALE UPPER BODY STRENGTH IS 6 TIMES GREATER THAN A FEMALES UPPER BODY STRENGTH!"

Idiot.
 
GaimeGuy said:
Party: "Well thanks for stealing our materia, yuffie! Now let's go back!"
Yuffie: "K here's your materia back *randomly attaches materia to party members*"
Party & Yuffie: "K Let's go."

By the way, Why the HELL couldn't Square store who had what materia in memory or something? They do the same thing when the fork splits in the crater at the end of the game. Why screw up our materia setups?

I always figured that she stole them so fast, that she didn't know who had what equipped.
Don't equip a lot/remember what was equipped, and it isn't so bad.

side response: lol Gaime, watch where you tread, you are very outnumbered in this topic (note no one has told me to fuck off yet).
 
Zaptruder said:
For fucks sake. Seriously. Just shut the hell up. Your hates are just the rambling of some asstard that WANTS to hate something. If you can't overlook shit like that, you might as well rant and rave about... "FUCKING BULLSHIT! THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS MAGIC! WHO THE HELL WOULD BUILD A GIGANTIC MAKO REACTOR?! HELLO! NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY! OMG! A GIRL FIGHTS IN HAND TO HAND COMBAT?! EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE MALE UPPER BODY STRENGTH IS 6 TIMES GREATER THAN A FEMALES UPPER BODY STRENGTH!"

Idiot.
Sorry for insulting your god.
 
Prince of Space said:
FFVII was decent for its time, but it's disgustingly overrated now.

Quoted for truth. I liked it at the time, but it's just way way overrated. The way people demand a remake and drool over pics of that terrible looking Advent Children (swear they just copy and pasted the same model for everyone in it, men and women) makes me wish it never existed in the first place.
 
Oh the memories, my friend calling me up who happened to be farther in the game then me and yelling
OMG SEPHEROTH FUCKING STABS AERIS AND KILLS HER!!
I have never been more inclined to jump in my car and drive two states away to beat a best friends ass before and never have since but just that once I picked up my car keys and almost made it out the driveway. :lol
 
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