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[Formless]

ESP still makes copies of American guitars in Japan under the Edwards brand

 

[Brian_FETO]

Here's Atlas Rise live in Bogota.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHOrR2XvEcU

Yeah I was watching this now. I actually like the song quite a bit more having heard it in a live context (despite it not being as tight as their usual live performances, it's new whatever)

I'm optimistic about the album, I enjoyed Death Magnetic when it came out. Can't say I've had any desire to listen to it since, but I don't really listen to Metallica much anymore anyways....at a certain point you've heard the songs enough I guess lol.

 

[Mengy]

I'm surprised, but I actually really like all three songs released so far. I think I'm looking forward to this album. O_O

I still work out to old Metallica all the time, but their past few albums have not been my favorites. This one...seems much better so far.

 

[Kuros]

ESP still makes copies of American guitars in Japan under the Edwards brand

Yep. You have to import them if you want them. Their Les Pauls are better/as good as the real thing depending on model.

 

[borghe]

hardwired is good. not great, but it could have appeared as a low point on like AJFA.

moth to flame and Atlas Rise are both pretty boring.

I'll grant metallica... at least they are finally doing thrash for the first time since AJFA.. but outside of Hardwired it is pretty mediocre. though still slightly more listenable than anything after AJFA

 

[Killer Queen]

hardwired is good. not great, but it could have appeared as a low point on like AJFA.

moth to flame and Atlas Rise are both pretty boring.

I'll grant metallica... at least they are finally doing thrash for the first time since AJFA.. but outside of Hardwired it is pretty mediocre. though still slightly more listenable than anything after AJFA

A lot of reviews compare the album to AJFA and Black. So maybe it might grab your interest.

 

[borghe]

A lot of reviews compare the album to AJFA and Black. So maybe it might grab your interest.

except that I don't like Black. at all. Not a single note on it was thrash. It was ok-ish hard rock at best.

I don't really have high expectations for the album.. just noted that they seem to be going back to thrash.. which is clever. will check it out when it hits streaming.

 

[Killer Queen]

except that I don't like Black. at all. Not a single note on it was thrash. It was ok-ish hard rock at best.

I don't really have high expectations for the album.. just noted that they seem to be going back to thrash.. which is clever. will check it out when it hits streaming.

The general consensus from what I've seen is that it takes the groove from Black and Load/Reload and makes it heavier, more riff oriented and metal. There aren't going to be many more thrashy tracks on the album outside of the closer "Spit out the bone" (which is supposed to be the most intense) but most of the tracks sit at a mid tempo with only two to three being on the simple side "Am I Savage?" "Now That We're Dead" "Hardwired" with the album borrowing some progressive elements from AJFA in the way riffs are put together.

The production is allegedly really good on the album too so maybe that's where the black album comparisons come from, that and Dream No More being similar to Sad But True.

But yeah take that as you will.

 

[borghe]

ah, k. Guess I was right to remain cautious. Well I'll definitely look forward maybe to spit out the bone. and I do like Hardwired.. well again, at least more than anything they've done since AJFA..

 

[Ristifer]

ah, k. Guess I was right to remain cautious. Well I'll definitely look forward maybe to spit out the bone. and I do like Hardwired.. well again, at least more than anything they've done since AJFA..

You didn't like All Nightmare Long or My Apocalypse from Death Magnetic at all? They were fairly thrashy tunes.

 

[Kuros]

Yeah I was trying to find a pic of his explorer from the 80s but couldnt get a good pic. Thanks!

Found a recent pic. He still has it

Edit apparently he had two. One "More Beer" and another "So What". The "So What" was used to record RTL.

 

[strafer]

I've always been a fan of James Iron Cross.

 

[Formless]

I've always been a fan of James Iron Cross.

I like it except two toggle switches are kinda dumb (one doesn't do anything). I suppose you could mod it to be a killswitch or something.

 

[Kaladin]

Apparently Metallica are making a video for every song on this album which is kind of awesome.

 

[Creamium]

Moth and Atlas hold up really well on repeated listens, addicted to these songs.

 

[Kuros]

I like it except two toggle switches are kinda dumb (one doesn't do anything). I suppose you could mod it to be a killswitch or something.

Yeah it's a standard Les Paul that was repainted but he doesn't like the switch up top so had one put in one of the pot positions.

 

[Wiseblood]

Yeah it's a standard Les Paul that was repainted but he doesn't like the switch up top so had one put in one of the pot positions.

But the dumb thing is his Iron Cross ESP Eclipse guitars still have the top switch that doesn't do anything. Apparently James thought it didn't look right without the switch up top.

 

[Kuros]

But the dumb thing is his Iron Cross ESP Eclipse guitars still have the top switch that doesn't do anything. Apparently James thought it didn't look right without the switch up top.

That is indeed very silly.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Hardwired and Moth are both too fucking long, and kinda boring to boot. Atlas is pretty damn decent, but still too damn long. I expect another meh to decent album, like Death Magnetic.

 

[The perfect Dark]

I don't understand people who say "I don't like this album because no thrash" or "I don't like this album because it doesn't sound oldschool"...
I mean...we 're not living in the 80's anymore and Metallica realized it since 1990. They evolved. Each record is special and sounds different (except Load / Reload which is pretty much one great album).

Other bands didn't evolve and try to make the same music they did 30 years ago. And that is fucking terrible....actually it's pretty sad, imo.

I love the old stuff but get over it. Be happy that KEA, RTL, MOP and AJFA exist but you just have to accept that this band is talented and doesn't want to make the same music for 30 years.

 

[Killer Queen]

Hardwired and Moth are both too fucking long, and kinda boring to boot. Atlas is pretty damn decent, but still too damn long. I expect another meh to decent album, like Death Magnetic.

If you don't like long songs you're fucked

Spoiler

shit outta luck

because Hardwired

Spoiler

...to self destruct

is all long songs from like 6-8 minutes.

It's considered to be more focused than Death Magnetic and supposedly has great production (mix was only finished very recently) so take that as you will. I personally don't really feel that either Moth or Atlas are too long and its something Metallica has literally always had a problem with. Exhibit A:
The Thing That Should Not Be(seven minutes long)

I don't understand people who say "I don't like this album because no thrash" or "I don't like this album because it doesn't sound oldschool"...
I mean...we 're not living in the 80's anymore and Metallica realized it since 1990. They evolved. Each record is special and sounds different (except Load / Reload which is pretty much one great album).

Other bands didn't evolve and try to make the same music they did 30 years ago. And that is fucking terrible....actually it's pretty sad, imo.

I love the old stuff but get over it. Be happy that KEA, RTL, MOP and AJFA exist but you just have to accept that this band is talented and doesn't want to make the same music for 30 years.

Exact same feelings. Been listening to lots of Load/Reload lately (all day today and yesterday and right this second) and they're incredible albums.

 

[Megasoum]

Great long form interview with James and Lars in Billboard

http://www.billboard.com/articles/n...allica-hardwired-to-self-destruct-cover-story

 

[The perfect Dark]

If you don't like long songs you're fucked

Spoiler

shit outta luck

because Hardwired

Spoiler

...to self destruct

is all long songs from like 6-8 minutes.

It's considered to be more focused than Death Magnetic and supposedly has great production (mix was only finished very recently) so take that as you will. I personally don't really feel that either Moth or Atlas are too long and its something Metallica has literally always had a problem with. Exhibit A:
The Thing That Should Not Be(seven minutes long)



Exact same feelings. Been listening to lots of Load/Reload lately (all day today and yesterday and right this second) and they're incredible albums.

Yes Load/Reload are amazing. so many great songs...and they kick ass when played live. I love the jam (Bad Seed) at the beginning of Cunning Stunts. such a killer riff.
Devil's dance is awesome, too. Or fixxer, Bleeding me, Hero of the day, Until it sleeps, Ain't my bitch, King Nothing, Ronnie, Carpe Diem, Low man's Lyric, Carpe Diem, Fuel...

edit: I actually really want to start a new thread about how great these albums are just to see the backfire from oldschool fans, lol. Well, I'm an oldschool fan, too but you know...I still love them.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

If you don't like long songs you're fucked

Spoiler

shit outta luck

because Hardwired

Spoiler

...to self destruct

is all long songs from like 6-8 minutes.

It's considered to be more focused than Death Magnetic and supposedly has great production (mix was only finished very recently) so take that as you will. I personally don't really feel that either Moth or Atlas are too long and its something Metallica has literally always had a problem with. Exhibit A:
The Thing That Should Not Be(seven minutes long)

I don't mind long songs, as long as they have something to keep my attention (and Thing is great BTW). Hardwired and Moth just doesn't have that. It's kinda the same problem I had with Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death album, long, boring songs that just drone on and on and on and on without really going anywhere.

 

[The perfect Dark]

I don't mind long songs, as long as they have something to keep my attention (and Thing is great BTW). Hardwired and Moth just doesn't have that. It's kinda the same problem I had with Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death album, long, boring songs that just drone on and on and on and on without really going anywhere.

If they would release "The thing that should not be" today...then everyone would think it's boring and too long.

 

[cryptosporidium]

I honestly thought Atlas rise was terrible. The actual riffs/melodies are terrible imo. Hopefully the rest of the album is good, I liked hardwired

 

[CFMOORE!]

I've always been a fan of James Iron Cross.

i am pissed the true Gibson sig model based on this didn't go anywhere due to Gibson being slow as fuck. There were prototypes being played by James in the DM recording session vids. Then we ended up with the overpriced ESP version.

 

[Killer Queen]

I don't mind long songs, as long as they have something to keep my attention (and Thing is great BTW). Hardwired and Moth just doesn't have that. It's kinda the same problem I had with Maiden's A Matter of Life and Death album, long, boring songs that just drone on and on and on and on without really going anywhere.

I don't understand. The riffs and melodies in moth and Atlas are more intricate and complex than thing, which literally just drones on and on for 7 minutes, anything that needed to be said or done in that track could've been done in 3-4 and even then neither moth or Atlas are that long. Both sit around 6 and still do far more than TTTSNB.

Yes Load/Reload are amazing. so many great songs...and they kick ass when played live. I love the jam (Bad Seed) at the beginning of Cunning Stunts. such a killer riff.
Devil's dance is awesome, too. Or fixxer, Bleeding me, Hero of the day, Until it sleeps, Ain't my bitch, King Nothing, Ronnie, Carpe Diem, Low man's Lyric, Carpe Diem, Fuel...

edit: I actually really want to start a new thread about how great these albums are just to see the backfire from oldschool fans, lol. Well, I'm an oldschool fan, too but you know...I still love them.

Was literally thinking the same thing.

 

[The perfect Dark]

I don't understand. The riffs and melodies in moth and Atlas are more intricate and complex than thing, which literally just drones on and on for 7 minutes, anything that needed to be said or done in that track could've been done in 3-4 and even then neither moth or Atlas are that long. Both sit around 6 and still do far more than TTTSNB.

Was literally thinking the same thing.

Don't do it...the thread will be a bloodbath, lol. Which is a shame honestly.

I don't have any problems with the length of their songs btw. Except maybe for St.anger because there are no solos. But even St. Anger had great songs and amazing riffs.

 

[Killer Queen]

Don't do it...the thread will be a bloodbath, lol. Which is a shame honestly.

I don't have any problems with the length of their songs btw. Except maybe for St.anger because there are no solos. But even St. Anger had great songs and amazing riffs.

The only Metallica songs that are too long are The Thing and like, half of AJFA. There are no reasons for these tracks to be 8-9 minutes long. The title track and frayed being the worst offender, frayed more so because it's more repetitive but neither are as bad as thing. And I like that song lol.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I don't understand. The riffs and melodies in moth and Atlas are more intricate and complex than thing, which literally just drones on and on for 7 minutes, anything that needed to be said or done in that track could've been done in 3-4 and even then neither moth or Atlas are that long. Both sit around 6 and still do far more than TTTSNB.

How intricate the riff is matters little to me if there's nothing that gets me hooked and keeps my attention. Again, A Matter of Life and Death has some stuff that is way more complex and proggy than what Maiden did in the 80s. It's still a shit album and probably the worst Maiden album IMO, simply because it's overtly long, droning and boring.

 

[Killer Queen]

How intricate the riff is matters little to me if there's nothing that gets me hooked and keeps my attention. Again, A Matter of Life and Death has some stuff that is way more complex and proggy than what Maiden did in the 80s. It's still a shit album and probably the worst Maiden album IMO.

I'm not going to tell you that you should like this or that because, that's up to you but the point I'm trying to get across is more intricate songs warrant longer run times because they have more to do, songs that repeat the same riff for 7 minutes do not need to be that long because anything that's done in those seven minutes can be done in 3 or four which is partially why Hardwired is 3 and Atlas is 6. Atlas has far more intricate sections that need time to flourish, Hardwired doesn't so it's kind of silly to complain that these songs are too long, especially when it's a staple of their career and when you forgive the prime offender of being repetitive for the same thing.

 

[The perfect Dark]

The only Metallica songs that are too long are The Thing and like, half of AJFA. There are no reasons for these tracks to be 8-9 minutes long. The title track and frayed being the worst offender, frayed more so because it's more repetitive but neither are as bad as thing. And I like that song lol.

That's funny because I really like the length of AJFA (the song). It's just so complex and has a weird...I don't know....groove? I love this track. Frayed is awesome but I agree that it's a bit too long. I like The Thing but I agree...it's probably the only song by Metallica that is too long..like...really. It's good but it goes on forever. One of the weakest songs on MOP, imo.
But when we're talking about MOP...Leper Messiah...one of the most underrated songs.

 

[Killer Queen]

That's funny because I really like the length of AJFA (the song). It's just so complex and has a weird...I don't know....groove? I love this track. Frayed is awesome but I agree that it's a bit too long. I like The Thing but I agree...it's probably the only song by Metallica that is too long..like...really. It's good but it goes on forever. One of the weakest songs on MOP, imo.
But when we're talking about MOP...Leper Messiah...one of the most underrated songs.

If thing was like 4 minutes MoP would be perfect. It's still my favorite Metallica album, as for the AJFA song I dunno, I've only ever gotten through it a couple times, like I listen to longer songs (The Last Baron by Mastodon is 12 minutes long) but its progressive enough to be 3 different songs all in itself, sometimes I'll just listen to sections of it because of that. Leper Messiah is great though, especially thematically, but my favorite underrated is Damage Inc, one of if not the most aggressive thing they've ever done and I'm hyped as hell to know that Spit out the bone is similar.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I'm not going to tell you that you should like this or that because, that's up to you but the point I'm trying to get across is more intricate songs warrant longer run times because they have more to do, songs that repeat the same riff for 7 minutes do not need to be that long because anything that's done in those seven minutes can be done in 3 or four which is partially why Hardwired is 3 and Atlas is 6. Atlas has far more intricate sections that need time to flourish, Hardwired doesn't so it's kind of silly to complain that these songs are too long, especially when it's a staple of their career and when you forgive the prime offender of being repetitive for the same thing.

Oh, right, I see your point. Absolutely, if it can be done in 3 minutes instead of 7, it should be done in 3. Goes for AJFA too, that album just needlessly drags on.

As for being a staple for their career, again I don't mind their longer songs like Thing, Orion, Sanitarium, Creeping Death or Master of Puppets as they manage to hold my attention, whereas the songs from Hardwired so far do not. They aren't bad songs, they just feel needlessly long to me, just like AJFA. Trim the fat.

 

[The perfect Dark]

If thing was like 4 minutes MoP would be perfect. It's still my favorite Metallica album, as for the AJFA song I dunno, I've only ever gotten through it a couple times, like I listen to longer songs (The Last Baron by Mastodon is 12 minutes long) but its progressive enough to be 3 different songs all in itself, sometimes I'll just listen to sections of it because of that. Leper Messiah is great though, especially thematically, but my favorite underrated is Damage Inc, one of if not the most aggressive thing they've ever done and I'm hyped as hell to know that Spit out the bone is similar.

Damage Inc. is definitely one of their best songs. But is it underrated? Maybe...they don't play it live very often. It's great, I LOVE it.
I really hope there are more slow and melodic intros to their songs on Hardwired. Maybe it's weird but I love the intros to Battery, Blackened, etc
It's starts so nice and peaceful and...BAM...fuck it all

And...another opinion...and I'm very sure that I'm in the minority again (lol): I love the wah wah. Yes..I love it. Maybe that's because I like Load and Reload but...I don't know. I can't get enough of it.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

And...another opinion...and I'm very sure that I'm in the minority again (lol): I love the wah wah. Yes..I love it. Maybe that's because I like Load and Reload but...I don't know. I can't get enough of it.

I love Load and ReLoad, and consider those two the best post-MoP albums, but the wah wah got a little worn out. Kirk was pumping that wah wah like an 18 year old pumping his girlfriend.

 

[Killer Queen]

Damage Inc. is definitely one of their best songs. But is it underrated? Maybe...they don't play it live very often. It's great, I LOVE it.
I really hope there are more slow and melodic intros to their songs on Hardwired. Maybe it's weird but I love the intros to Battery, Blackened, etc
It's starts so nice and peaceful and...BAM...fuck it all

And...another opinion...and I'm very sure that I'm in the minority again (lol): I love the wah wah. Yes..I love it. Maybe that's because I like Load and Reload but...I don't know. I can't get enough of it.

I never see anyone talking about Damage so I just assume people don't care all that much for it. There are some cool melodic intros on Hardwired from what I read, I'll grab the reddit post again and repost it for a new page. As for wah, I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it as much as others do.

Oh, right, I see your point. Absolutely, if it can be done in 3 minutes instead of 7, it should be done in 3. Goes for AJFA too, that album just needlessly drags on.

As for being a staple for their career, again I don't mind their longer songs like Thing, Orion, Sanitarium, Creeping Death or Master of Puppets as they manage to hold my attention, whereas the songs from Hardwired so far do not. They aren't bad songs, they just feel needlessly long to me, just like AJFA. Trim the fat.

I think the songs you listed outside of thing work because they progress and change and have contrasting sections or something to break it up like Master has the first solo and melody section, sanitarium changes completely near its tail end and Creeping has the "Die!" section which is sandwiched between two solo sections that doesn't make it feel monotonous. Orion progresses quite a bit too through its run time too.

But yeah all the songs on Hardwired are pretty long, Hardwired was the shortest IIRC and the second shortest is in the upper 5min range. Coming off of Death Magnetic it doesn't bother me, it's simplified yet intricate enough to keep my attention through its run time with catchy lyric hooks that has me singing along whereas Death Magnetic didn't have much of that in addition to throwing stuff in your face the more the songs progressed just because they could, I liked the more focused approach.

 

[Killer Queen]

Sorry for double post but didn't want the other one being too long.

Now That We're Dead:A Cobain-esque witty, louche, leering lightly gothic zombie love song with killer riffs, a subdued pace, tribal gallping and “legit” drum work alongside some groove oriented Iommi styled guitar work. The song also features a lush instrumental, harmonious sections and a Dio-esque melody in the bridge before speeding up a bit near the finish line. The song structure is simple and its emphasized across multiple reviews as possibly being a new fan favorite as its likened to ‘Black Album’ and ‘Enter Sandman’ but with a bit more force and thrash. Lyrical Snippet: “Now that we’re dead, my dear we can be together”

Dream No More: A stomping, fat, mid-tempo dark and twisted Cthulu themed track full of rich imagery of black seas, torture and damnation seemingly in vein of “The Thing that should not be” with its sluggish musical background and also not unlike “Sad But True” but with a slow, gloomy and groove oriented intro. A tough monster of a track, incredibly weighty with some vocals even sounding disoriented. Lyrical Snippet: “Cthulu awaken! Wake, dreaming no more” (Hetfield sounds monster like here) “You turn to stone, cannot look away!” “You turn to stone-madness, they say Cthulu awaken!”

Halo On Fire: A brooding ‘One’ like power ballad that’s emotionally charged and epic that opens with clean vocals, and a melodic and soft guitar riff before picking up in its latter half with super-fast guitar solos, molten melodrama and heavy guitar work. Thick grooves, pounding drums and guitars are not lacking on this track. It also has more intricate sections and twists than any other song on the album. Lyrically it’s very powerful and catchy with a simplistic chorus. Lyrical snippet: “Oh halo on fire, the midnight knows it well” “Hello darkness, say goodbye”

Confusion: A song not thematically unlike One or Disposable Heroes, musically its stands among Disposable Heroes and Death Magnetic. The lyrics deal with war and post-traumatic stress disorder. A seven minute growling and gloomy fast track complete with bombastic riffs, marching drums and “vintage” riffs in vein of “Am I Evil”. Kirk’s guitar work is likened to his work on “AJFA”. Lyrical Snippet: “Confusion, all sanity is now beyond me. My life, the war that never ends” “Coming home, pieces do not fit anymore. Make it go away, please make it go away”

ManUnKind: The only track where Rob Trujillo is given writing credits with a riff that has some Iron Maiden essence and a bassline introduction that’s reminiscent of “Load/Reload” (In a good way). A more progressive track complete with an odd time signature and likened to “AJFA” and ‘Black Album’ with many starts and stops. It also has a tinge of hard rock groove that’s also reminiscent of the “Load/Reload” era. ‘The God that failed’ ‘My friend Misery’ are works in Metallica’s catalogue that are referenced alongside an artist like “Rage Against the Machine”. There are chunky, jazz like staccato riffs and the solo is ‘rhythmically trickled”. It’s a very special song. The song is all about measuring mankind’s cruel nature. Lyrical Snippet: “I’ve become hostage to my mind, I’ve left myself behind, faith in manUNkind!”

Here Comes Revenge:A biblical mid-tempo revenge anthem with changing dynamics and a riff reminiscent of “Harvester of Sorrow” and a pre chorus among the likes of “Leper Messiah” that later picks up the pace early Metallica style. Again likened to “AJFA” and “Black Album”. A song that deal with the relationship between Cain and Abel and thus follows are themes of revenge, forgiveness and the eye for an eye mentality. James adopts an aggressive vocal style for this track and the song doesn’t reach its conclusion without a great solo. Lyrical snippet: “You ask for forgiveness/I always ask for revenge” “He was Abel, I was Cain” “Here comes revenge, just for you. Revenge you can not undo”

Am I Savage: A high point of the album that’s been heavily praised, opening with a clean intro before becoming a gloriously ugly, scouring, relentless skull fucker (Direct quote, I promise) that heavily channels Black Sabbath. Groovey, but not complicated and without any dramatic twists, just uncompromisingly heavy and yet still Metallica at their most melodic. Lyrical Snippet: “Am I Savage? Scratching at the door. I don’t recognize you anymore”

Murder One: Approaching the end of the expansive album comes a tribute to Lemmy that uses Motorhead titles for lyrics, another mid-tempo song (To TeamRock’s displeasure) that sounds like it could’ve been a collaboration between Motorhead and Metallica. Riffs O’ plenty. Lyrical Snippet: “The man in black, born to lose” “Aces wild, aces high, all the aces till you die” “Murder all, murder one, gimme murder, second class to none” “Till the end, finished living to win”

Spit Out the Bone: The unrelenting conclusion to “Hardwired…To Self-Destruct” closes the door the way the titular track hardwired opened it, fast and without mercy. Running alongside ‘Damage Inc’ and ‘Battery’ the dystopian thrash metal track stops for no one while taking multiple unexpected turns. Pure up tempo speed metal complete with drums that mimic automatic weaponry, breakneck solos and a youthful Hetfield that harkens back to the days of “Kill Em All” and Kill Em All they will indeed as the song prophesizes mankind’s extinction by machine. Lyrical Snippet: “Finally cure the earth of man. Exterminate, speeding up the revolution. Long live machine, the future supreme. Man overthrown, Spit out the bone”

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I never see anyone talking about Damage so I just assume people don't care all that much for it. There are some cool melodic intros on Hardwired from what I read, I'll grab the reddit post again and repost it for a new page. As for wah, I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it as much as others do.

I think the songs you listed outside of thing work because they progress and change and have contrasting sections or something to break it up like Master has the first solo and melody section, sanitarium changes completely near its tail end and Creeping has the "Die!" section which is sandwiched between two solo sections that doesn't make it feel monotonous. Orion progresses quite a bit too through its run time too.

But yeah all the songs on Hardwired are pretty long, Hardwired was the shortest IIRC and the second shortest is in the upper 5min range. Coming off of Death Magnetic it doesn't bother me, it's simplified yet intricate enough to keep my attention through its run time with catchy lyric hooks that has me singing along whereas Death Magnetic didn't have much of that in addition to throwing stuff in your face the more the songs progressed just because they could, I liked the more focused approach.

Damage is great, and a killer way to end the album. Had they dropped Disposable Heroes, MoP would have been flawless. Not a bad song, just overtly long, boring and ultimately forgettable.

I liked Death Magnetic well enough even though it never got better than OK to good. Although I should like Hardwired more than DM since Hardwired is more thrashy, I suspect I'll actually end up liking it less, heh.

Edit: OK, those descriptions of the rest of the songs do have me intrigued. I'll check out the album when it drops. And at least it will never be as bad as St. Anger and Lulu.

 

[The perfect Dark]

I love Load and ReLoad, and consider those two the best post-MoP albums, but the wah wah got a little worn out. Kirk was pumping that wah wah like an 18 year old pumping his girlfriend.

LMAO. If that's the case I definitely understand why he loves his wah.

I never see anyone talking about Damage so I just assume people don't care all that much for it. There are some cool melodic intros on Hardwired from what I read, I'll grab the reddit post again and repost it for a new page. As for wah, I don't love it but I definitely don't hate it as much as others do.

I think the songs you listed outside of thing work because they progress and change and have contrasting sections or something to break it up like Master has the first solo and melody section, sanitarium changes completely near its tail end and Creeping has the "Die!" section which is sandwiched between two solo sections that doesn't make it feel monotonous. Orion progresses quite a bit too through its run time too.

But yeah all the songs on Hardwired are pretty long, Hardwired was the shortest IIRC and the second shortest is in the upper 5min range. Coming off of Death Magnetic it doesn't bother me, it's simplified yet intricate enough to keep my attention through its run time with catchy lyric hooks that has me singing along whereas Death Magnetic didn't have much of that in addition to throwing stuff in your face the more the songs progressed just because they could, I liked the more focused approach.

If you grew up with Metallica you already got used to the song lengths. Load/Reload have probably the most songs under six minutes. The black album has some short songs, too. But...to me it's seems like a contrast if you want "old school Metallica" and complain about the length of their songs because....that's just a typical Metallica song. It's either short (opener or the last song on the album) or pretty long.
As I said Load and Reload are probably the exception

edit2: And yeah, Struggle within, baby. another underrated song.

edit: @ Killer Queen: This sounds really awesome. I can't wait...wow.

 

[Killer Queen]

Damage is great, and a killer way to end the album. Had they dropped Disposable Heroes, MoP would have been flawless. Not a bad song, just overtly long, boring and ultimately forgettable.

I liked Death Magnetic well enough even though it never got better than OK to good. Although I should like Hardwired more than DM since Hardwired is more thrashy, I suspect I'll actually end up liking it less, heh.

I'm personally offended. I love that song to death.
"You will do!
What I say!
When I say!
Back to the front!"
Combined with the great imagery of war. You're not alone on feeling it's too long, but in this case I feel it works because to me it feels like the end of each verse is the end of a battle and the character only gets more scared and tired before being sent back to the front.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

LMAO. If that's the case I definitely understand why he loves his wah.

He put his wah in the wah wah.

Even at the time Load and ReLoad were fresh people were complaining about the wah wah, haha.

 

[metsallica]

Dropped Disposable Heroes?!?!??!!!?!??! WHAT

 

[The perfect Dark]

Wait....wait....WAIT....If they dropped Disposable Heroes?......wait...WAIT....WHAT
I just...I....this is the best mindfuck since Twin Peaks.

what am I reading.




Weren't people complaining about the Wah Wah on the black album?

Man, I need to listen to Holier than thou now.

 

[Killer Queen]

LMAO. If that's the case I definitely understand why he loves his wah.



If you grew up with Metallica you already got used to the song lengths. Load/Reload have probably the most songs under six minutes. The black album has some short songs, too. But...to me it's seems like a contrast if you want "old school Metallica" and complain about the length of their songs because....that's just a typical Metallica song. It's either short (opener or the last song on the album) or pretty long.
As I said Load and Reload are probably the exception

edit2: And yeah, Struggle within, baby. another underrated song.

edit: @ Killer Queen: This sounds really awesome. I can't wait...wow.

I don't really mind long songs, though a lot of reviewers complained. It's just all about how you use the time. Like songs on Kill Em All are long, but they do enough to keep my attention. I just don't need to hear the same riff for seven minutes lol.

But on to Hardwired yeah my hype is through the roof, most excited for Now That We're Dead personally. Need a new Metallica anthem and it sounds so god damn silly that it makes me smile. Also excited for Here Comes Revenge and Am I Savage with Spit Out the Bone. Not sure if I'm going to listen to the album straight through first or skip to what I'm most excited for but I sure am hyped.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Dropped Disposable Heroes?!?!??!!!?!??! WHAT

Easily the one song I'll always skip on MoP, just like I'll always skip Escape on RtL.

As for the rest of the songs from Hardwired, I'm most excited about that Lemmy tribute, because Lemmy.

 

[Killer Queen]

Easily the one song I'll always skip on MoP, just like I'll always skip Escape on RtL.

As for the rest of the songs from Hardwired, I'm most excited about that Lemmy tribute, because Lemmy.

From what I've seen its been the most divisive track in reviews and opinions, some love it some think it's cheesy, one thought it was the worst track on the album so I'm not too sure what to think. I'll save it for my full listen through. It definitely sounds fun though. The ones that got the most praise by far were Now That We're Dead, Am I Savage and Spit Out the Bone, but even then some didn't like the first, too "pop-ish" apparently, but people feel similarly about Load and Reload which I love, so that only reinforces my excitement.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Easily the one song I'll always skip on MoP, just like I'll always skip Escape on RtL.

As for the rest of the songs from Hardwired, I'm most excited about that Lemmy tribute, because Lemmy.

But Escape is the hidden gem....

@ Killer Queen: I can't wait for Halo on Fire. I know there's no ballad but it's probably the song with the most melodic parts.
Melodic Metallica is best Metallica
But...to be honest...Moth into Flame and Atlas, Rise! are melodic, too. Man, I just can't wait for this album. So far this sounds like a mix of RTL, MOP and the Black Album ....with the groove of Load/ Reload. Fucking hell..this could be the best thing ever, lol.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

But Escape is the hidden gem....

Naaah, that's Trapped under Ice.