Has any recent Anime surpassed Trigun/Cowboy Bebop?

If you wanna talk about garbage, we can have a Sword Art Online topic.

Such beautiful and wonderful garbage though

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i heard monogatari is good

Sorry, it doesn't have Cowboy in the name, there is no way it would be understood..
 
As a reviewer back in the day for one of the UK sites this and Heat Guy J made me quit. 4 solid episodes of recap in the first half of the show made me table flip. The animation is gorgeous, the soundtrack is cool, but that recap was enough for me to just go "Nope, not doing this any more".

If memory serves me right, the recap episodes happened because of the SARS outbreak effectively shutting down production for a few weeks, forcing them to quickly improvise and cobble together some episodes to meet broadcast deadlines. That's also why the final 4 episodes had to be released as an OVA instead of airing on TV.
 
Trigun is awful, Bebop is okay, there have been scores of better shows since then.

I miss a good ol violent, edgy and crazy anime.

I want more like Berzerk, Ninja Scroll, Akira, Mad Bull, Golden Boy, Samurai Champloo... those are some of my favorites.

But the first three are mediocre to awful.

Watch Shigurui if you want violence. (and an actualy good anime. :p)

He just bounced off me completely. Could be just me.

I didn't like Monster. The main protagonist was great. The main antagonist (and the driver of the entire plot) was so dumb.

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It's reassuring to meet another soul that recognizes that recognizes the overratedness of Monster and Johan.
 
Ok, but that's usual that there's more in the manga and more plot. It ended well, I don't want any more.

i think it's fair to say that the manga resolved all the themes of that early half of it, it would do a lot for the first season to have a second which explored at least some of the story's final moments

but there was so, so much between that and it got so dark in its way there that a single more season would probably hurt it more than help it

I've only seen one episode of Bebop, is the rest of the series as good as the first episode?

i'd say the first is about an average of the series, but it has really high highs and not as many lows
 
One Punch Man is popular among the Toonami sort of crowd, but there's plenty of anime I would show to normal people completely unfamiliar with anime before it (and certainly before Death Note), taking into account their genre preferences of course. Emma: A Victorian Romance, Space Battleship Yamato 2199, Tatami Galaxy, Eccentric Family - these are series with mainstream appeal that aren't rooted in action.
Hehe I wouldn't put Tatami Galaxy as mainstream at all, but one hell of an amazing show!
 
The concept of Johan was better than the execution, I'd agree with that. Still liked Monster, even though it could get pretty slow at times.

Trigun isn't close to being as good as Cowboy Bebop. Hard to think of any modern show that I've seen that was on its level, especially if we restrict it to the same kind of genre, but I guess I'd vote for Ping Pong, Hunter X Hunter or Gintama.

2. Gakkou Gurashi(School-Live)

Now....I know what you're thinking, I was recommend this by a friend and originally stopped on the first episode because I thought it was moe trash.....I was wrong. I can't say much other than to power through the first episode until the 19min mark and then you're good. Only 12 episodes and it's a very solid series
[Link to watch it]

There is a twist, but I still have to say that this is moe trash.
 
i think it's fair to say that the manga resolved all the themes of that early half of it, it would do a lot for the first season to have a second which explored at least some of the story's final moments

but there was so, so much between that and it got so dark in its way there that a single more season would probably hurt it more than help it



i'd say the first is about an average of the series, but it has really high highs and not as many lows

A second season would probably get controversial enough to garner a third, or some OVAs. Apparently they were going to cover
the attempted suicides
, as they'd filmed scenes relevant to it.
 
I've only seen one episode of Bebop, is the rest of the series as good as the first episode?
There's like one or two crappy episodes. The rest are good or better than Asteroid Blues. The episodes that follow the 'main story' are all excellent: Ballad of Fallen Angels, Jupiter Jazz and The Real Folk Blues, what a stellar string of episodes.
 
It seems like there's a lot of good stuff, but it's going to need the same sort of "aging" some other shows have received. Before they're always considered in the top genre conversations.
 
Yeah, I saw it when Adultswim aired it all those years ago here in the US and they skipped those 4 recaps. I have never seen them and I own the series. The second half of that series is really good, really weird, and pretty damn interesting. It's been awhile since I've seen an anime with that kind of aesthetic and the air of impending tragedy that show managed to instill. I want to say it's one of a kind but my knowledge is pretty limited. I've only really been following anime for like a few years.

I don't know if it is linked or not but I've often found a lot of people who liked Wolf's Rain also really enjoyed Haibane Renmei. Like I said, I guarantee nothing, but if you've not seen it it's still a good series and well worth checking out.
 
Samurai Champloo is comparable to Cowboy Bebop, they are both done by the same director!

I thoroughly enjoyed Code Geass and I'd put it at least in the same ballpark as CB or SC.

If you are looking for anime comedy, I recommend Cromartie High School. It's different and random and awesome and the source of my avatar.
 
Watch Shigurui if you want violence. (and an actualy good anime. :p)

Man, Shigurui is one hella arthouse take on the samurai genre. Thought I was the only one who liked it here. I love that the violence is more disgusting than awesome, plus as a former medical student, love all the anatomy stuff. It's cool that nearly all the characters are so unlikeable. Now I need to rewatch it.
 
Attack on Titan
One punch Man
Fate/Stay Night
Death Note
Gangster
Monster
Black Lagoon
Gunslinger Girl s1
BTOOOM
Rurouni Kenshin
Desert Punk
Elfen Lied
Hellsing Ultimate

Have all surpassed Trigun and these are just the ones i remember right now,.
 
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

Best two animes since Bebop for me. I also enjoyed Code Geass.
 
There is a twist, but I still have to say that this is moe trash.
Art style aside, I'd disagree. I mean the art stays cute(sometimes) and they do that chibi face crap but it makes sense in context of the main character and they're are some intense moments. It's not perfect but it's still really good id say.
 
This thread is actually making me think of getting back into anime. The last one I tried to watch was Bleach and I only lasted a few episodes.
 
I love GAF thread titles with hilarious presumptions like this.

Are we talking in terms of popularity or quality?

ahhhh, this thread reminds me, I need to finish Tatami Galaxy.
 
This thread is actually making me think of getting back into anime. The last one I tried to watch was Bleach and I only lasted a few episodes.

Continue watching it until Soul Society arc ends. After that, pretend that was the end of Bleach.

Back on topic, Eureka Seven, Fate/Zero, Madoka, Psycho-Pass are some great animes.
 
Art style aside, I'd disagree. I mean the art stays cute(sometimes) and they do that chibi face crap but it makes sense in context of the main character and they're are some intense moments. It's not perfect but it's still really good id say.

The thing is that School-Live still retains a lot of why I avoid that kind of anime in the first place. I lasted until episode 7, and there's plenty of "cute girls doing stupid cute things," cutesy stuff overall, and even weird sexual fanservice with characters that look like they're eight years old.

There are some emotional moments (which I think were overtly melodramatic for the most part), but they are so overpowered by the cutesy crap that I had to quit. From how long I lasted, they weren't used as subversions of the genre, but the anime reveled in them while the elements of the "twist" were constantly looming in the background, but not directly addressed a lot of the time.
 
Thread should say Outlaw Star/Cowboy Bebop

Trigun is B tier

I have no idea why Outlaw Star is so underrated.
 
SPACE BROTHERS
Hunter x Hunter
Space Dandy(some episodes are meh but when it's good, it's DAMN good)
Ping Pong
Hajime no Ippo
Gurren Lagann
Fate/Zero
JoJo's Bizzare Adventure
Shirobako
Chihayafuru
Steins;Gate
Baccano
FMA Brotherhood
Gunbuster(80's but I don't care)

Here's a list I just came up with without thinking much with stuff that is at least as good as Trigun/Bebop or whatever you have nostalgia for.

Such a great list, Baccano, Gurren Lagann, Steins;gate and especially Shirobako. Need to check out Ping Pong, Space Dandy, and Ippo sometime. Also recommend Gekkan Shojo Nozaki-Kun for comedy (no my avatar doesn't make me bias.... maybe -_-)
 
I've tried multiple times, the series just loses all of its life for me after that happens.
How many episodes did you make it after that point? There's a very clear turning point that happens not long after. If anything if you don't want to deal with the series the two compilation movies are an option and speed through the stuff that you might not have liked.
 
The thing is that School-Live still retains a lot of why I avoid that kind of anime in the first place. I lasted until episode 7, and there's plenty of "cute girls doing stupid cute things," cutesy stuff overall, and even weird sexual fanservice with characters that look like they're eight years old.

There are some emotional moments (which I think were overtly melodramatic for the most part), but they are so overpowered by the cutesy crap that I had to quit. From how long I lasted, they weren't used as subversions of the genre, but the anime reveled in them while the elements of the "twist" were constantly looming in the background, but not directly addressed a lot of the time.
Meh to each his own I guess. I hate moe anime but made it through that with no problems.
 
Such a great list, Baccano, Gurren Lagann, Steins;gate and especially Shirobako. Need to check out Ping Pong, Space Dandy, and Ippo sometime. Also recommend Gekkan Shojo Nozaki-Kun for comedy (no my avatar doesn't make me bias.... maybe -_-)
Anyone should watch it at least for Mikorin.
 
I don't know if it is linked or not but I've often found a lot of people who liked Wolf's Rain also really enjoyed Haibane Renmei. Like I said, I guarantee nothing, but if you've not seen it it's still a good series and well worth checking out.
Ahh yes, I've been meaning to get around to that show since I've heard good things. Thanks for reminding me. I don't know how it slipped my mind.
 
Fate Stay series (both Fate/Zero and Unlimited Blade Works - controversial I know, but I love UBW), Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter are all elite tier IMO.

Still need to check out some of the shows people have listed here. Quite excited to see Space Dandy, Gurren Lagann etc for the first time.
 
In fairness to OP here, actually, as I'm seeing a lot of Trigun hate this is very much a generational thing. Its time has passed, and along with a lot of shows from that era it now lies mostly forgotten. However....send this same thread back 15 years and suddenly a Trigun defence force would appear as it was one of the more popular shows back then. Put it down to having a mix of action and comedy, riding along with Kenshin and Outlaw Star it had a lot of crossover appeal.

Personally I'm not a fan, but I hung around anime societies for long enough to know that it got a lot of love back in the day.
 
Fate Stay series (both Fate/Zero and Unlimited Blade Works - controversial I know, but I love UBW), Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Hunter X Hunter are all elite tier IMO.

Still need to check out some of the shows people have listed here. Quite excited to see Space Dandy, Gurren Lagann etc for the first time.

UBW may be controversial but it LOOKED amazing. If you want an animation highpoint....just point to that, it's phenomenal. The plot stalls a bit in places but it's a good watch overall.
 
Right on the first page, people with anime avatars are poo-pooing Cowboy Bebop.

That's the last straw weaboos. I am declaring a normie fatwah on Animegaf.
 
Right on the first page, people with anime avatars are poo-pooing Cowboy Bebop.

That's the last straw weaboos. I am declaring a normie fatwah on Animegaf.
There's one person with an anime avatar that poo-poos on Cowboy Bebop on the first page and that's DTL. Everybody else is doing what the OP wants and suggesting anime that they think is the most equivalent to Cowboy Bebop that's been released since then without actively trashing it.

There's more Trigun bashing than Cowboy Bebop bashing.
 
UBW may be controversial but it LOOKED amazing. If you want an animation highpoint....just point to that, it's phenomenal. The plot stalls a bit in places but it's a good watch overall.
Yeah the quality of the animation is incredible. I actually saw a gif of the first fight between
Saber and Berserker
and was sold immediately.
 
Putting the Trigun trashing to the side Hellsing Ultimate is pretty much better.

I had issues with Ultimate. Yes, the original REALLY dropped the ball badly with its own ending....but watching Ultimate with its toned down colour scheme, and without the awesome soundtrack just made me a bit sad.
 
Damn, what's with the Trigun hate? OP, I like it too. Vash is pretty awesome.

Back on topic, I'd add Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood to the list.
 
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