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[MKIL65]

Lots of youtubes care about their audience.

Some people are just garbage. Don't throw all content makers under one category.

Do they care enough to condemn their other fellow racist youtubers?

If they're just garbage, then it should be easy to condemn them, right?

Cause I don't see enough opposing video responses to believe that. It's mostly video responses where people jump to their defense instead.

 

[RRockman]

Two posts speak for everyone? Those posts were interesting and illuminating, but don't disagree or conflict with anything I've stated. And since when were we not allowed to have an opinion on a possible (and likely) scenario?

Sorry if I don't have a gif primed for this response

They was indeed wrong. I thought you and and Koobion jumped on him instead of just Koobion and some other people. While Prof. may have came off a little hard he did have a solid point: realizing that youtube/streamers aren't actually your friends. We've already have kids run away from home to go live with a streamer and the poor guy was like, "who are you?"

But I did get highly annoyed at Koobion assuming that Prof. was conceited for his post when you both were just talking about people not wanting to boycott kh3 in a "they're a bunch a hypocrites" tone while ignoring Stumpy's very nuanced post on that same subject. It didn't seem right at all.

And I dont have any gif primed btw. I Google and use the one I find each time.

 

[plufim]

As a kickstarted game they had such an easy out: put it up to a vote amongst their backers to keep or replace him.

Then enact that result.

They could of course show some spine and comment/act on their own, but ah well.

Add me to the "not getting it" crowd. Not touching anything involving that shit head.

 

[BTA]

I feel like the devs are in a bad situation, because even quietly removing him means dealing with his fans (and their ilk who want to attack any "SJW" they can), and it's not like they saw this coming. But at the same time, they've had ample time to deal with this by now, so it's disappointing to see that they've done nothing.

 

[ZugZug123]

I Kickstarted this so I will be getting it either way, but it would be nice if the devs would have removed it. Poor Yooka Laylee got hammered because of it, but they took the right action.

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

To be fair, Jon wasn't the only one with "jokes" like that. Arin was guilty of it too: https://youtu.be/zPPR8xu90sc?t=337

Not defending Jon, he's a racist shitheap obviously, but it bothers me when people act like Arin was above doing the exact same kind of shitty "jokes".

Wasn't planning on getting Hat in Time before, but I'm definitely not getting it now.

Arin has a lot of room to improve himself. He's not as bad as Jon, in my opinion, but he could stand to pay more attention to what he says. For example, his little "Racist Bassist" schtick he talked about for a few episodes in... some series I don't recall the name of.

They was indeed wrong. I thought you and and Koobion jumped on him instead of just Koobion and some other people. While Prof. may have came off a little hard he did have a solid point: realizing that youtube/streamers aren't actually your friends. We've already have kids run away from home to go live with a streamer and the poor guy was like, "who are you?"

But I did get highly annoyed at Koobion assuming that Prof. was conceited for his post when you both were just talking about people not wanting to boycott kh3 in a "they're a bunch a hypocrites" tone while ignoring Stumpy's very nuanced post on that same subject. It didn't seem right at all.

While I appreciate you defending me, I admit that I was in the wrong. I hoped to make a fair point and went too far in my generalizations.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Never caught a ban, no.

I'm usually not on a side on these things.

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

 

[duckroll]

 

[CharminUltra]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

Ayyy

 

[Nickle]

Lmao

 

[L Thammy]

Holy crap.

Not on a side like Boogie, I guess.

 

[jambo]

 

[Mik317]

geez bro.

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

 

[Sponge]

 

[RRockman]

Cuphead is reaction gif heaven isn't it?

 

[Erekiddo]

What did I just walk into?

 

[OnPoint]

 

[OnionPowder]

 

[Cramoss]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

Honest question, why is this post a bannable offense?

What am I missing?

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Cuphead is reaction gif heaven isn't it?

You better believe it!

What did I just walk into?

You, my friend, are bearing witness to a liar being hung out to dry!

 

[Claude Augario]

What did I just walk into?

Fantastic receipts (and where to find them).

 

[Nagito]

I just finished steamworld dig 2 and was looking at this game after seeing the release date thread got a bump but after seeing Jon is still in I will hold off till he is out.

 

[cryptosporidium]

Didnt Jontron pay for his involvement in this (according to way earlier in the thread). Depending on how much i can see why they wouldnt get rid of his involvement, hell maybe there is even a contract between them.


Is this game getting a physical release, and is it coming to switch? I just bought a switch today and only have mania

 

[Nanashrew]

Whoa

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

Y'know what? Never mind.

 

[GodParticle]

Never heard of this game(or whatever this controversy is about), but it looks amazing =O

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

 

[Zubz]

I really wanted to get this game, but it's sounding like Mecha The Slag is awful enough to justify me not redeeming my Kickstarter code on his own. I know "people change," but they only change if they want to change. And someone who went so far as to make a "hate site" seems like someone who needs a lot of motivation to want to change.

This game looked like a perfect match for me; it was aesthetically fun, & a genre I've been dying to see a revival for. I Kickstarted this game before it even made it's goal, now 2 days out, I think I'm not even going to bother.

*Snip*

Been waiting to use this .GIF

 

[Japanmanx3]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

 

[Mr. Smiley]

I really wanted to get this game, but it's sounding like Mecha The Slag is awful enough to justify me not redeeming my Kickstarter code on his own. I know "people change," but they only change if they want to change. And someone who went so far as to make a "hate site" seems like someone who needs a lot of motivation to want to change.

This game looked like a perfect match for me; it was aesthetically fun, & a genre I've been dying to see a revival for. I Kickstarted this game before it even made it's goal, now 2 days out, I think I'm not even going to bother.

Wow really?

I noticed in the MFGG link Messofanego posted there was a link to http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/ which is now been cleared. However, it is still up in the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150319004929/http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/

Here's a lengthy post detailing some of Mecha's past.

Man what

 

[Isaac Otherworld]

Why does this matter so much? Do you remember his role in Yooka Laylee that they removed? No I don't because it was an insanely minimal role.

A number of months ago he literally said "immigrants dilute the gene pool" during a debate with Destiny. Literally.

 

[Sponge]

I noticed in the MFGG link Messofanego posted there was a link to http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/ which is now been cleared. However, it is still up in the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150319004929/http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/

Here's a lengthy post detailing some of Mecha's past.

 

[Maximo]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

 

[Blues1990]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

Jesus. The moderators for this site can be pretty vicious if chosen. 0_0

 

[Stumpokapow]

Honest question, why is this post a bannable offense?

What am I missing?

My guess is that there was a sweep of that thread for thread whining (i.e. I do not think this should be a thread so I'm replying to complain that it is). A marginal case to be sure, which is why it was a short ban, and it might have went under the radar if a bunch of people didn't pull the same crap, but we live in the world we live in. In particular, it is common for people with regressive social views to enter any thread on social issues to complain about it "not being a big deal", "people overthinking it", etc.

In the terms of service, that particular thing is listed under "Do not post disingenuously, or in an inflammatory manner for the sole purpose of upsetting others... Negative commentary and minority opinions are not frowned upon, but members are expected to be able to substantiate their positions. At the same time, do not derail threads around yourself". In the FAQ forum, we elucidate further on some of the kinds of things we categorize as whining about the thread.

Finally, I'd note that most bans take into account context (i.e. has this user been posting consistently bad or borderline posts for a while before that, do they have a past record of doing this exact thing, does this seem like a good poster having a cranky day or like someone whose ice is getting thin) -- which is one of the reasons that typically a ban is between the banned user and the moderation and why we don't make ban messages public. In this particular case, the situation seemed to warrant the public disclosure precisely because the user characterized his record on these things in what I would consider to be at a minimum a misleading way when he was correctly called out for it.

 

[How About No]

Ayyy

Lmao

oaml yyyya

I noticed in the MFGG link Messofanego posted there was a link to http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/ which is now been cleared. However, it is still up in the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150319004929/http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/

Here's a lengthy post detailing some of Mecha's past.

wtf, this guy is a chode too

 

[Professor Beef]

do me next, stump

 

[Wamb0wneD]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

 

[HammerFace]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

Probably to come off as more of a centrist, if he hadn't ever been banned prior then that must mean his opinions aren't actually radical but acceptably moderate instead.

Im just guessing though.

 

[Professor Lexicovermis]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

Nah, he's probably never coming back here.

 

[ScientificPizza]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

something something reinforcing the echo chamber

anyway i refuse to support this game while jon remains in it

 

[Foffy]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

I can possibly buy the possibility that everytime he got banned, he just didn't use GAF and never notice.

That'd only be likely once if it was a week ban. But three periods? I'd believe it only in the Berenstein Bears universe.

 

[CazTGG]

You were banned for the following posts:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=158877766&postcount=2850
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=198657596&postcount=109
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=200893120&postcount=64
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=217264230
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233110518 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233111488 http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233112162&postcount=572)

Please note that the third last ban is for saying you don't care about a video examining a social justice issue, the second last ban is for getting mad at people for not liking Sugiyama's politics, and the last ban is for having an absolute fucking meltdown about people not liking Palmer Luckey.

Choose your next reply wisely.

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[Tagyhag]

My guess is that they just didn't want to go through what Yooka-Layle did. I wish they would stand their ground, but I guess they figured they need everyone on board since the game isn't as known as Yooka was.

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

Especially when you know that there are mods around.

That's like lying to a cop and telling them you don't have outstanding warrants.

They can check your stuff Tri. Lol.

 

[Zubz]

I noticed in the MFGG link Messofanego posted there was a link to http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/ which is now been cleared. However, it is still up in the web archive.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150319004929/http://mechatheslagtruth.tumblr.com/

Here's a lengthy post detailing some of Mecha's past.

The worst part of all of this was? If they released a statement, even just a "he paid to get in & we agreed before we knew he was a white supremacist" one, I don't think many people would've brought this up about Mecha.

 

[mas8705]

Was going to see what else was posted and holy hell did that escalate quickly.

I was about to say too that I saw A Hat in Time in action and it is actually rather insane to see the boss fights in action. If you don't plan on supporting the game over Jontron, then here.

I'm actually considering getting it now. Regardless of whatever role Jontron had in the game, that's one small detail compared to everything else that was worked on in this game (although if there are any future projects featuring him, I'll weigh my options then).

If anything else, A Hat in Time has Xander Mobus and Grant Kirkhope, so I'll pretend that by getting the game, I'm supporting them instead of Mr. Jafari.

 

[Alucrid]

I wonder if TriAceJP is coming back in this thread lol. That was savage. Wonder why you would lie about never getting banned though.

as someone who has never been banned i have no idea

 

[Poltergust]

Jesus. The moderators for this site can be pretty vicious if chosen. 0_0

Ah, I bet Bish is proud that his legacy lives on!

Seriously though, it's not a good idea to argue in bad faith around here, especially in such a heated topic. There really is no good reason to support JonTron at all now, so we are totally justified for being put-off by him being in the game still.

 

[RedToad64]

Although it sounds like some very questionable people have worked on the game, it still looks to be a solid 3D platformer. I'll wait for a sale, I guess.