HypnoDarkrai
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So that's it! Thanks!
Now I need to figure out the chance time with one stick....
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Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F 2nd |OT| I'll Miku-Miku GAF (For Reals)
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Now I need to figure out the chance time with one stick....
StarCreator
Member
You can use both fine as long as you aren't pushing both at the same time.
calc84maniac
Member
I personally feel like 2D Dream Fever is closer to NegaPosi, in terms of being fun to play once you get the hang of it. Intense Voice is the Sadistic Music Factory for me...
That's absolutely true. Although I think Intense Voice is comparatively fun, too. Rin-Chan Now and Sadistic Music Factory are in a category of their own of songs that just hate you.
Well, I broke down again.
To avoid cluttering this thread with my shit yet another time, I made a thread about it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=157069996
To avoid cluttering this thread with my shit yet another time, I made a thread about it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=157069996
Because I feel this REALLY needs to be said, please don't put much (read: any) thought into the drive-by posts you are receiving. Some people don't understand how much time and effort you've been putting in to these goals.
And I'm also going to say along with numerous others that you need to speak to someone. You want to know who helped me when I was obsessing over a game (Awesomenauts, to be more specific; I wanted to be part of League 1)? I'll tell you who: my Mother. She doesn't friggin' CARE about games, but I said something about how much pressure I was feeling during my matches, and it ended up being something like two hours of talking. Not even all about the game, but my behavior and quirks in general. It doesn't have to be a professional, just someone who knows you.
So please, speak to someone. You shouldn't be anxious in your day-to-day life.
And I'm also going to say along with numerous others that you need to speak to someone. You want to know who helped me when I was obsessing over a game (Awesomenauts, to be more specific; I wanted to be part of League 1)? I'll tell you who: my Mother. She doesn't friggin' CARE about games, but I said something about how much pressure I was feeling during my matches, and it ended up being something like two hours of talking. Not even all about the game, but my behavior and quirks in general. It doesn't have to be a professional, just someone who knows you.
So please, speak to someone. You shouldn't be anxious in your day-to-day life.
That post about the sausage gave me a chuckle
The best thing to do with trolls is to laugh with them.
I'm really, really sorry to hear that you're going through that. I'll chime in and say that you should talk to somebody, and also agree with ChrisD above - that it should be anyone that will listen in a way that is helpful to you.
It sounds like it's a more general problem than a problem with this game, specifically, but it also sounds like all the numbers, and measuring of your success that a game like this does, is detrimental to your enjoyment.
You mention that you used to play it casually, and the truth is that you were practicing without even noticing back then. When you get too conscious of your progress and performance you start thinking too much about what you can't do to enjoy what you can do. I go through bouts of that, creatively, from time to time, and I need to take a breath and remind myself why I'm in love with doing those things in the first place.
Learning this game is much more about just getting comfortable with the mechanics overall than grinding a specific song and trying, rigidly, to emulate being familiar with those mechanics. The game allows you to jump around willy nilly, but there is an invisible difficuly curve there. Just by playing the game for fun - just by playing the songs to listen to them and to have them engage with you - it'll organically open up to you. Getting better at stuff like this is never about gritting teeth and desperately trying to get better. It just happens. At its own pace.
And if you're not enjoying playing the songs any more, the fundamental proposition of the game collapses. There is no real reward - no point, even - but that enjoyment.
I need you not to burn out on Miku, man! I need people to talk to about this stuff!
Zambayoshi
Member
Does anyone ever go back to the game after a while and wonder how on earth you managed to get certain scores/grades? For example, I was playing Romeo & Cinderella on Extreme and got a decent excellent, which I was very happy with, but I then realised that my best grade on the song was a perfect. At my current skill level I'd need to be pretty lucky to get a perfect like that again.
Strangely, it also seems to work the other way around. I've gone back after a few months and got extreme perfects first go on some songs like Two Breaths Walking, that I previously had not been close to perfecting.
Strangely, it also seems to work the other way around. I've gone back after a few months and got extreme perfects first go on some songs like Two Breaths Walking, that I previously had not been close to perfecting.
Now that I've cooled down a bit, I realize that I was only lying to myself when I said that the game had been "nothing but an unpleasant chore". Looking back, I did also have plenty of fun over the past three months, despite the overblown frustration.
Maybe I just need to stop focusing on the negative and start thinking more about the positive.
Maybe I just need to stop focusing on the negative and start thinking more about the positive.
Against my better judgment I decided to play a bit tonight, HOWEVER I established some ground rules:
1) No more than one hour per day
2) Only random and spotlight songs
3) Following StarCreator's advice, never retry a song more than 3 times, no matter how badly I feel like going over
I... think it works? If I keep up these rules I believe I should be ok from now on.
Oh and I ended my session with this totally irrelevant result. Seriously why am I even posting it here, it has certainly nothing to do with anything that happened recently.
1) No more than one hour per day
2) Only random and spotlight songs
3) Following StarCreator's advice, never retry a song more than 3 times, no matter how badly I feel like going over
I... think it works? If I keep up these rules I believe I should be ok from now on.
Oh and I ended my session with this totally irrelevant result. Seriously why am I even posting it here, it has certainly nothing to do with anything that happened recently.
Wonko_C
Member
Don't know if my advice helps but I don't even touch Extreme. I know my skill ceiling is up to Hard and I'm satisfied with that. I to try to earn perfects up to that point, and from there it's just playing the songs on Hard for enjoyment, without worrying about the results. (And grinding DP)
Remembrance
Member
Glad you figured out some rules!
I'm currently stuck yet again at the point where I'm getting one safe across a bunch of different songs. My rule is to firmly resist the temptation to immediately repeat, and come back later.
A lot of the time it just happens to work out the very next time I come back.
I'm currently stuck yet again at the point where I'm getting one safe across a bunch of different songs. My rule is to firmly resist the temptation to immediately repeat, and come back later.
A lot of the time it just happens to work out the very next time I come back.
I think you will get the best of the game if you manage to follow these rules. Congratulations on your achievement! I'm not near your level (I still cant complete 9+ star songs), but know all my extreme standard records are proudly screenshotted and archived.
It appears that spending too much time in Two-Sided Lovers has completely warped my dual wielding. I can't even do the Akatsuki Arrival Chance Time anymore, which I had pretty much almost mastered (my current record on the song is 12 failed notes)... It seems like I lost my proper timing, and that I'll have to work on getting it back... Hopefully it'll stay for good...
Yeah, that's also how I was playing up until this January. Barely touched Extreme and didn't care, that's all I needed to have fun.
But now that I've fallen into the rabbit hole, there's no going back.
Yeah, that's also how I was playing up until this January. Barely touched Extreme and didn't care, that's all I needed to have fun.
But now that I've fallen into the rabbit hole, there's no going back.
Grats on the Two-Sided Lovers clear! I've got multiple DropxOut pictures, as wellas my first clear. I love looking at the pictures progress over the span of months.
If you get caught up again, a break really does do wonders. I wasn't able to play pretty much anything last week since it was a busy week at my first job. So not only do I have the all around hectic schedule, but I'm also trying to learn the ropes and didnt think much on games. Well, this week I'm off until the weekend (Theme Park, only open weekends now), and I got a chance to play. I could feel myself playing better, and the results were showing it. Now that I've played for four hours or so over three days... Not so much. Back to normal haha.
Though it didn't help me with Just Be Friends. One Safe. Always. One. Safe. Aaarrrggh.
And finally, completely unrelated to anything else, but I've apparently played Rolling Girl 60 times. :>
I've got multiple DropxOut pictures, as wellas my first clear. I love looking at the pictures progress over the span of months.If you get caught up again, a break really does do wonders. I wasn't able to play pretty much anything last week since it was a busy week at my first job. So not only do I have the all around hectic schedule, but I'm also trying to learn the ropes and didnt think much on games. Well, this week I'm off until the weekend (Theme Park, only open weekends now), and I got a chance to play. I could feel myself playing better, and the results were showing it. Now that I've played for four hours or so over three days... Not so much. Back to normal haha.
Though it didn't help me with Just Be Friends. One Safe. Always. One. Safe. Aaarrrggh.
And finally, completely unrelated to anything else, but I've apparently played Rolling Girl 60 times. :>
Zambayoshi
Member
Take care! Hope you keep enjoying those random/spotlight songs, I know I do
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Take care antibolo!
My husband and I play this game together as a sort of competition.
I imported PD2nd a long time ago, and I remembered playing it long enough to get decent at Cantarella on Extreme, then put it down for years. Then I imported f when we got our Vita, but really hated the touch screen star scratches. It wasn't until F came out in the states that I really started to get into PD games.
I got really familiar with the first game, learning all the songs and such, and then my husband decided he wanted to pick it up. We've both played it fairly consistently (I played a bit more with the import of F 2nd than him, since I was better at reading the titles and menus) so it's been interesting to see this sort of natural progression between our skill levels. We both ended up hitting a wall after being able to complete all the Hard songs and the easier Extreme ones.
I got my first Extreme perfect a few weeks ago (Ai Kotoba lol), and not two weeks after he gets his (Kokoro). We're not really the type to play the same song over and over and try for perfects, so it was really about familiarity with the songs, accuracy, and being able to not freak out as we get to the end and realize we haven't missed a note.
I've always been just a little bit ahead of him on the skill level, and I guess now that's still true. He has more trouble with the star flicks than I do. I just recently got over my wall with dual-handing overlapping notes, though I'm not good at them yet. I just don't automatically freak out and flail when I see them, and can get easier triplets and isolated longer strings without too much trouble. Still working on passing Rolling Girl, and I can get really close. I hope to be good enough to try for a tournament at PAX prime later this year, but who knows if I'll have the confidence, haha.
Idk why I posted this lol. I feel like I've been lurking in the thread too much without posting. Really looking forward to Rosary Pale when I get back from Sakura-con. That chart looks fun as hell.
I imported PD2nd a long time ago, and I remembered playing it long enough to get decent at Cantarella on Extreme, then put it down for years. Then I imported f when we got our Vita, but really hated the touch screen star scratches. It wasn't until F came out in the states that I really started to get into PD games.
I got really familiar with the first game, learning all the songs and such, and then my husband decided he wanted to pick it up. We've both played it fairly consistently (I played a bit more with the import of F 2nd than him, since I was better at reading the titles and menus) so it's been interesting to see this sort of natural progression between our skill levels. We both ended up hitting a wall after being able to complete all the Hard songs and the easier Extreme ones.
I got my first Extreme perfect a few weeks ago (Ai Kotoba lol), and not two weeks after he gets his (Kokoro). We're not really the type to play the same song over and over and try for perfects, so it was really about familiarity with the songs, accuracy, and being able to not freak out as we get to the end and realize we haven't missed a note.
I've always been just a little bit ahead of him on the skill level, and I guess now that's still true. He has more trouble with the star flicks than I do. I just recently got over my wall with dual-handing overlapping notes, though I'm not good at them yet. I just don't automatically freak out and flail when I see them, and can get easier triplets and isolated longer strings without too much trouble. Still working on passing Rolling Girl, and I can get really close. I hope to be good enough to try for a tournament at PAX prime later this year, but who knows if I'll have the confidence, haha.
Idk why I posted this lol. I feel like I've been lurking in the thread too much without posting. Really looking forward to Rosary Pale when I get back from Sakura-con. That chart looks fun as hell.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Tomorrow is Rosary Pale and Promise!
StarCreator
Member
Speaking of DLC, it's also a JP DLC release day (yes, they're releasing something on a Tuesday). I'll probably be streaming it tonight, with a possible surprise preceding it. Stream will be at http://www.hitbox.tv/starcreator in probably an hour or so from now.
EDIT: Now streaming... something.
EDIT2: Still no DLC, but I've switched to Dreamy Theater 2nd in the meantime!
EDIT: Now streaming... something.
EDIT2: Still no DLC, but I've switched to Dreamy Theater 2nd in the meantime!
KharmaPolice
Member
Cool, I'll check it out. Though I don't have a hitbox account so I won't be chatting.
Remembrance
Member
It's funny to think that Japan PSN updates so predictably, considering what we get here.
FWIW, I don't have any video flickering issues on Firefox.
FWIW, I don't have any video flickering issues on Firefox.
Aww, missed out on Dreamy Theater 2nd stream. Next time though!
StarCreator
Member
I have it all saved on replay, though the replays are totally desynced for some reason =/
Plus bonus highlights:
HypnoDarkrai
Member
Modules here:
Kaito Classic
Kaito Campus
Hatsune Miku Cute
Kagamine Rin Cute
Might as well post the skins as well, while I'm doing this
Requiem (Blue Rose)
Kaito (Gothic & Snow)
Genius (Intelligence)
Kaito Classic
Kaito Campus
Hatsune Miku Cute
Kagamine Rin Cute
Might as well post the skins as well, while I'm doing this
Requiem (Blue Rose)
Kaito (Gothic & Snow)
Genius (Intelligence)
StarCreator
Member
Second post updated, thanks~
Zambayoshi
Member
That's cool! I remember struggling with dual wielding for a while, especially when dealing with odd numbers of notes (meaning that the starting hand switched between sets of notes) but after a while it became second nature.
I think it's awesome that you can play with your husband. I recently introduced a mate to PDF on PS3 and it was interesting sitting and watching him get better at it in a matter of an hour or two (or three!)
KharmaPolice
Member
Seems like SEGA EU screwed up yet again and this time didn't even manage to get the DLC up on the store at all. Apparently it is scheduled for next week...
Andrefpvs
Member
Andrefpvs
Member
That's a pretty good April's Fools Sega Europe, you're putting the DLC up tomorrow right?
...right?
StarCreator
Member
Zambayoshi
Member
It seems that there is someone completely incompetent at the offices of SEGA EU. The number of problems with getting content onto the store is mind-boggling and cannot be put down to a one-off error. Hopefully SEGA EU lights a fire under the person responsible and this kind of buffoonery is avoided in future.
YianGaruga
Banned
Since there are issues with content on EU PSN practically every week, I think it's more likely that SCEE is incompetent. Probably a bit of both.
KharmaPolice
Member
As a customer I frankly don't care who is responsible for this. Whichever party isn't at fault should tell the other one to get their stuff sorted out.
KharmaPolice
Member
F2nd is, the first one isn't.
StarCreator
Member
On a whim I entered the tournament at Anime Boston. Ended up wiping before the final four - had to go against the second seed, lost her pick badly (Hello Worker), and she barely got me on my pick (Uraomote Lovers). I should spend more time with the base songlist instead of playing DLC all the time.
Andrefpvs
Member
I've never seen a tournament for this game. It sounds fun!
By the way, can anyone connect to the game's Network mode? It keeps saying it can't connect over here...
Andrefpvs
Member
Woop dee doo
Thanks for the heads up!
By the way, I still can't connect to Network mode. The hell?
Edit: If possible, can anyone post links to the EU DLC? It's always such a pain to find.
Zambayoshi
Member
YianGaruga
Banned
SEGA pls
The modules aren't though, so now we get to play a fun game of seeing if they are up later or if that's going to be Sega Europe's DLC mistake this week.
Edit: Modules and skins are up now
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Am I the only who dislikes every kaito song? Just sounds like enka bullshit.
StarCreator
Member
I can only think of one KAITO song in Project DIVA that could be interpreted as enka, and even that one is kind of a stretch. So no, I have no idea what you're talking about.