Have PlayStation Ads Gotten Worse Than Xbox Ads on the New Systems?
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The 360 also had minimal ads at first.
OOh man the blades, how I miss the blades
travisbickle
Member
Are you sure this isn't a parody of an old comment?
"It's information I want to know, would like to hear" was always the go-to response for defending adverts.
Japanmanx3
Member
Just curious, but this would be your only reason to not buy a PS4?
Glorified G
Member
If that pushed you away then you were never interested to begin with. "Aww ps4 doesn't come with a stand? It shows it right there on the box. I was planning on getting a ps4 sometime later but I guess I'll just stick to my pc."
This is literally the equivalent to your post.
You just explained that you're disappointed about ads in a store setting, so it shouldn't be too hard to see that others are just as disappointed to see them in a system UI setting. They simply don't need to be there and should be avoided if possible.
Mass Effect
Member
The ads in the PS Store aren't really all that bad. Plus it makes sense to put some ads in the store. My biggest problem though is that the store is terrible on PS4. Why does each item need some gigantor tile? It makes it slow to navigate and waste too much space.
But you *don't* see ads unless you go to the store page. It's not like they're plastered all over the home screen (like on 360). Hardly a reason to avoid an entire console.
But you *don't* see ads unless you go to the store page. It's not like they're plastered all over the home screen (like on 360). Hardly a reason to avoid an entire console.
Glorified G
Member
Ads that is specifically on a store page. A store page that you specifically have to direct yourself too, meaning it's not on the dashboard or home UI. A store page that doesn't have ads in certain regions which has proven in this very thread. And finally, a store page that you never have to go to or use.You can buy content separately on Sony's network online site. For another equivalent post:
"Ludicrous contranym aside, I personally see a fairly big gulf between choosing not to support a product that purposely supports false advertising right and an optional store page that you never have to use. Some people don't like being misled about the content they choose to purchase. Sony shouldn't put an accessory right on the box if they have no intention of including it. I don't know if that opinion requires someone to be as damaged as some folks keep implying."
Damaged? No. Highly disingenuous? Absolutely.
Decepticon
Neo Member
Eh, You are making this up. This is 100% not true. Try harder Sony fanboy.
Anyways, i have both consoles and Ads aren't really a problem to me.
this is the equivalent to his post
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39891954&postcount=765
NoMoreTrolls
Banned
The storefront certainly seems to have more ads than before. As for the general UI outside the store? Nah.
CouldBeWorse
Member
I'm not arguing for one over the other as I don't understand the distinction. Others were. They are ALL annoying, but especially so the way it's done in the PS4 store as you have to scroll past them, which is not true of the XB1 store.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
The Wii U store is functional. You can only navigate via the Gamepad, but it shows the menu on both the gamepad and your TV. There's a fair amount of ads in it. Also you have to add money to your balance in either $10, $20, $50, or $100 chunks and you can't add an amount that would exceed $200.
Here's what the storefront for it currently looks like:
http://i.imgur.com/M4PKKlG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2wg5RLG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/93gFJNS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PwdVbx7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Vd0DD9M.jpg
It too has a McDonalds ad. ><
Thanks for fulfilling my curiosity!
McDonalds is literally* everywhere.
CouldBeWorse
Member
What does the 360 have to do with a thread about the new systems?
And how are the unobtrusive if you have to scroll over them. They are LITERALLY obtrusive in that sense.
UpUpDownDown
Member
Americans love to eat dude.
Mass Effect
Member
Eh... I can't say I've seen any beef jerky ads or anything of the sort (fast food, soda, whatever). Everything I've seen ad-wise has been either games, TV shows/movies, or music. But then again, I hardly ever check the PS Store because one, it's not like there's much reason to check it on a regular basis given the lack of content at the moment, and two, because, like I said, it's terrible and I dislike using it. so maybe I've missed them (and also because I don't use my PS4 very often right now, but I digress).
However, I do agree with the principle of what you're saying. There should be some relevance to the advertisements shown on the store. When visiting the PS Store, I'm there for one thing only: shopping, or at least looking, for video games. Other media, like music and movies, also make sense to have ads for because they do offer them on the store, so I can understand that as well even if I have no interest in them. But I have no interest in seeing ads for something like beef jerky or McDonalds.
I made this post on Vita ads a while ago. Also, the app switcher is literally the least used page in the entire Vita experience. Don't use that screen as justification. Use other legitimate reasons. =)
This is the way you should do this in my opinion. Not only are these ads non-intrusive, they don't take up space that could be better used for something else. And my favorite part of all, none of this is on the main home screen. Hell, the 2nd screen where all the open applications are listed are something I doubt most people ever use. The day a Burger King ad pops up is the day I stop being in favor of this. And the ads in Guacamelee are for use for the publisher or creator of the title to use. They have space to use for whatever they want.
Glorified G
Member
All the complaining? I was originally responding to one specific poster who supposedly had planned to purchase a PS4 but no longer because of this. If that's anyone's rationale then yes, you are being disingenuous and yes, you were never a serious perspective buyer to begin with.
For everyone else complaining, I don't disagree with them.
If English is your second language and you don't know how to read properly, absolutely. No where in that post where I used ads as a reason to not buy a 360, because that would be stupid.
Almost as stupid as searching back two years to find a post to contradict another one in 2014. Where it only proves your basic reading comprehension is poor.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Aren't PSN ads in the store or the Whats new section if you go over it. XB ads were on the home screen or one of those screens weren't they, which is far worse.
The 360 definitely could be a pain to play games as soon as you turned it on, but while the PS4 doesn't have ads get in the way of me playing games or using apps, the store ads are pretty obnoxious with how they stick them where they aren't relevant and place a bunch of them you have to scroll through before searching a category for more results.
I prefer the latter system over the former because the 360 could bury games and make it a pain in the ass for just me to find certain digital games I wanted to play without finding a work around, but browsing the PS store has been way more of a pain than it needed to be and the ads have been integrated poorly on top of that. And at the moment there isn't a ton of content, I dread thinking what it will be like once there is if they don't do anything to improve it.
I prefer the latter system over the former because the 360 could bury games and make it a pain in the ass for just me to find certain digital games I wanted to play without finding a work around, but browsing the PS store has been way more of a pain than it needed to be and the ads have been integrated poorly on top of that. And at the moment there isn't a ton of content, I dread thinking what it will be like once there is if they don't do anything to improve it.
Ascenion
Member
It has a McDonalds ad because happy meals are currently giving out Mario Kart 8 toys.
My issue with the Xbox One is that it devotes 1/4 of the home screen to ads. I don't give 2 fucks what the relevance of the ad is in this case. An entire section of my home screen is devoted to it, and we best believe it won't always be game related.
Cbajd5
Member
You only have to add money in $10, $20, $50, or $100 chunks if you're just adding to the general balance of your account. During the process of buying a game you can add exactly how much you need to bring your total balance to the total cost of the game using a credit card.
Does it do that on the 3DS eShop too? I swear it wouldn't let me do it heh, at least not back when I bought SMT4 DLC. I haven't made a purchase on the Wii U side of it yet.
Xbox video is primarily a movie rental service though. That's like complaining about Netflix showing you movies you haven't seen yet.
Also the difference with the X1 ads on the dash is that they're all showcasing content from the store. At the moment most of it isn't actually. One of the tiles is telling us about the new updates yo the system and the other is about Games with Gold. This is much better than having ads for Slim Jims.
unempLLOYD
Member
Lol only in american playstation servers. No ads here in europe.
Isn't that straight up what the OP was describing in his post? There were movie ads in the games tab.
Also you're going to have to provide proof about the Max thing because that is just plainly untrue.
CoffeeKillquest
Member
I don't know about the Xbox one but the Ps4 has about the same amount of ads as the ps3 in the store imo.
Case in point: PSN ads are displayed in three places - PSN Store (which makes sense), activity feed (which you have access separately), and game-specific DLC/sequel ads underneath the tiles for those games.
Unlike Xbox One's messy tileset, there are zero ads forced upon the player when he first turns on the console. Every ad he/she gets is either based on the player's own input or choice.
Xbox One's forced ads remain worse.
Unlike Xbox One's messy tileset, there are zero ads forced upon the player when he first turns on the console. Every ad he/she gets is either based on the player's own input or choice.
Xbox One's forced ads remain worse.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I haven't noticed an increase in advertising on either console. In fact, it's the direct opposite. There are too few ads highlighting what new content is available on both stores.
They really need to pick up their ad game. I hate having to negotiate various menus to see what's new, highlight it on the home sceeen and make sure the ad links me directly to that new content.
Make my life as a busy gamer easier.
Also, bring on the targeted ads/recommendations that highlight content I might like based on my play and purchase history.
They really need to pick up their ad game. I hate having to negotiate various menus to see what's new, highlight it on the home sceeen and make sure the ad links me directly to that new content.
Make my life as a busy gamer easier.
Also, bring on the targeted ads/recommendations that highlight content I might like based on my play and purchase history.
Phat Michael
Banned
Is he ever going to come back and answer this? The XB1 doesnt work that way....im sure the PS4/ps3/360 dont either. What console has "pop up ads"???
The adverts on the PS4 are confined to the store. Its hardly comparable to the 360's adverts everywhere approach. I haven't seen the adverts for the XB1 so I can't comment on that. but the PS4's ad's arent intrusive atall. THose are just some very selective screenshots of only the store. The main UI is completely clean.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Maybe he's talking about the developer logos and start screen?
Seriously, he's probably talking about the game hub that highlights new content/events in other games that also have the hub.
I think CoD games had these DLC splash screens. They were game-specfic, so I did not really mind them. I know BLOPS2 had them at least.
He is referring to the "meld" which was added to Max, and appears in Halo, PSG, Crimson Dragon and such.
Sometimes its a bit in your face.
Ads in the store > ads on the main dash.
If i enter the store, i'm usually there to make a purchase. Advertising content makes sense. Here in Europe, I also haven't seen any non-content related ads either.
But on the dash when i'm just looking to boot up my games? No ads anywhere, clean as a whistle. It's nice.
If i enter the store, i'm usually there to make a purchase. Advertising content makes sense. Here in Europe, I also haven't seen any non-content related ads either.
But on the dash when i'm just looking to boot up my games? No ads anywhere, clean as a whistle. It's nice.
You don't count the Featured area as ads space?
The right side has stupid picture of stuff that I don't want to see. Yes, this include gaming related, they are all ads.
Heck, I even hate the PS4 bar with its uninstallable Music/Video apps. I considered those apps as Sony Ads...so annoying.
I want to delete everything on that bar...Sony didn't think this through at all.
Both consoles have bad UI imo.
X1: Ugly tiles+Featured Ads, and stupid long scrolling bar for PS4.
The Vita UI is so much better, just a screen+your primary game folders/PSN, and another screen for useless icons that you will use once in a blue moon.
SPACECADET
Member
yeah, i really don't care about ads in the store. put them wherever you want as long as i get to what i'm looking for. just keep my main page clean.
Caayn
Member
You really love the "x has no games" joke. Come on. It wasn't funny when folks used it for the PS4 6 months ago, and it still isn't it. It should've ended years ago.
Oh, yes I agree. Those count as ads in my book. Really annoying that we can't hide them, even if they aren't installed. Having a tiny bit of customization, or the ability to use the shoulder buttons to quickly go through that list would help.
There are most definitely ads on the XMB.
Why am I seeing tons of ads for apps around the single app I have installed? This doesn't exactly help with navigating to where I want to go.
i wouldn't even say those count as ads, they're part of the store. sure they are promoting some games and content more than others but thats a promotion not an ad, just like in a physical store some items will be promoted and have special displays.
having banners for games on the xbox dashboard is a bit worse, since its not in the store, but having adverts for non-gaming products is really crappy, and very different from promoting certain content within the store.
having banners for games on the xbox dashboard is a bit worse, since its not in the store, but having adverts for non-gaming products is really crappy, and very different from promoting certain content within the store.
Damn I just went through four pages hoping I'd be the first to make a comment about that.
What a great association to make in people's minds when selling a meat stick of questionable quality.
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