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I'LL TAKE TWO OF EVERYTHING, PLEASE.
I'm really happy to see blizzard start printing non-legendary 7+ mana minions. The game needs them badly for new players who want big flashy minions but don't own a lot of cards yet.
I can't see it getting any play in high end constructed but it looks like something new players will have a lot of fun with.
I can't see it getting any play in high end constructed but it looks like something new players will have a lot of fun with.
Officerrob
Banned
Yuck, more disappointment
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Might be cool in Arena? If it was 5 dmg it would at least kill a Sludge Belcher..
Yeah,that's pretty terrible,but maybe some low budget decks will find some use for it.
What is it with blizzards obsession with 9/7's anyway?
It's a horrible way to distribute 16 stats.The only playable 9/7 is Mal' Ganis and that's only the case,because a 4 mana card can summon him.
It is extremely powerful in arena. It is kinda like what fire elemental might look like at 9 mana. 4 damage is worth about 3 mana so you are paying 6 mana for the body. That is really good. In a topdeck war in arena that is a huge pull.
hypersheep
Member
I like it, it's another big card for people on a budget so that they won't be forced into playing War golems as their curve toppers.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I guess the upside is you could run 2 of these? Not like anyone ever would, people hardly run Rag nowadays and this thing still dies to BGH
And yeah I agree, should be pretty good in Arena where Force Tank MAX and other cards like that are played.
hypersheep
Member
The upside of the card is that it costs 40 dust, not 1600.
9/7 balances itself out.
1) Gets hit by BGH, check.
2) Fireball + Fireblast, check.
3) Dies to Dr. Boom, check.
4) Skill Command and any 2/x, check.
5) Easy to kill for Rogue, easy to kill for Warrior, check and check.
It's 7/9 which would be a very, very, dangerous stat distribution to play with.
1) Gets hit by BGH, check.
2) Fireball + Fireblast, check.
3) Dies to Dr. Boom, check.
4) Skill Command and any 2/x, check.
5) Easy to kill for Rogue, easy to kill for Warrior, check and check.
It's 7/9 which would be a very, very, dangerous stat distribution to play with.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yeah, you are right.
Cards should probably be designed to work in both, but it hardly seems like it.
It should be a beast, actually
Super Nothing
Member
Gotta make sure that Dr. Balance can trade favorably with them.
EnVy_CaLiBeR
Member
Card is garbage in Constructed. Good in Arena.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here.
A bad minion that costs three less than normal is a good minion.
The mana discount still makes a lot of them really good. Getting this as a 6 mana 9/7 that does 4 damage is pretty amazing compared to a 6 mana 6/5 3 damage fire ele.
Though fizzlebang would be a really bad draw.
That card is fine as a one-off expensive common minion that does something. I agree that it should be a Beast, the North Sea Kraken is actually a Beast in World of Warcraft.
I don't know. The WoW Kraken look more like they are related to Naga and they are servants of Neptulon. They are also summoned to the world from the elemental plane of water.
LMAO you guys are slaying me!
Today is the daily reminder that not a single card has been showcased that is actually better than Dr Balanced.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
i can so live with that.
legendary cards that are all about hero power won't be as good as Dr Balanced obviously, that probably covers all class legs and so far two of the three neutral ones. The other one depends on seeing what other pirates are in the set, even then I think Leeroy is a better card even in a pirate deck.
Beating classics or Dr Boom is quite hard.
Beating classics or Dr Boom is quite hard.
You spend 2 mana on the initial portal. Why does everybody forget this?
Only matters if the opportunity cost was to miss a better use of that mana. At worst, you didn't use that mana to keep tempo. At best, you didn't ping face on turn 2.
New Card:
Kraken ~> Alexstraza if you can get your opponent down to 18hp by turn 9, I guess.
Arena card only. Not enough impact for the cost.
2 mana that the majority of the time procs a Flamewaker. Or buffs a mana worm. Or is only 1 mana with that one chick
I think people just want cooler cards.
Like that Justicar card is COOL. It's probably total shit but at least it's interesting.
A lot of the cards showcased are at least cool even if they aren't that good. This card on the other hand sticks out as being "meh" compared to the other showcased so far especially for its cost.
My only concern with the new expansion is to introduce more new cool cards and don't have as many RNG-based cards. If you introduce enough cool cards then some of them end up being strong anyway because decks can be build around the strength of a card.
Minsc
Gold Member
Blizzard absolutely won't win if people don't use a decent number of cards from the set in ranked. That's the only reason to spend money for packs, to make ranked decks. Power creep > disappointing cards.
I suppose they don't want to spoil all of the cool new cards at first, but it's just a rather boring card to have revealed from voting first.
Blizzard absolutely won't win if people don't use a decent number of cards from the set in ranked. That's the only reason to spend money for packs, to make ranked decks. Power creep > disappointing cards.
I think there is a balance. If 80 of the cards are imminently playable, that's probably too many and almost certainly means significant power creep. If only 5 cards are playable, that's too few. But if, say, 30 of the cards are playable, 10-20 become staples for certain decks, and 3-10 are really great such that they either create new archetypes or become staples in multiple pre-existing archetypes, then that's pretty good.
The voted card is North Sea Kraken:
It's not the worst shit tbh. It's sort of a worse, but more controllable Ragnaros.
It's also a really good card in Arena.
how is this at all like rag? it's a bigger more expensive fire elemental.
Commonly played GvG cards in constructed decks:
Clockwork Gnome
Cogmaster
Annoy O Tron
Explosive Sheep
Mechwarper
Micro Machine
Spider Tank
Tinkertown Technician
Mechanical Yeti
Piloted Shredder
Antique Healbot
Kezan Mystic
Fel Reaver
Piloted Sky Golem
Dr. Boom
Toshley
Glaivezooka
Flamecannon
Snowchugger
Unstable Portal
Goblin Blastmage
Echo of Medivh
Muster for Battle
Shielded Minibot
Coghammer
Quartermaster
Velen's Chosen
Vuljin
Lightbomb
Tinker's oil
Crackle
Whirling Zap o matic
Powermace
Darkbomb
Implosion
Mistress of pain
Malganis
Shieldmaiden
38 cards across all classes out of 123 cards. As such, I think hoping for 1/4 to 1/3 of all cards being reasonably playable is a good goal.
Clockwork Gnome
Cogmaster
Annoy O Tron
Explosive Sheep
Mechwarper
Micro Machine
Spider Tank
Tinkertown Technician
Mechanical Yeti
Piloted Shredder
Antique Healbot
Kezan Mystic
Fel Reaver
Piloted Sky Golem
Dr. Boom
Toshley
Glaivezooka
Flamecannon
Snowchugger
Unstable Portal
Goblin Blastmage
Echo of Medivh
Muster for Battle
Shielded Minibot
Coghammer
Quartermaster
Velen's Chosen
Vuljin
Lightbomb
Tinker's oil
Crackle
Whirling Zap o matic
Powermace
Darkbomb
Implosion
Mistress of pain
Malganis
Shieldmaiden
38 cards across all classes out of 123 cards. As such, I think hoping for 1/4 to 1/3 of all cards being reasonably playable is a good goal.
Some of those are kinda stretching it like Toshley.
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