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thepotatoman
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Kolento pointed out you can really feel the impact of Reno being gone from meta. I think it does let faster decks that aren't Pirate levels of fast have room to breath some.
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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I got 11+ dupes of one or two cards out of 80 packs. I had a ton of 7+ dupes in there.
I never ever accept random friend requests. I assume it's always someone trying to harass.
I just played a priest who finished the quest and then played other things for 2-3 turns instead of going for the 40 HP. They got burst down from 15 HP for that.
Karsticles
Member
Having trouble making the Mage quest work. :-/
It didn't say "spell" when I hovered over it, either.
It didn't say "spell" when I hovered over it, either.
I got 4 dinosizes in like 60 packs. The chances of that happening is very very low...
I mean it's not like there is any doubt that packs in this game are not really random. There is zero transparency about drop rates and everything, all we know is figured out by the community. There is no pity timer officially, there are no offcial drop rates. Shadowverse has all of their drop rates on their website for everyone to see and it checks out for example. What they're doing is becoming illegal soon so we might see some changes.
I mean it's not like there is any doubt that packs in this game are not really random. There is zero transparency about drop rates and everything, all we know is figured out by the community. There is no pity timer officially, there are no offcial drop rates. Shadowverse has all of their drop rates on their website for everyone to see and it checks out for example. What they're doing is becoming illegal soon so we might see some changes.
The funny thing is, if I'm purposely using a really weird deck or start losing on purpose (in casual no less), they usually add me and go "thank you, I was trying to do a quest too!". This guy was like "haha sure you're doing a quest you just suck".
veryslowhand
Banned
Shaman leg and paladin quest out of 70 packs, bad luck, even more considering the second one was in the last pack, at least got a decent number of epics.
Is elemental shaman any good?
Is elemental shaman any good?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Lol at the interaction between van cleef and crystallize. Rogue quest should have a tough time with PW, no taunts nor heals.
What spell is crystallize? I can't find anything on Google.
Try it yourself. The earliest you can play the quest card is turn 5 (turn 4 with coin technically), and at that point you have less than a 50% chance to draw a single raptor. 25% to draw 2 raptors, and it goes down from there. It's extremely unreliable. Anything with a taunt further blocks it.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Oh my god quest rogue is completely bonkers.
I build a ghetto deck of it(The plant that gains 1+ for each card played instead of van cleef, patches replaced with...something else) and oh my god
I build a ghetto deck of it(The plant that gains 1+ for each card played instead of van cleef, patches replaced with...something else) and oh my god
Glad to hear it. Just had one now where the hunter didn't get father than 4/7 in 14 turns.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
LOL
AS A ROGUE I JUST MIND CONTROLLED A PRIESTS AMARA AND SHADOW STEPPED IT
oh my god
AS A ROGUE I JUST MIND CONTROLLED A PRIESTS AMARA AND SHADOW STEPPED IT
oh my god
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not sold on rogue quest being all that impressive deck runs out of steam easily and doesn't have nearly as good top decks as PW. It might be worth it to add the water package.
crystallize is the name of the rogue quests effect. Van Cleef enters as a 5/5 then gets +2/+2
I'm still confused; the rogue quest reward is called Crystal Core. I think we're talking about the same thing though.
new warlock quest: discard 6 cards and then concede.
priests should probably just save time and concede vs rogues. maybe wait to see if it's quest rogue or not.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
When you hover over minions it tells you the active buffs on them Crystal Core's is call Crystallized.
Ahhh I see, thanks.
It's clunky, try to minimize overload or play harbringer, devolve was useful in jade meta, in this 5/5 rogue quest it only works against druid and pally. So, I'm not sure about devolve
fire fly x 2
lightning bolt x 1
bloodmage thalnos x 1
devolve x 2
flametongue totem x 2
jade claws x 1
maelstrom portal x 2
hex x 2
hot spring guardian x 2
lightning storm x 1
mana tide totem x 1
tar creeper x 2
jade lightning 2
tol'vir stoneshaper x 1
bloodlust x 2
servant of kalimos x 2
volcano x 1
fire elemental x 1
blazecaller x 2
kalimos x 1
I'm not sure with the one I bold.
toddhunter
Member
Meta snapshot:
Jade druid shits on everything new
Rogue quest shits on everything new and old.
Hunter quest sucks. Elementals suck.
Only other option is to try to stall out games with boring ass priest or warrior until people figure out mage quest.
I declare this expansion pretty poor.
Jade druid shits on everything new
Rogue quest shits on everything new and old.
Hunter quest sucks. Elementals suck.
Only other option is to try to stall out games with boring ass priest or warrior until people figure out mage quest.
I declare this expansion pretty poor.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Rogue quest combo is interesting
You have to have the right hands if you want to get it by turn 5
Hrmm....it definitely depends on your very first cards.
You have to have the right hands if you want to get it by turn 5
Hrmm....it definitely depends on your very first cards.
Feel this meta is worse version of shadowverse game, where most of shit in that game is tempo oriented deck, but the thing is the game is designed around back and forth tempo swing, I don't think Hearthstone has mechanic to support that kind of games, every game decided in blow out way.. no come back mechanic at all
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Yeah I have to agree
Despite the fun I have with rogue
it's absolute cancer. Atleast Jade Druid wasn't a complete auto win.
Despite the fun I have with rogue
it's absolute cancer. Atleast Jade Druid wasn't a complete auto win.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm getting my head bashed in as quest rogue by Warriors.
Aight, finally managed to open my 85 packs. Managed to get 5 legendaries, which I consider pretty lucky, since I only got like 2 with the 80 packs from Gadgetzan.
Got Tyrantus on my 63rd pack, Unite the Murlocs on my 33rd pack (took fcking 30 packs for another legendary QQ), Open the Gateway on my 25th pack, Fire Plume's Heart on my 18th pack and The Voraxx on my 8th pack.
Also got 16 epics.
No Pally stuff though sadly. :\
Got Tyrantus on my 63rd pack, Unite the Murlocs on my 33rd pack (took fcking 30 packs for another legendary QQ), Open the Gateway on my 25th pack, Fire Plume's Heart on my 18th pack and The Voraxx on my 8th pack.
Also got 16 epics.
No Pally stuff though sadly. :\
Lagspike_exe
Member
Looking forward to free packs.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So an interesting detail on Rogues quest-
every 5 turns the 'minion' needed gets reset. So on the 5th turn after using it(5th mana crystal and subsequently 10th mana crystal), you can place a different minion and have it proc the quest
every 5 turns the 'minion' needed gets reset. So on the 5th turn after using it(5th mana crystal and subsequently 10th mana crystal), you can place a different minion and have it proc the quest
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Cavern stacks with Murloc Warleader just saying. Water Quest Rogue is awesome.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/789814-quest-rogue
This is the current version of quest rogue I'm running. with the exception of the saps I've tried to build it to win the mirror which amounts to more consistently and quickly completing your quest as well as keeping your opponent's board tidy so they are less able to benefit from the quest when they complete it and finally having chargers for when you complete the quest with an empty board.
I could even see cutting a sap for a shiv since for the cycle and kill potential
You can also try to hard tech a dirty rat to disrupt their combo generation, either by pulling out a minion they've invested in or getting ferryman/brewmaster out of their hand. I might try it out tomorrow, it could help with aggro and otk mage
This is the current version of quest rogue I'm running. with the exception of the saps I've tried to build it to win the mirror which amounts to more consistently and quickly completing your quest as well as keeping your opponent's board tidy so they are less able to benefit from the quest when they complete it and finally having chargers for when you complete the quest with an empty board.
I could even see cutting a sap for a shiv since for the cycle and kill potential
You can also try to hard tech a dirty rat to disrupt their combo generation, either by pulling out a minion they've invested in or getting ferryman/brewmaster out of their hand. I might try it out tomorrow, it could help with aggro and otk mage
MonorailCat
Member
The paywall is real this time.
Bought 35 packs with gold, got mostly trash.
So now with my syl/rag dust I can scrape together one(!) quest deck.
And with three expansions a year there won't even be enough time to save gold for the next time. Won't even have a fraction of ungoro complete until then.
F2P is going to be rough from now on. Can't even imagine what the new player experience feels like.
Bought 35 packs with gold, got mostly trash.
So now with my syl/rag dust I can scrape together one(!) quest deck.
And with three expansions a year there won't even be enough time to save gold for the next time. Won't even have a fraction of ungoro complete until then.
F2P is going to be rough from now on. Can't even imagine what the new player experience feels like.
I don't think that's the case. It just shows you the name of the minion that's "winning" the quest. If there's a tie, I think it shows the first one.
As soon as another minion breaks the tie, that one gets shown.
Mine is extremely similar except:
No Patches (can't afford)
No Thalnos / Van Cleef (can't afford)
Only one Preparation (can't afford)
No Swashburglar (don't own the expansion)
No Sap
Instead of those 8 cards I have 2x Assassinate (filling the role of Sap), 2x of the more expensive brewmaster, and 2x each of the elementals that give you little fire elementals.
However, I'm not winning too much so I probably really do need the more expensive cards in your version or Dog's version. At minimum I want to earn another Preparation.
If you can reliably kill by turn 6 like that, why do you even need the quest card? =P
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I dunno.
I used 2 novice engineers, didnt shadowstep any of them. Turn 5 I put my 2nd swashbuckler down and hes counted for quest. Once I got a couple shadowsteps and the brewmastwers, I started doing the combo with my firefly. And I keep doing it. Isnt till turn 10 where he takes effect.
Hmm. Gonna have to test it out..
toddhunter
Member
You have discovered that aggro hunter works if you get good draws.
This is true.
The quest just gets in the way of this. It really sucks.
Yeah this was the nut draw ofc.
Tried pure aggro without the quest and you just run out of steam against the slower decks so quickly. Quest has been good to me in those matchups. Still figuring things out. It just gives the deck that bit of extra juice and the 1-drops are good for chaining with stampede later on in the game.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
This is my build
