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[The Mango Sentinel]

I would bring Renolock, Dragon Priest, Secret Mage, and Mill Rogue, though.


Don't play Wild, then. Tons of Priests, and there's lightning, dragonfire potion, excavated evil, holy Nova, and entomb to deal with. I actually want to make a deck that does nothing but clear the board and steal things until my opponent quits. I won't even include a win condition.

Well I play Wild quite a bit, but I think I've just been fortunate to not run into a bunch of Priests. I think I'm rank 7 at the moment and it's mostly Paladins, Warriors, and a Shaman every now and then.

And that deck you describe sounds absolutely fucking miserable. Actually I don't have a big problem with copious amounts of removal....it's all the card stealing (on and off the board) that drives me to madness.

 

[Karsticles]

Well I play Wild quite a bit, but I think I've just been fortunate to not run into a bunch of Priests. I think I'm rank 7 at the moment and it's mostly Paladins, Warriors, and a Shaman every now and then.

And that deck you describe sounds absolutely fucking miserable. Actually I don't have a big problem with copious amounts of removal....it's all the card stealing (on and off the board) that drives me to madness.

Reno N'Zoth Quest Priest is common, and it runs the deathrattle steal cards in my experience.

People tend to play control decks less toward the end of the month because they want to hit rank 5 and games are longer. Renolock probably destroys everything right now.

 

[MLO]

Can't seem to break rank 4 with my hunter. I just keep getting crushed by murloc and mid range paladin (even with the crab).

 

[scarlet]

My charge minion against the hunter's ungoro legendary. Which one attack 1st?

I assumed it was his so I didn't play king krush, but then I realized it supposed to be king krush 1st and it cost me a match

 

[squidyj]

the heck is this audio clip they play after a match in dreamhack?
It's so awkward

 

[SonicXtreme]

how many pirates are there at 3 and above? should i craft a second crawler for my hunter there? i don't haven't seen the need yet but i wonder if alot get played for pushing at end of month

shit that class is so annoying i almost might as well tech my black knight in instead lol, annoying as shit that both those types are so common and smart pirates dont touch first card

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

My charge minion against the hunter's ungoro legendary. Which one attack 1st?

I assumed it was his so I didn't play king krush, but then I realized it supposed to be king krush 1st and it cost me a match

the hunter legendary you're talking about attacks before you can use your minion

 

[SonicXtreme]

tolvir warden really helps me in the hunter mirror match. i also find it amusing that lots of hunters don't use tracking, that is one of the best spells ever made for any deck that uses drops higher than 3 esp without other draws

 

[spoon!]

My charge minion against the hunter's ungoro legendary. Which one attack 1st?

I assumed it was his so I didn't play king krush, but then I realized it supposed to be king krush 1st and it cost me a match

Dredd attacks before king krush. Unless you're talking about King mosh, which procs before dredd's effect.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Quest rogue is bullshit and will be nerfed. Minimally, the spell should not change all existing minions on the board to 5/5. It's very frustrating because if they draw the right cards you are fucked. There's nothing that can be done and you can't stop them, no matter what you have in your hand.

 

[ZealousD]

Quest rogue is bullshit and will be nerfed. Minimally, the spell should not change all existing minions on the board to 5/5. It's very frustrating because if they draw the right cards you are fucked. There's nothing that can be done and you can't stop them, no matter what you have in your hand.

It's unlikely to get nerfed. It's not even that good. Just annoying to play against.

 

[Jrmint]

Made it to Rank 5, feels great! I had 2 wins today in a row needed to get there, but I had ladder apprehension (do you guys get that?) Nevertheless I got them!
Murloc Paladin is stupid good!

Overall record for the month 109-91 (across all decks).

 

[Htown]

It's unlikely to get nerfed. It's not even that good. Just annoying to play against.

even if they do nerf it, I don't think it'd be anything other than "play the same minion five times" instead of 4.

 

[Yaboosh]

even if they do nerf it, I don't think it'd be anything other than "play the same minion five times" instead of 4.

That's significant.

 

[bjaelke]

"I should waste some gold and draft a Warrior deck"

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Urgh I got within 2 stars from legend a week ago, fell all the way back to rank 3 and lost any will to go for it again after two days of being stuck between 3 and 2.

 

[Zakalwe]

Forever 5. ;_;

I hit r4 for the first time ever though! So I'm happy with that for this season. I just hope the decks I've invested in (broken down wild stuff) let me build something that works in the new season.

Urgh I got within 2 stars from legend a week ago, fell all the way back to rank 3 and lost any will to go for it again after two days of being stuck between 3 and 2.

I've had that happen to me at r5 and that's bad enough, but that's really harsh. I think the pressure is partly why I can't bring myself to push much higher than where I am. Before 5 a losing streak isn't as painful because of the win bonus. I fell from r5 2 stars to 5 0 and I just couldn't bring myself to try to climb again.

Have you hit legend before? If not it's clear you can make it if you keep it up.

 

[Q8D3vil]

1 more win to legend, too many aggro

 

[Karsticles]

Quest rogue is bullshit and will be nerfed. Minimally, the spell should not change all existing minions on the board to 5/5. It's very frustrating because if they draw the right cards you are fucked. There's nothing that can be done and you can't stop them, no matter what you have in your hand.

It's unlikely to get nerfed. It's not even that good. Just annoying to play against.

The Blizzard forums are ~50% posts complaining about Quest Rogue.

 

[Blizzard]

The Blizzard forums are ~50% posts complaining about Quest Rogue.

I understand it's sometimes annoying, but they win relatively rarely and there were relatively few of them on the ladder at ranks 15-10 as far as I remember.

Has Blizzard nerfed low winrate decks before purely because people complained?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I've had that happen to me at r5 and that's bad enough, but that's really harsh. I think the pressure is partly why I can't bring myself to push much higher than where I am. Before 5 a losing streak isn't as painful because of the win bonus. I fell from r5 2 stars to 5 0 and I just couldn't bring myself to try to climb again.

Have you hit legend before? If not it's clear you can make it if you keep it up.

Tried a couple times but dropped it quickly when things stalled, was the first time I made a real push.

 

[Dahbomb]

Has Blizzard nerfed low winrate decks before purely because people complained?

If we are talking across the entire Ladder then Grim Patron Warrior was nerfed based on people's complaints.

 

[Blizzard]

If we are talking across the entire Ladder then Grim Patron Warrior was nerfed based on people's complaints.

Fair enough -- I wasn't born yet when that happened.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Fair enough -- I wasn't born yet when that happened.

If you ignore the fact of how absurdly powerful the deck was.

 

[Zakalwe]

Tried a couple times but dropped it quickly when things stalled, was the first time I made a real push.

Then you'll make it for sure if you can get the motivation again.

 

[Karsticles]

I would count Freeze Mage as a "low" win rate deck that got nerfed with the Ice Lance move to Wild.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

They didn't even nerf UT hunter for a while because they don't nerf based on a vocal playerbase demanding it. I think the only arguable exception is yogg due to how much it had taken over the competitive scene turning it sour.

I would count Freeze Mage as a "low" win rate deck that got nerfed with the Ice Lance move to Wild.

I would then count all the bad decks that ran ragnaros nerfed because rag got moved to wild.

Spoiler

kappa

 

[Q8D3vil]

4th time legend using Nzoth shaman

Decklist

 

[Cat Party]

Overall win rate is just one factor in the nerfing analysis. Decks that may only win 50% the time but piss off opposing players 100% of the time should be annihilated. That is generally the case with the zero interaction decks like Quest Rogue and Freeze Mage. And win rate is misleading because when a deck becomes popular, bad players start playing it and drive the rate down.

 

[Yaboosh]

If pirate warrior is running Loatheb and Grom in wild it is a bot 100% of the time. It is really weird.

There are usually other weird inclusions too like Rag or something stupid.

 

[veryslowhand]

If pirate warrior is running Loatheb and Grom in wild it is a bot 100% of the time. It is really weird.

There are usually other weird inclusions too like Rag or something stupid.

I run boom and gromash in wild PW

 

[Yaboosh]

I run boom and gromash in wild PW

Then I have some pretty startling news for you that you may not be ready for.

 

[Karsticles]

I played a Dragon Priest bot in Wild.

How did I know it was a bot? It continued to play dragons without an activator every single turn even though it continued to top deck them, even in the late game where it didn't make sense.

I would then count all the bad decks that ran ragnaros nerfed because rag got moved to wild.

Spoiler

kappa

Like 90% of my decks run Ragnaros. He's just so cool. :-X

 

[manhack]

If quest rogue isn't a great deck, then what is the harm in "nerfing" it? I haven't been happy to see it unless I was playing an aggro deck and that isn't often. Otherwise it feels really bad to play against.

Considering they didn't change Jade Idol I wouldn't expect quest rogue to get changed unless someone creates a super OP version of it.

 

[IceMarker]

Personally I just hate "solitaire" decks. I don't care about how strong certain combo, aggro, mid-range, or control decks as long as they have some level of "interactivity". I fucking hate decks where the opponent is playing practically their own version of the game while you sit there and find a way to avoid it with very limited and random interaction. Quest Rogue is a strong example of Hearthstone Solitaire and I will despise it no matter what it's winrate is until Blizzard either nerfs it or prints a card with clear counter-play against it.

Imagine if we had Loatheb in Standard.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Having the worst luck in Arena. Shimmering Elemental, Primordial Glyph, Cabalist's Tome, no AoE at all. Opponent uses Hallucination, they get Flamestrike.

Play aggressive? Opponent drops big threat after big threat.

Play slow? Opponent floods, I never get AoE.

 

[slightconfuse]

Noodle

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I'm happy paladin is good again but I'm not enjoying playing these murloc paladins at all.

 

[Yaboosh]

I'm happy paladin is good again but I'm not enjoying playing these murloc paladins at all.

At least there is a hate card for it.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

At least there is a hate card for it.

yay another 400 to 800 dust wasted on a narrow hate card.

 

[QFNS]

The climb to 5 at the end of the season has been realllly long. Not in terms of games, but time. I am dumb and chose to play Quest Warrior, and it was fine most of the time, but every time you hit that mirror or the occasional priest game you better settle in for a LOOOONG game. Nothing wrong with that but man this deck got way more popular recently or something. TONS of mirrors recently in the 9-5 range.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Has the Arena meta slowed? I'm seeing a lot of anti aggro cards.

With big defensive taunts, games seem to take longer now too.

 

[SuperSonic1305]

Should I just quit playing Hearthstone?

 

[KuroNeeko]

The climb to 5 at the end of the season has been realllly long. Not in terms of games, but time. I am dumb and chose to play Quest Warrior, and it was fine most of the time, but every time you hit that mirror or the occasional priest game you better settle in for a LOOOONG game. Nothing wrong with that but man this deck got way more popular recently or something. TONS of mirrors recently in the 9-5 range.

Yeah, as a Priest, I was starting to hope for Pirate Warrior over quest just because of how long and draining the games were. Games got faster when I switched to Dragon Priest though.

 

[scarlet]

Can't wait to dust my golden epic from reward and craft Lyra and 2 SV.

Time to save all those golds for next expansion.

 

[Raxus]

Did my first Fireside Gathering today. Was really fun. Went 5-4 and got a neat necklace out of the deal.

Miracle Rogue was my workhorse for the day but I wish I came with a stronger answer to murloc paladin. I adjusted my druid deck but I need that extra oomph to push it over the edge.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Somehow Quest Rogue is the only deck I'm enjoying right now. Any form of paladin, usually my favourite class, is kinda boring and targeted af and I'm really not in the mood for PW or the new miracle rogue.

Overall not particularly happy with this expansion.

 

[Infinite Stars]

Yeah, as a Priest, I was starting to hope for Pirate Warrior over quest just because of how long and draining the games were. Games got faster when I switched to Dragon Priest though.

Do you happen to have a Decklist for Dragon Priest right now? I'm running Dragon Priest and having a decent win rate (I haven't tracked it though, but I'd say 60%? I've gone up from 18-13 since changing to my current list over Taunt Warrior)

 

[Blizzard]

I'm happy paladin is good again but I'm not enjoying playing these murloc paladins at all.

What good deck DO you enjoy playing against?

 

[Pooya]

Paladin is well rounded and solid overall but I think mage is the best deck. PsyGuenter deck is really good against everything. The deck just won dreamhack too.

I don't want to run eater of secrets damnit.