BreezyLimbo
Banned
Quest Shaman feels so dirty
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Hearthstone |OT9| Our raid wiped in Icecrown Citadel
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It's my favourite deck in Wild right nowPiloted Shredder, Sylvanas, Dr. Boom, Reno..
N'zoth reno priest is plenty good, I enjoy it too. But the quest itself just feels irrelevant almost always.
Zoolock has not being a thing since like 7 month now.. what made you believe its gonna come back before there is new support
I counting late karazan day where mid shaman already so optimized and people already scarred to play zòolock into it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Zoolock was a thing again before the release of UnGoro
What?
When is that happen.
There is some meme zoo kazakus play but zoolock is completely dead diring gadgetzan meta.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
up till the last month then Zoo sprung up again. You could see a decent amount of it while climbing, Tempo even had it in their meta snapshot.
I had a very successful run of zoo renolock that I'm keeping in wild, it was actually more capable than I thought.
I kinda remember after stb nerf people think its might worth running zoolock aģain
But I don't think that significant enough to object the zoolock is having little presence since late karazhan.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm not contesting that but it hasn't been completely dead. Losing PO is a much heavier deathknell than the previous meta was so I don't expect a return personally.
SonicXtreme
Member
tracking isn't about the 1 mana slot at all though. It's about having the flexibility to grab the exact card for the situation, and hunter has so many situational cards; maybe it's late game and jeweled macaw is worth a gamble, maybe you have huffer on board and can pull out razormaw to charge him, maybe you just unleashed the hounds and getting animal comp for the 2/4 would hit the spot, after turn 4 or so it's one of the best spells in the entire game, any hunter that's not a purebred face hunter should be using at least one. plus with all the 1 drops in midranges nowadays it's fantastic to be able to skip over one or two late game and just pluck highmane for instance.
and it really helps with the fact that hunter has absolutely no card draw. topdecking alleycat on turn 7 is death, tracking into highmane is
))BananasWithGuns
Member
It's due to the meta slowing down so much. I don't think it's really that great right now though. Lack of Mulch and Living Roots hurts pretty bad.
Plus it crumples pretty hard against Mage and Paladin.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Everytime people have played Living Mana against me it has not worked well for the opponent. I almost always have a board clear and I remember the mana not recovering when they die.
Yeah it's a bit of a dead draw against paladin and priest
Works situational against other aggro decks of they can't kill you next turn
I think I was just unlucky as mage then, because both druids had great starts and drew all the armor cards (the 1 drops and feral rages). One of them was running naturalize (lel)
Not really complaining tbh. I feel the meta is pretty great at the moment if you like variety. It is only when I see the same class a bit that I get worried something is going to take over.
Infinite Stars
Member
If I could stop getting paired against Every Aggro deck on the ladder while also drawing every 5 Drop in my opening that would be great.
Every time I come back to Hearthstone there's yet another "Fuck what you're doing, I'm killing you on Turn 4/5", and just.. ugh. At least in Standard anyways, as Quest Rogue/Quest Mage/Quest Warrior all just aim to solitaire against you.
Priest remaining in the perpetual trash heap is so bad though, ugh.
Every time I come back to Hearthstone there's yet another "Fuck what you're doing, I'm killing you on Turn 4/5", and just.. ugh. At least in Standard anyways, as Quest Rogue/Quest Mage/Quest Warrior all just aim to solitaire against you.
Priest remaining in the perpetual trash heap is so bad though, ugh.
BigJonsson
Member
Dusted almost all my golden cards that I already have 2 non-gold versions of, ended up with enough dust for a legendary, 2 epics and a few rares
Sunkeeper Tarim is pretty good!
I also almost got beat by a C'Thun warrior, I was very surprised to see someone still playing that in standard
Sunkeeper Tarim is pretty good!
I also almost got beat by a C'Thun warrior, I was very surprised to see someone still playing that in standard
To counter your experience, I'm facing a ton of priests and losing badly to them no matter which aggro deck I use, and they always have their starter cards.
I'm only rank 14 though.
Jade Druid Destroy mage tho they had all the heal and the Jade will eventually too big to clear
Its also solid vs pally if they had non nuts start.
I started playing Hearthstone for the day. HEY EVERYONE YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT MACAW GAVE ME IN MY SECOND GAME.
On another note, I think I need to add Nesting Roc back to my midrange hunter deck. I got wrecked by it twice today attempting to play hunter myself.
Professor Lich
Member
Just had something odd happen. Was playing a C'Thun Warrior and he didn't play any of his early game until after he played his C'Thun the first time. It was a deck based around Doomcallers, so I can understand getting C'Thun out faster than normal, but if he just played them at the beginning of the game, he would of won the first time he played it. Maybe it's how the deck works, just seems odd to me.
Karsticles
Member
Infinite Stars
Member
Okay, real talk: why are half of the "get x minions with y trait" summon and the other half play? I get that the issue is Hunter would just rush for Tokens/Alley Cat, but it's just inconsistent that Warrior/Hunter have to be played vs Summoned.
I mean, I know there's some level of randomness at play with draws, but it's faster for me to just concede and requeue then actually try to win against most Aggro decks as Priest.
I keep getting 4-7 Wins followed by about 4 straight losses at the the barrier to 15 range (17 0Stars to 16 3Stars roughly) and it's just.. ugh. Especially when I draw an opening of Double Drakenoid Operative +Dragonfire potion, Mulligan it, and then get Book Wyrm, Primordial Drake, and Holy Nova.To counter your experience, I'm facing a ton of priests and losing badly to them no matter which aggro deck I use, and they always have their starter cards.
I'm only rank 14 though.
I mean, I know there's some level of randomness at play with draws, but it's faster for me to just concede and requeue then actually try to win against most Aggro decks as Priest.
BigJonsson
Member
Uhhh why did I just face "Your opponent" on ranked? How do you hide your username?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
They were named "Your opponent", I am certain.
BigJonsson
Member
No, their rank was hidden too!
Like this
That came up on google, seems people aren't really sure why this happens except maybe server issues
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Perhaps some weird disconnect.
AntiFacebook
Member
The rogue quest is overpowered. It is too easy to activate it and its effect is way too strong.
Karsticles
Member
I beat it with Dragon Priest just playing minions on curve and ignoring the board. I think Quest Rogue is problematic in the same way Jade Druid is, but I don't think it's overpowered, if that makes sense.
tracking isn't about the 1 mana slot at all though. It's about having the flexibility to grab the exact card for the situation, and hunter has so many situational cards; maybe it's late game and jeweled macaw is worth a gamble, maybe you have huffer on board and can pull out razormaw to charge him, maybe you just unleashed the hounds and getting animal comp for the 2/4 would hit the spot, after turn 4 or so it's one of the best spells in the entire game, any hunter that's not a purebred face hunter should be using at least one. plus with all the 1 drops in midranges nowadays it's fantastic to be able to skip over one or two late game and just pluck highmane for instance.
and it really helps with the fact that hunter has absolutely no card draw. topdecking alleycat on turn 7 is death, tracking into highmane is
Going to test it out. Really need to draw that Stampeeding kodo against all the super boring taunt warriors.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I feel like I should just play Hunter since Blizzard made it so you're guaranteed to start with a 1 drop and Crackling Razormaw in your hand.
For one thing, a lot of classes (rogue, mage, warrior, warlock, druid, paladin, shaman) have the ability to kill your 1-drop with certain cards.
For another thing, I tried hunter again and lost like 5 in a row today. Sadly such an ideal starting hand is hardly guaranteed, nor will it necessarily stick, nor will you necessarily get any useful adaptations.
hey_monkey
Banned
Buck up, there's always people like me who don't pay attention and finish the quest with ten cards in hand like I just did. ><
BananasWithGuns
Member
You realize I'm being facetious right?
Also, if the Hunter goes first then Alleycat is next to impossible to remove on turn 1 without giving up a lot of card advantage. You're left to pray they don't have Razormaw in hand. Sadly, they always do.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Played the same hunter twice in a row last night. Was stomps in both ways.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/m9ErGFD4T5aymB8K9qVmvk - round 1 went to him, couldn't have had much better draw on his part
https://hsreplay.net/replay/nEYMzctTLvSLYxYUmHviXC - round 2 was a slaughter, because his stupid tech cards are worthless. I probably should have won both but he had lucked out hard.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/m9ErGFD4T5aymB8K9qVmvk - round 1 went to him, couldn't have had much better draw on his part
https://hsreplay.net/replay/nEYMzctTLvSLYxYUmHviXC - round 2 was a slaughter, because his stupid tech cards are worthless. I probably should have won both but he had lucked out hard.
seriously. its like a string of unwinnable fucking games tonight.
everyone has the nuts.
This being the internet, I can never tell who's joking or exaggerating.
Take your second sentence for example -- I have to assume you're joking there as well. They will TRY to have Razormaw in hand, but won't always succeed.
BananasWithGuns
Member
This being the internet, I can never tell who's joking or exaggerating.
Take your second sentence for example -- I have to assume you're joking there as well. They will TRY to have Razormaw in hand, but won't always succeed.
I'm half joking, but in all seriousness it's ridiculously easy for Hunter to curve out their early game these days. It becomes frustrating extremely quickly. Even more so when they pull something like Alleycat into Hyena which has happened to me more than enough for one lifetime.
I tried that very thing maybe 3 times tonight, and I don't think even a 6/4 hyena ever hit face due to removal / taunt / whatever. It's to the point where I'm afraid to play hyena because of how often it gets removed. The only reliable way to do it is either use call the hounds or have a board that's about to die attacking the enemy board, and if the enemy board has built up then you're typically in big trouble anyway unless you can manage a clean wipe.
The call the hounds combo might work but requires turn 4-5.
BananasWithGuns
Member
I don't think you should worry too much about Hyena being removed. If they're forced to burn removal on a 2 drop then that's one less they have for Highmane or something you buffed with Houndmaster.
Plus there's always the chance they don't have an answer for Hyena and you just blow them out. Like today I had someone go Alleycat into Razormaw into Hyena + Coin + Hyena and then trade in their 3 minions. Instant game over.
I usually save up a couple of quests I dislike and reroll them for easier completion. It's rare that I get 3 simultaneous quests I dislike.
I would just re-roll quests for classes I don't like or quests which takes too much time to complete. Not entirely gold efficient, but I rather have fun while playing the game.
That's the point of it. Hyena is a card the opponent HAS to remove or it gets out of control. That helps free up your later game cards.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I have access to a bunch of meta decks but I just keep going back to quest rogue. Something about it is just fun to play.
paperboywriter
Member
am I the only one who dislikes the current meta? feel like its no fun at all right now.
There's more diversity but I just find the decks to be too straightforward and basic. Taking the common Mage deck for example...it just feels like there is nothing interesting there. The cards are strong but there is just a missing factor towards pieces of the deck interacting with each other. For as obnoxious as Reno could be with the one turn swing power you saw some really interesting stuff coming out of the decks that used him. Brann combo, Kazzakus, Solia...the outcome of these cards required way more thought. Now it's just about pushing survivability and straight damage in decks. There is hardly any utility that gets put into decks right now, so even in the meta slowed down it's not like interesting things are suddenly happening.