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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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I actually like the new Brightwing talents. Being able to phase shift more often means better presence in large maps, and more frequent (buffed) shields and clairvoyance. And Pixie Dust is better now, being bounceable AND being able to grant ability DR or a good speed boost).Brightwing just seems so lackluster healing wise these days.Sad times.
The changes grant good support to the team in different ways, just less so in raw healing.
Nah it doesn't need to be nerfed, it's not even the best talent at that tier. 35% atk speed is good, but it's not as good as 40% atk speed and 75% reduced disables, which synergizes much better with butcher's brand anyway.
super-famicom
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Agreed. While she's not the healing powerhouse she was before, a good BW really benefits the team.
jaundicejuice
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I don't like picking Abattoir over Final Assault. While it's tempting to increase your meat stack from 25 to 35 and retain some of it when you die, you lose out on that massive cast range for your charge.
Obviously I can't be sure and need to experiment more but with how hots teamfights work is mostly nuking one hero so it's very beneficial to have 35% attack speed buff all the time with the brand instead of a limited portion of the fight. Not to mention your ability to nuke camps and buildings with blood frenzy.
But it's massive from the get go... I've never felt the need to increase the range it's already guaranteed if you see the enemy. Abattoir is just godlike.
SlickShoes
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The teams that quick match is building me the last few days are soul destroying. Every time I have went the butcher I end up against 4 ranged and get smashed because I can't even get close due to our team never having a tank, unless im supposed to be the tank.
I can't play qm anymore at all it's just insane and full RNG.
SlickShoes
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I am convinced it's getting worse, my ping fluctuates so much I dont want to play HL and ruin other folks ranked games or i'd just play that.
Im currently in a game with 4 ranged assassins and afk ranged specialist. It's pointless.
Always funny to read gaffers complain about randoms. What are you guys doing? Logging on, ignore /neogaf channel, queue for QM, get destroyed, and then run into the forums to complain?
just join /neogaf channel and play with your gafs.
[edit] not relevant to posts above btw. Noticed some posts back a page or so
just join /neogaf channel and play with your gafs.
[edit] not relevant to posts above btw. Noticed some posts back a page or so
jaundicejuice
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Out of morbid curiosity I just checked out hotdogs and saw that I am a gold player, no longer a bronze league all-star! Valla is also one of my most played and highly successful heroes at 78% which makes me kind of sad in a Drow Ranger/Sniper kind of way. And I play Kael'thas almost to my detriment.
You think it is, that the initial charge radius is large but you're living a lie.
You think it is, that the initial charge radius is large but you're living a lie.
I see it as a luxury talent not something you actually need if you position well.
Yep, so bought. One of the best skins in the game. Even though I rarely play him.
He seems to be in a good spot right now though, particularly on BoE.
This is very true. It also helps if you use some VOIP, whether it's our mumble or whatever else. It helps a lot actually.
On the flip side, not everyone gets along or has the same amount of time to play. Then there's the added chasm in skill that you have with a forum this big. We have everything from dozens of bronze and silver league players to others in high master league. Getting a group together that disparate can be real hit and miss and lead to some salty dogs and/or very bad experiences as newer players get farmed out by the higher MMR they were unwittingly matched into.
This is exactly my main use for hotdogs. It tells me you are good at support, fairly decent at assassins and specialists, and you should never EVER fucking play a warrior that's not Anub'arak or Stitches (pre nerf). Also, stay away from Sylvanas plzkthx.
More charge radius = more chance to feed IMO. You are already walking the tight rope anyway with the distance. There's never been a time I haven't been able to charge a backline player if I wanted to...the question is was it worth it? Probably no. Considering that is the case more often than not, I don't really see the need for even more range.
Most folks seem to be going Abattoir or Brutal Strike at 7. If you want a charge talent you should be taking Savage Charge at 13. It wrecks.
You're in luck, Kael'thas positioning guide from Tempo Storm! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFeyGQuW9M
InvaderZimmer
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Okay Zagara is a blast, I'm sad I haven't played her more up to this point.
super-famicom
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I finally decided to upload my replays onto Hotslogs. Wow, my MMR sucks. Bronze League... Gotta do less solo QM I guess.
Don't sweat it mine sucks too. I play ALL heroes with steady rotation so I don't have to learn anyone properly :/
I mean what do you think I do? Solo Q all day?
No, I group regularly with at least 5 different people. From duo to 5 stack. Sometimes it just doesn't matter, and lately it hasn't.
RumblingRosco
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I have some free time Sunday between 9 AM and 1 PM Central time. Anyone plan to be on around then? I'll go as Abathur and buff the shit out of you.
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted: www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3byv00/maphacking_in_hots_proof/
RumblingRosco
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Such map hack wow.
TurtleSnatcher
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Because NeoGAF was down for like 12+ hours when it was originally posted on reddit.
But yeah, this is pretty blatant hacking. Really sad.
EDIT: Makes me wonder if this is also a bug where the player is just able to see their map in this one game and/or able to see them after spawning from the fountain for a short time. I'm noticing the Nova is always spawning or coming from the main base when she beelines into the person she is attacking.
How do I get that gud?
jaundicejuice
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More of a charge radius means more fun. You guys are being such Debbie Downers.
A lot of that is common sense. Relying on free living bomb to harass and zone (I laughed at the part where he said "do this until you get ganked"), not wasting mp or having Living Bomb on CD, or any ability on CD really, trying to keep back, even when pushing, trying to keep your team between you and the enemy team.
But then there's things that come from having a team of people to play with and things that don't work in solo queue. I think the biggest is passing on an objective to soak exp so you can hit level 16. No group of randoms in QM is going to do that. Some games it feels like it takes forever to get Flamethrower and Ignite. Also you can't feel free to be a little more aggressive with your positioning because someone's in lane with you when you're solo queue. You always, always, always have to be aware of where you can get jumped from and what's the quickest way back to safety. If there's no quick way back, and you can't see anyone on the map, you don't push forward unless you're pushing as 5.
Edit: Isn't the map hack pretty much Starcraft 2 engine legacy?
A lot of that is common sense. Relying on free living bomb to harass and zone (I laughed at the part where he said "do this until you get ganked"), not wasting mp or having Living Bomb on CD, or any ability on CD really, trying to keep back, even when pushing, trying to keep your team between you and the enemy team.
But then there's things that come from having a team of people to play with and things that don't work in solo queue. I think the biggest is passing on an objective to soak exp so you can hit level 16. No group of randoms in QM is going to do that. Some games it feels like it takes forever to get Flamethrower and Ignite. Also you can't feel free to be a little more aggressive with your positioning because someone's in lane with you when you're solo queue. You always, always, always have to be aware of where you can get jumped from and what's the quickest way back to safety. If there's no quick way back, and you can't see anyone on the map, you don't push forward unless you're pushing as 5.
Edit: Isn't the map hack pretty much Starcraft 2 engine legacy?
Askherserenity
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This is the biggest bummer
http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthe...a_maphacks_will_never_go_away_because_of_the/
I know it'll probably never happen but I wish they had designed HotS from the ground up. I wonder what other drawbacks the SC2 engine will cause.
I'm sure this is also why the game just has the worst lag spikes of any game I've played since forever.
http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthe...a_maphacks_will_never_go_away_because_of_the/
I know it'll probably never happen but I wish they had designed HotS from the ground up. I wonder what other drawbacks the SC2 engine will cause.
I'm sure this is also why the game just has the worst lag spikes of any game I've played since forever.
jaundicejuice
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HotS is based on the SC2 engine because it started as a feature for SC2's arcade mode but gradually became its own thing. As for the issues, we know what they are; the shitty reconnect system and the fact that SC2 maphackers have a headstart with HotS because of its engine.
That said, anyone caught hacking will get banned, they will lose all progress and have to start over again. I would imagine the more you play, the less likely you'll encounter a cheater. You won't encounter it in Hero League and will be more likely to encounter it in the lower levels of Quick Match MMR...where you probably don't even need a maphack to pubstomp as a smurf Nova.
As for your lag I would ask where you live in a general sense and what server clusters are you typically playing on? (Ctrl + Alt + F while in-game) If your answer is ORD1 and you don't live anywhere near the north east of the US or in eastern Canada, well, Chicago, Illinois, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and not enough server clusters are your answer.
That said, anyone caught hacking will get banned, they will lose all progress and have to start over again. I would imagine the more you play, the less likely you'll encounter a cheater. You won't encounter it in Hero League and will be more likely to encounter it in the lower levels of Quick Match MMR...where you probably don't even need a maphack to pubstomp as a smurf Nova.
As for your lag I would ask where you live in a general sense and what server clusters are you typically playing on? (Ctrl + Alt + F while in-game) If your answer is ORD1 and you don't live anywhere near the north east of the US or in eastern Canada, well, Chicago, Illinois, Time Warner Cable, AT&T and not enough server clusters are your answer.
Whoa whoa jaundicejuice. Gat damn. Too much truth.
The truth will set you free boys.
Titan Arena IV - final day.
C9 Maelstrom vs compLexity going on right now. Tempo Storm plays 2ARC next with the two winners meeting in the finals.
MLG.tv link.
C9 Maelstrom vs compLexity going on right now. Tempo Storm plays 2ARC next with the two winners meeting in the finals.
MLG.tv link.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Finally broke a 10 or so game loss streak with a win. That was really bad. Of the last 20 games or something I lost 15
I would assume there's a grace period of new heroes being auto banned for the first weeks of release.
hypotc
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So good! Bought Murky today and he's awesome to play as! I love it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIDrsbNwNvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIDrsbNwNvk
There's a 1 week auto-ban on new heroes.
jaundicejuice
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I just got a "You have been dropped from the match" the only options being to disconnect and receive a penalty or look at the games options. I alt-tabbed out, killed the .exe through the task manager and was able to rejoin and replay the rest of the match. Sooo, uhhh, what?
1-week ban on heroes and maps generally. Depends on the tournament and what they choose. IIRC Schamtoo said he wasn't banning either for this tournament. Customarily it is up to the tournament organizer/admin - it's just that in HOTS nearly every tournament has made the rule uniform.
The esports caster voice is the best thing about his stream. Shit cracks me up.
mysocksarepink
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So, recently I've taken a huge hit in FPS. Ive heard it could be due to latency. Any potential fixes?
i5-2500k / ocd 980ti. Don't know why I'm stuttering so hard
i5-2500k / ocd 980ti. Don't know why I'm stuttering so hard
somebody teach me Zeratul... he's the only hero that I really suck at. like a lot. I die faster than Murky with him... I feel you need a decent team to be any good with him and that rarely happens in qm. :\ Nova has so much more escape and other bs, Zeratul not much. either you finish in 2-3 hits or you die. Team fights are very tricky to me...
The idea is similar, you poke with your spells until the kill is ready. And then you go ham.
You just need to be really fast with Blink.
with focused attack and follow through you sneak up Q auto attack then blink away, if it's safe you can Q auto attack then W auto attack. Get wormhole at 13 then you can blink auto q auto w auto and wormhole out, if it's not safe just blink auto Q and wormhole out.
Then at 16 you can choose either double bombs or rending cleave based on how safe you feel using W, then at 20 if you went double bombs you should get nexus blades and if you went rending cleave you should get rewind.
jaundicejuice
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Just treat Zeratul like you would a Nova. The only real difference between the two is the proximity to your target. You have to be able to burst a hero down quickly and get out.
Zeratul is amazing for trolling Abathur because his blink doesn't break cloak, so you can get behind enemy forts easily and scout around.
At 16 he should spike.
Zeratul is amazing for trolling Abathur because his blink doesn't break cloak, so you can get behind enemy forts easily and scout around.
At 16 he should spike.
if you never die, then no
Went to 24 last game. Started dying more than I would have liked to.
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