Of course, but you don't have a choice in QM, sadly.
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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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Of course, but you don't have a choice in QM, sadly.
Complistic
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Ah, i used to. That must be why.
Maximus.
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Zeratul is fucking insane. Such a great and fun character. I went like 46 and 3 the first game I used him, our team was dominating though haha. Won 3 games in a row with a high kill count and man he is just so satisfying. Top three characters: Johanna, Butcher and now Zeratul.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yeah, 3400 in solo QM with Abby is nuts. I don't play him as much anymore because I'm usually queued with RL friends, but my MMR has remained near 2100 for almost a year. I don't use Hotslogs but people I play with do and my only chars with win rates near 60 are Jaina, Kerrigan,and Rehgar.
My weird build has remained successful, so I really only felt the B4B change. Envenom is fucking terrible right now though. Someone stuck it on me as Abathur and it didn't even kill me
My weird build has remained successful, so I really only felt the B4B change. Envenom is fucking terrible right now though. Someone stuck it on me as Abathur and it didn't even kill me
YaY! I haven't touched the character in forever cuz it just feels like an auto-loss at this point.
jaundicejuice
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I hope they add Deckard and Adria to this game eventually, I just want to hear some banter about death by foul butterfly magics.
He is quite fun. Nothing like hanging back a bit and picking off stragglers as they try to run back and heal up. So good!
jaundicejuice
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I gotta learn to step back from this game when I'm starting to get angry but every time I get into a losing streak I keep playing one more round for a win. Sorry no smashed desk pics. A bad match of Dota can last up to an hour and be enough to ward you off playing more. It's so easy to play two or three matches in HotS in that same time frame.
She probably had unstoppable? It's her trait on a 20s cd. Gives her that and a shield.
Maximus.
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Yea man, or just coming into a fight and setting up behind your enemy so they can't escape. Feels so good.
With Johanna being in rotation this week, it is interesting to see people use her. A lot of people just over estimate her tankiness I guess and then end up dying a lot or are just bad. I rarely ever die with her, even with a bad team. Part of the reason I enjoy using her so much. Damage is low, but paired with someone else, usually makes a solid duo.
jaundicejuice
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Oh man, I don't know what's better in this game than absolutely wrecking the team a toxic asshole from your last match is on. I just don't know what's better than that. I think this sums it up nicely...
Finaika
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It lasts longer.
jaundicejuice
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Same amount of damage but over 10 seconds instead of 5. Which is fine, she's a specialist not an assassin. I get Murky having that skill but not Sylvanas.
super-famicom
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Also, Brightwing lost a lot of talents, including Envenom, but gained many new ones to replace them.
Starting to hate Hero League and believing in a "elo hell." Another game I almost top DPS on my team, on a non assassin character. Picked all defense talents. I consistently seem to do amazing in games, but all my team mates suck. Literally lost 9/10 games today. Constant raynors who ult buildings and never leave lane, and team comps where people only go all Assassin. I can only support or tank! Cant do both! Like what the fuck.
Went from rank 9-16 in one day. Game just refuses to let me rank up. (Note I have played a lot, I own all the heroes and none are below level 8. So it's rather annoying getting matched with horrible bad people)
Went from rank 9-16 in one day. Game just refuses to let me rank up. (Note I have played a lot, I own all the heroes and none are below level 8. So it's rather annoying getting matched with horrible bad people)
I don't think that was it, Gorge text says it does not work on "massive heroes", I have no idea who counts as massive. It never worked on Johanna, the cursor just turns to disabled all the time :\
Johanna can definitely be swallowed - it will be because her trait was active and she was unstoppable.
Sothis Krieg
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Johanna was swallowed two times last night by the ennemy stiches so it works on her.
I'm not sure. I got eaten as Zeratul last night, and then their Stitches got eaten by out team's Stitches while I was still inside, so apparently that works too.
RumblingRosco
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3400 Abathur
/flex
This is true, but, even in a bad composition, Abathur should be able to soak more XP than any other hero besides maybe The Lost Vikings. He can make up for a bad composition in some regards because of this.
Yeah, but I guess that first part is what I mean. Most people assume someone playing Abathur will suck, so overall, expectations are low for Abathur. But when a competent Abathur player appears, well, things go a lot better than anticipated. Most maps require a physical presence (Dragonshire, the Mines, Temple, Tomb, etc.) - that's an inherent weakness of Abathur, but he can hopefully make up for it elsewhere.
Yeah, the auto-attack buff is so strong on some heroes. With the popularity of The Butcher, Abathur just got buffed, basically.
Solo Q Abathur is the best Abathur. The opposing team expects you to suck so they play sloppy and your team expects you to suck so they play harder. Then, when you're actually a good Abathur, that pushes things over the edge.
Abathur is all about psychology! Oh, and I upload to HotsLogs sometimes, but it was well after I started playing that I realized lots of replays of my matches had already been uploaded by someone else. So, that was convenient.
Well that video went pretty quick on my watch queue. Been thinking on getting this hero to help with my map awareness.
Samurai G0SU
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finally played some of Johanna last night.
Was pretty fun, but i like my ranged heroes better. However, i never want to touch Nova... just seeing her on any team gives me the cringe.
Was pretty fun, but i like my ranged heroes better. However, i never want to touch Nova... just seeing her on any team gives me the cringe.
Wait, you are at rank 9 and are getting Raynors Raynoring still? What in the hell. (Do you use hotslogs? I'm curious if your rank and MMR are out of whack and you're being essentially brought down to earth because the MMR is much lower than your Blizz rank.)
I'm the same. Rank 6 and getting matched with people in their first few games of hero league, and according the hotslogs my MMR isn't that and (2700).
The issue is placement games. Because HoTS doesn't have anyone, someone who wins their first few games ends up with ridiculously high MMR and placed into games with people who have 200 games under their belt and a rank below 10. It happens almost every single game.
They really need to fix the matchmaking all round, it's actually harming the game I think - it's so appallingly bad. There's only so many games you can play where you are matched with someone who actually doesn't know the basics of the game before you switch off and play something else.
Croatoan
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I played with a friend who is rank 19 and we won 5 of 6 games in a row and I was the one leading in everything. I am a long time LoL player, so I don't think it is skill. Do I fuck up? Yes, but I am not the Tychus that never joins team fight or the nova that has no clue what my role is.
I am no moba pro, like I don't belong sub rank 10 or anything. But perpetually in the lower 30s is depressing.
You cannot carry in this game so one bad team member means gg. Two bad team members means blow out. Good players shouldn't be punished for bad ones.
I just went 33 and 4 with lili 65k hero damage and 170k healing against a team that had 3 tanks and lost.
Wanna know why? Raynor with 16 deaths (just ran into enemy team and died, said he was the initiator and not our ETC) so every fight started 4 v 5. No matter how good the 4 of us left are 4v5 is not good odds.
Think I will only play ranked with at least one other person I know from now on.
Yeah, I've experienced the same thing in HL. My mmr isn't that bad in HL either, worse than my QM mmr but still plat level.
It definitely is due to the placement matches I think. People seem to climb mmr far too quickly during that period. Ranks too I suppose since the ranked points change in the patch which only really affects people still in the placement period.
It definitely is due to the placement matches I think. People seem to climb mmr far too quickly during that period. Ranks too I suppose since the ranked points change in the patch which only really affects people still in the placement period.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Yeah, I generally play Abby solo queue also, mostly because it almost feels rude to pick him in a group with people because it pretty much feels like you're forcing them to play certain characters. I've got like 500-something games with him at this point and my win rate has never gotten much past 50% (I'm sure the 50-60 games I played after that one patch that nerfed him into the ground didn't help), but I just find the way he plays so much more interesting than any other character in the game and can't stop picking him.
I will say it's fun how things have changed recently. It used to be that people would bitch constantly about him whenever a team fight goes south, but now lots of people stand up for him because of his exp soak and attack buffs.
I also enjoy it when people notice the wacky ass places I'm parked across the map and start laughing. I think the danger of being found in your little shadow adds a lot to the enjoyment of the character also, especially when you get a feel for when someone is hunting you and you get out in the knick of time.
I enjoyed your video (forgive me, my sound is busted right now, but I followed it all the same), Teamfight with Monstrosity is my standard build but I keep trying to make UE work on that map, which may be what my problem is considering I feel siege pressure is really important. I hadn't bothered trying locust brood for defense and I hadn't thought about the Monstrosity's siege bonuses working on the Immortal, will have to try this later.
So I finally broke down with all the aby talk and bought the guy with gold along pajamathur. Tried him in an AI match and left it with a headache. Once I understand him better he'll make me a better player I'm sure but for now the mini map seem so small instead of hilariously big.
Thanks for the video Soka, it's rare to see first hand abathur gameplay.
Thanks for the video Soka, it's rare to see first hand abathur gameplay.
dmosher
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Team "Stronk Tenk" is ready for the NA open this weekend, good luck to anyone else planning on fielding a roster
http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/championship/na-open-july/team/9220626/
http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/championship/na-open-july/team/9220626/
Orochinagis
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Pajamathur bought, I feel dirty but he my main
Team "Stronk Tenk" is ready for the NA open this weekend, good luck to anyone else planning on fielding a roster
http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/championship/na-open-july/team/9220626/
Gl bois
AbundantChoice
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One thing i'd like to see is more heroes who "break" with the usual MOBA narrative. It's one of the things that makes an Abathur or a Lost Vikings so interesting.
For example, why isn't there a char that's really built around interacting with creeps in some way? Azmodan, Raynor, and Sylvanas all have little bits of this, but what about a hero really built around it? There's tons of options there, from being able to re-route creeps (send them to another lane to double up, or send them at a merc camp, or have them follow you like a retinue), to being able to wall off opposing creeps, to having creeps grant extra vision, or make them sacrificial bombs, etc. Post level 10 creeps become mostly an afterthought, and it'd be interesting to find a way to see them as something other than basic XP soak bags.
For example, why isn't there a char that's really built around interacting with creeps in some way? Azmodan, Raynor, and Sylvanas all have little bits of this, but what about a hero really built around it? There's tons of options there, from being able to re-route creeps (send them to another lane to double up, or send them at a merc camp, or have them follow you like a retinue), to being able to wall off opposing creeps, to having creeps grant extra vision, or make them sacrificial bombs, etc. Post level 10 creeps become mostly an afterthought, and it'd be interesting to find a way to see them as something other than basic XP soak bags.
Orochinagis
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I will love to a Heroe dedicated to use the minions to push lanes, Abathur can do it in some extend but didnt increase the minion health or attack like azmodan.
There is already a Broodmother, maybe a Cerebrate from Starcraft, a Lich or Ysera mind controlling the minions.
There is already a Broodmother, maybe a Cerebrate from Starcraft, a Lich or Ysera mind controlling the minions.
Well, they nerfed his Hook cooldown and I believe one or two others.
Then his damage and his health. Basically everything about him was nerfed because he rekt everyone for a good bit.
Now they need to revert the nerfs to his health and/or damage to get him back into play. He does have some long cooldowns too, though.
Team "Stronk Tenk" is ready for the NA open this weekend, good luck to anyone else planning on fielding a roster
http://play.eslgaming.com/heroesofthestorm/americas/championship/na-open-july/team/9220626/
We're going out in the first round baby. RIP in peace.
jaundicejuice
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I like this.
Have you heard the good word about Sylvanas' Possession? You can convert an entire wave! An entire wave! All it takes is seven little clicks and you probably just have to camp a lane and ignore things like your teammates, objectives, and, you know, winning.
AbundantChoice
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I never miss a creep / Inspire speeds my feet /
your pings I just won't see / mmm mmm / your pings I will not see / mmm mmm
Because my rounds are gonna Penetrate-ate-ate
and i'll show up to the team fights late-late-late
and Hyperion is gonna strafe-afe-afe-afe
Take a loss, take a loss, ooh-oh-oh
super-famicom
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Fine Ham Abounds
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You've had this in a text file for 6 months waiting for the right time to post this, haven't you
It's ok, we all do it
RumblingRosco
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My solo queue QM Abathur brother, I feel your struggle and am inspired by your resolve. It is quite fun though when people give props to you as a solo queue QM Abathur player - feels real good. I'll add, I'm not sure Locust Brood was the best choice in the video I uploaded. It worked OK, but I never got to putting Abathur up front far enough to really capitalize on it. Looking back, I probably should have chosen something else.
I like Monstrosity more simply because I can set it and forget it... and if my opponent's forget it too, well, it gets out of hand and will likely take down a structure. Also, yes, using it to attack the Immortal has a purpose since it can do so much damage when it gets enough stacks of his buff. The Immortals do a ton of damage, but they're glass cannons, so a buffed Monstrosity can really put the hurt on them.
Glad I inspired you and I hope the video was helpful. Stick with it, he has a high learning curve. I'm still far from being any sort of an expert, but I feel like I'm no longer a hindrance to my team. I should really get Pajamathur, he's so dang cute.
Abathur being so unique is what drew me to him. He was the first hero I purchased (gold or money) and I don't regret it at all. There was a period right after his Stab/Spike Burst damage got nerfed (early this year I think or very late last year) that I was a bit pissed, but things have leveled out since then considerably.
Abathur mains are best mains.
Abathur used to have "Promote" as a level 4 talent. It was pretty great I hear, but I never used Abathur back when that was the case so I never tested it personally. I can see how it could be nice with him. I agree with your overall idea, I'd love to to see more heroes that are lane-pushing/unit-buffing.
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