The matchmaker *does* prioritise matching group sizes, over every other requirement. That's the problem currently - the game cares more about matching my group of 3 with a 2 than it does skill level. This has led to some incredibly unfun, toxic games where according to hotslogs we're being matched with people with 1000 MMR lower than us (who for some reason are always the ones issuing orders, swearing and being toxic).
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The matchmaker *does* prioritise matching group sizes, over every other requirement. That's the problem currently - the game cares more about matching my group of 3 with a 2 than it does skill level. This has led to some incredibly unfun, toxic games where according to hotslogs we're being matched with people with 1000 MMR lower than us (who for some reason are always the ones issuing orders, swearing and being toxic).
Aba is easily the strongest solo que hero in QM. He's the only "carry" hero in the game I think, I mean we were behind 3-4 levels with no keeps in DK and still won because I backdoored their forts/keeps while babysitting my team and ultimate evoing teamfights. My team was complete rubbish and I almost gave up, the game must've lasted for 40 minutes or something...
So close to Platinum league in my Quick Match MMR... (sitting at 2167, and Platinum seems to begin at 2172). But I'm in the middle of a 6 win streak as Kharazim, which means I'm due for a series of losses any time now.
I know Platinum isn't *that* good, but it's still my goal for now.
I know Platinum isn't *that* good, but it's still my goal for now.
Any improvement is really good, it means you're able to absorb things that ppl around you arent absorbing
KillerDark
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Extremely disappointed with the new change to HL... I typically play with 2 friends and now our only option is QM which is just not as fun due to how often it puts awful comps together. The right solution is just to add a solo queue and leave HL the way it is :\. Then you would have solo/party MMR, problem solved. I don't care about rank at all but I do want to be able to play a draft mode with my friends.
This is exactly why HL needs to kick you out (and an unranked draft needs to be added.)
It's the right move- you're playing a mode because it has draft, not because you want to play competitively. That ends up being a huge problem when there are tons of people doing that. (Jake even went off on HL last night on THH - negativity like that is NOT normal for him.) "I picked Tyrael for my Diablo Daily" should not be something you hear in HL.
KillerDark
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I overstated not caring about rank somewhat, I do want to win of course. QM is just awful though for comps most of the time. Usually I just do my quests in QM (unless they happen to fall into heroes I am good at and pick in HL) and play HL the rest of the time. No, you should not ever hear stuff like that in HL haha, that would be really frustrating. I definitely agree with you though, there is/was a problem when it matches solo q's against stacks, that isn't fun for anyone. I just disagree that this is the correct solution. Oh well, like you said, hopefully they add an unranked draft with this change, I don't have much faith they will though.
Just have no bans, 10 is nothing.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Outdoor Miner
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Morning Heroes games are the worst. I play Diablo in the morning now if I need my clicky fix.
Really well-written Reddit post on HOTS's lack of community tools, competitive play, and the issues with hero retention it creates: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/3ji5od/an_open_letter_to_blizzard_player_retention/
THH was putting them on blast for this last night.
THH was putting them on blast for this last night.
He was sick and was like "Yup we totally blew it in the finals". Apparently the entire TS house has PAX Flu.
Not really. He said that the Sylvanas ban mid tournament hurt them, but even with it available they'd have likely still lost.
He also said he would've liked if C9 could've played MVP Black because he thinks they would've had a much better shot as their styles are similar (aggressive early game) and Tempo's early game is just too bad to deal with MVP's aggressiveness currently.
Unless I missed it, they didn't comment at all about how C9 seems to keep throwing games against Tempostorm by not finishing when they can. It almost feels like C9 has a mental block - they certainly didn't hesitate against liquid, but they constantly let Tempostorm back into games that should by all rights be over.
davepoobond
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Funny randomly seeing my guild leader post in there
Familienoberhauptvogel
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But they stopped relying on Sylvanas a while ago. They played her in just 2 games in the august open. Is sylvanas supposed to be great against double/triple warrior?
Also the early aggressiveness doesn't explain the Kharazim pick in game 2.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Ah that makes sense but isn't the 3 ranged comp tantamount to their weakness against early aggression and melee compositions. Which the meta seems to be shifting towards.
Gonna be interesting how long Dreadnaught's shotcalling can keep them on top if they don't adapt. Well Rexxar is ranged so maybe he's just what they need.
Robottiimu2000
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Hard to tell. On the one hand, we just had a major patch when Kharazim was released, so the pattern would be that Rexxar's release wouldn't have a major patch. But on the other hand, they usually don't talk about specifics unless they're about to go live, and the game potentially needs to be patched to turn off the Eternal Conflict event anyway.
Bought Johanna yesterday. Really enjoyed played with her so far, she really can take a hit. Pretty awesome to pull enemies close too in Team Fights and help your team to kill everything while tanking the hits.
I'm buying Sylvanas next, but it's going to take a while to get 10k gold again
I'm buying Sylvanas next, but it's going to take a while to get 10k gold again
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Why would they nerf monk?
His winrate is below Uther and the healing numbers are very inflated.
His winrate is below Uther and the healing numbers are very inflated.
Agreed. Why would they nerf him?
He's hardly a pubstomper and he appears not to be very viable in competitive either.
He works well only with specific comps and his heroic is somewhere between Tassadar/Tyrande "we don't have one" and Rehgar/Uther/Malfurion/Lili "we have one" in that it's one of the most telegraphed and avoidable skills in the game, so even in the best of circumstances you're looking at like a 50-70% success rate with landing it successfully unless your target just gets blown out.
Personally, if you were right and they took the bat to him, I would be fine with a trait heal nerf if they added a larger buffer on Divine Palm once it's applied (and an overlay for targets). His healing seems to be a bit like Brightwing's pre-nerf healing in that there is a degree of fluff and even that is taken away to some degree if he can't get in to auto attack regularly.
Dice
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Only gods play Uther and people with Stockholm syndrome play Li Li. Kharazim's winrate probably sucks because he can do too many different things and people don't know how to manage it, like Tassadar, but when a person know what's up his heals are basically like old Brightwing.
If that were true, you'd expect him to have a higher winrate and place on the charts as you go up league by league.
Bronze: 47.9%. 2nd highest support behind Li Li
Silver: 50.9%. 3rd highest support behind Li Li and Brightwing
Gold: 51.8%. 3rd highest support behind Li Li and Uther
Platinum: 52.4%. 2nd highest support behind Li Li.
Diamond: 52.9%. 4th highest support behind Li Li, Brightwing, Uther
Master: 53.7%. 5th highest support behind Li Li, Uther, Tyrande, Brightwing
His winrate does raise as you go up in skill, but not nearly as fast as other characters.
Told Alur yesterday but here's an update on my HL placement games. All 20 were solo queued while before the update it was a mix of solo and mostly 2 sometimes 3 person parties.
Finished 16-4 and got rank 36. Same rank as before.
I only have 30 wins total in HL(20 with kael lol) so the placement games were a but under half of what I already played. I think I was 15-17 before the update. We will see how much my MMR changed
In all honesty, even though it's been said, I really feel like I was the catalyst for our team almost every single game. Maybe I'm just a try hard but it says something that I was able to go 16-4 from such a huge change before....right? There was even a game where I rekt with a team then queue again and see the same 3 people partied on the enemy team. We destroyed them. I had a game yesterday as Kerrigan where I went 43-0. The other team literally did not get a kill....
Finished 16-4 and got rank 36. Same rank as before.
I only have 30 wins total in HL(20 with kael lol) so the placement games were a but under half of what I already played. I think I was 15-17 before the update. We will see how much my MMR changed
In all honesty, even though it's been said, I really feel like I was the catalyst for our team almost every single game. Maybe I'm just a try hard but it says something that I was able to go 16-4 from such a huge change before....right? There was even a game where I rekt with a team then queue again and see the same 3 people partied on the enemy team. We destroyed them. I had a game yesterday as Kerrigan where I went 43-0. The other team literally did not get a kill....
Maybe me being at 1300 HL has something to do with it lmao
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