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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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subwilde

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Maybe? Idk. You've definitely gotten better since we first played with you. I'm sure at that MMR you're able to carry a bit harder. You're definitely above 1300 for sure.

I appreciate all your guys' compliments! It helps to learn when I play with high tier players like yourself. Maybe a MMR reset would be good for someone like me. Especially cause the system seems to be screwed if your team has a wide range of MMR.

BTW, after watching you play Kerri I def have a better grasp on where to place that W. The 43-0 game I only missed 2 combos. Hopefully I can still do it with people that are expecting it to come haha
 

brian!

Member
Mainly he has no cc and his ults are only gamechanging if the opponent makes mistakes, his numbers are nice but he cannot prevent a smarter team from disengaging from a healwar fight

I guess it kind of looks like im saying he's bad which i dont mean to, just that there are slew of better more pickable options -> he doesnt need a nerf
 

Milly79

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I appreciate all your guys' compliments! It helps to learn when I play with high tier players like yourself. Maybe a MMR reset would be good for someone like me. Especially cause the system seems to be screwed if your team has a wide range of MMR.

BTW, after watching you play Kerri I def have a better grasp on where to place that W. The 43-0 game I only missed 2 combos. Hopefully I can still do it with people that are expecting it to come haha

I've still got miles to go on learning how to place it during an extended conflict, but it's really easy to hit when they're running straight back. :)

It's so easy to avoid. And usually very telegraphed.

Full Monk DD is the most satisfying shit ever.
 
Monk paired with a long range specialist is a nightmate to dael against, I though his healing Ult is pretty OP since it cant be interrupted and make invulnerable the healing object
 

Ketch

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I guess my 1-6, or 2-5 record so far is an indicator of me being a shitter.

Nah

IAlmost 3200 QM, 2500 HL what gives?

Gotta remember it's two completely different buckets

Maybe it just means more people play HL then QM. Or you can pull out wins others normally don't in the face of the QM bullshit randomness. Or you've just played a lot more QM then HL and it'll even out eventually
 

brian!

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Monk paired with a long range specialist is a nightmate to dael against, I though his healing Ult is pretty OP since it cant be interrupted and make invulnerable the healing object

Yeah i like it on things like raynor or zag if you have ways to prevent them from dying again, but dshield feels superior in every way to me

It's been working fine for me in all games im in, it's just that it's a preventable ult
 

Milly79

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Monk paired with a long range specialist is a nightmate to dael against, I though his healing Ult is pretty OP since it cant be interrupted and make invulnerable the healing object

I don't think it's OP at all. It's very avoidable and most players will let it wear out. On the flip side, if you apply it too early and don't dive back in to proc it, you just wasted it as well. Unlike Ancestral, you literally have to apply it at the last second possible to get the most value.

Nah

Gotta remember it's two completely different buckets

Maybe it just means more people play HL then QM. Or you can pull out wins others normally don't in the face of the QM bullshit randomness. Or you've just played a lot more QM then HL and it'll even out eventually

I get its two separate brackets. I'm 4 shy of 1400 GP across QM and HL and I want to say I'm close to 300 GP in HL, so that's definitely a factor. At one point before the reset I was at rank 3 then I dropped to 13 at the worst. Ended at 9 or 10, I want to say. I solo q'd a fair bit, also quit in the draft phase a fair bit when people decide they want to play a more structured game mode (draft) and want to run a comp without tank or heals. I think I would've had rank 1 for sure had I not done that as often as I did.

Still, frustrating to hear how easy/how much more enjoyable it is for people when my experience is the opposite almost 100% of the time. I've kinda given up on chasing it. It doesn't really mean all that much and I'm still torn between having a draft/Qing up as whatever I want.
 
I don't think it's OP at all. It's very avoidable and most players will let it wear out. On the flip side, if you apply it too early and don't dive back in to proc it, you just wasted it as well. Unlike Ancestral, you literally have to apply it at the last second possible to get the most value.

But your objetive can die if you cast it a sec later compared with monk's yet Ancestral heals more
 

Cerato

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Early in the last game I played, I jumped a laning monk as Kerrigan, landed my combo, and envenomed him, and he nearly killed me. (I don't normally pick envenom)

So, as I'm sitting at the fountain, I watch Diablo come and try the same thing, and he kills the Diablo. Just stands there, auto attacking and healing.

Even if his winrate isn't great, it's pretty silly that his healing spec can murder an assassin and a warrior, back to back. I suspect his single target DPS, as a healer, could be cooled off a bit.
 

brian!

Member
You dont have to hold ancestral for the last second or even use it during an active fight in some cases, i totally suck at it tho i always hold onto it too long
 
Early in the last game I played, I jumped a laning monk as Kerrigan, landed my combo, and envenomed him, and he nearly killed me. (I don't normally pick envenom)

So, as I'm sitting at the fountain, I watch Diablo come and try the same thing, and he kills the Diablo. Just stands there, auto attacking and healing.

Even if his winrate isn't great, it's pretty silly that his healing spec can murder an assassin and a warrior, back to back. I suspect his single target DPS, as a healer, could be cooled off a bit.

He's a lane bully no doubt he outsustains a lot.


oh god my wallet, I have to find a job.
 

Milly79

Member
Hmm. Not sure how I feel about him. May be the first I wait until the price drop.

inb4 Alur makes some snarky comment
 

Alavard

Member
I'd assume he'll be overtuned and stupid like Leoric to make up for what looks like a hyper-underwhelming kit.

Even the graphical effects, except maybe for Bestial Wrath all look underwhelming.

He's the first new Hero I haven't been hyped for since... Jaina I guess. Which is fine, I guess, if some people actually are.
 

Ketch

Member
Rexar looks hot. But I'm not coming back until I beat metal gear. I need to know what's in that game/story. I NEED it.
 

subwilde

Member
Rexar looks hot. But I'm not coming back until I beat metal gear. I need to know what's in that game/story. I NEED it.

I've decided to pass on MGS V right now and instead replay thru MG Rising. Oh boy did I miss that game. I feel like Illidan while playing :p

How much metal gear have you played previously?
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Where are you guys reading about the monk nerfs? I looked everywhere on Reddit.
 

Alur

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There are no Monk nerfs proposed officially. I think Dice was just speculating there should be.

EDIT: In other news, this Sphero BB-8 is cool as hell. <3. He's gonna patrol my office while I BM Milly and Proto. No sneak attacks.
 
Looks kinda underwhelming like a sustain DPS like he's the best hero in the game.

Yup, I totally agree.

Only gods play Uther and people with Stockholm syndrome play Li Li. Kharazim's winrate probably sucks because he can do too many different things and people don't know how to manage it, like Tassadar, but when a person know what's up his heals are basically like old Brightwing.

Lili is a great early-game lane bully. Her blind shuts down right clicks in general and right click heroes at key moments, so she's extremely useful against certain line-ups. With Fast Feet and Shake It Off, Lili can be hard to lock down and kill. She can shrug off a Butcher charge and keep skipping away all the while talking about flowers and adventure. Her heal can be focused with positioning. You just hold q and stand in the right spot. While her ultimate heal isn't always reliable, it's still pretty good.

Lili's not my favourite support to play as but she's pretty good. Has definite strengths and weaknesses.
 

Alur

Member
I think some of the "Rexxar is underwhelming" comments are overlooking the part where he's basically two heroes to micro manage. Maybe not all, but some. His abilities aren't gonna be too overly intricate or awesome, it'd just be too complicated for this game and Blizzard's vision.

I think he looks alright. He's not Leoric for sure.
 
Rexxar is basically another Gazlowe, a merc farmer. Except Rexxar is potentially more useful in teamfights. You're not choosing between mercing or teamfight with Rexxar. You choose between a burst of pet DPS or a teamwide slow/invis reveal/track. I think most of the fun is going to come with body blocking with Misha's charge.
 

Alur

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I don't know how they can top Leoric for variety/fun factor, but I suppose if it was gonna be done on a warrior this'd be the chance. I don't see it in the kit/preview, but my hope is the juggling will make it a lot more satisfying.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Oh, a warrior? I thought Rexxar was gonna be a Assassin that explains the CC and camp management.

But there are so many warriors in a row now, Jo, Leo and now Rexxar.

I'm guessing after Artanis, there won't be any more for a while, given there will be more warriors than any other character type:

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Milly79

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I don't know how they can top Leoric for variety/fun factor, but I suppose if it was gonna be done on a warrior this'd be the chance. I don't see it in the kit/preview, but my hope is the juggling will make it a lot more satisfying.

Blahblahblah :D
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
He will be a warrior too? oh god.

Yes, the two formally announced heroes (sans Rexxar) are Artanis (the game's first StarCraft Warrior) and The Medic (StarCraft Support).

They've said they want more supports before implementing bans in Hero League, but I'm not sure what number they consider sufficient.
 
Okay finally caught up on THH, great episode but Kevin totally surprised me. Yeah he still got some stuff wrong but he called the others out when the rest did too. Also he seems to be the only one among them that has any clue about EU.

I don't get the hate some of you got for him.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
When is Rexxar out? Feeling slightly burned on Diablo and starting to miss Heroes
 

Alavard

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Rehgar -- Sale Price: 4.19 EUR / 3.19 GBP

Iron Claw Rehgar -- Sale Price: 3.69 EUR / 2.70 GBP

Lunar Tiger -- Sale Price: 4.99 EUR / 3.69 GBP

So, I just caught this now (due to a post in the official forums), but the Lunar Tiger is also supposed to be removed from the shop on the same day. So most likely there will be something else on sale in lieu of the Lunar Tiger.
 
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