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[Alur]

edit 2: wait, hold up... where the hell is my Heroes of the Storm Blizzcon avatar? Like the one we got 2014...?

Apparently there isn't one this time =/

It's kind of a real bummer since you can only JUST NOW show off your portraits due to the loading screen changes, but oh well. At least the Nexus Battle Beast is awesome. IMO it's even better than the Charger. The skin looks better on it...plus we already have like 15 horses.

Could you explain that a bit more? I'm East Coast too, what do you mean "moving away from TWC"? What is US8? Is there a way to fix what I'm experiencing?

I lived on the East Coast and had Time Warner Cable. Now I live on the West Coast and have Cox. My internet is the same speed, but Time Warner Cable routes through a specific node (XO Communications) that doesn't play nice with HOTS or at least didn't as of this spring/summer.

Your internet being a tad slower probably does hurt you, but I'd venture you are probably either getting matched on a server that isn't good for you or you are being routed through a node that sucks for HOTS as well...if it's the latter there's nothing you can do about it unfortunately. And nothing Blizzard can do either.

Death wing and alexstrasa are both popular legendary cards in hearthstone.

Yep that'd be my guess (but I've never seen anyone play Deathwing), though it would be pretty fucking cool to get two dragons in the game.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Of course they'll add Alextrasza, she combines the necessary qualities of being a fire breathing dragon and offering another chance to display gratuitous female booty, it's like Nerd Pander 101

 

[Ketch]

What if all of the pins are new heroes!?


Theyre Probably just new characters for over watch tho since hots is dead

 

[protonium]

Link to the pins: http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/blog/19923314/blizzard-pin-trading-10-21-2015

Has anyone here bought any of the pins? Some of them look neat but I dislike the mystery/random collectibles.

 

[Ketch]

Has anyone here bought any of the pins? Some of them look neat but I dislike the mystery/random collectibles.

it's a trap. don't buy that shit. what are you gonna do with a winston pin? it'll sit on your desk/shelf for 3 year and then you'll throw it in the trash.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

He got himself a card in HS as well.

Korialstrasz doesn't have a Hearthstone card.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

it's a trap. don't buy that shit. what are you gonna do with a winston pin? it'll sit on your desk/shelf for 3 year and then you'll throw it in the trash.

I like how this is completely random yet sounds like something Yoshichan has done already

 

[Alur]

I'm hopeful they add Ketchistrasz or Milliastrasz before the end of the year.

 

[Fixed1979]

Korialstrasz doesn't have a Hearthstone card.

Woops, was thinking Alexstrasza's Champion. Completely different

 

[Yoshichan]

*gives QM a chance*

Yup, this is still Heroes of the Storm.

No wonder the passion for this game is dead. So sick of this shit game already and I just now came from a long break.

 

[kirblar]

Ya QM is just baaad.

 

[Yoshichan]

Yeah, I'm done.

I'll gladly take this Hallow's End event and shove it up my own asshole - along with everything that I've bought for this game during this week and every other week.

Thanks for putting up with me folks, I've had my fun but this is it. Only dailies for me from now on, just like Hearthstone, WoW and every other Blizzard game.

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

QM is still really fun, you just can't take it serious. You are playing with and against complete randoms. Expect to play with trolls, afks, noobs, and level 1 hero picks.

 

[Nirolak]

Someone on Reddit pointed out that the Blizzcon pins could be hinting to some upcoming Hero releases. It's a long shot, but makes a little sense.

The pins for this Blizzcon are Thrall, Jaina, Alexstrasza, Deathwing, Raynor, Artanis, the Barbarian (male), Demon Hunter, Tracer, and Winston. The guy on Reddit pointed out Deathwing and Alexstrasza are weird choices given that Deathwing was killed off expansions ago in WoW, and Alexstrasza hasn't been important for a while either. So take it with a grain of salt, but it's interesting to consider them as possible heroes, esp given that there's old datamined info referring to Deathwing, like a soundfile of Brightwing's response to killing Deathwing.

Link to the pins: http://us.battle.net/blizzcon/en/blog/19923314/blizzard-pin-trading-10-21-2015

Link to the Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofth...ew_blizzcon_pins_may_hint_at_upcoming_heroes/

That would be pretty close to a list of Blizzard's most popular characters in general, so I probably wouldn't read into it too much.

 

[Alavard]

That would be pretty close to a list of Blizzard's most popular characters in general, so I probably wouldn't read into it too much.

1 more piece of info - Last year's selection was the following:

Kerrigan, Nova, Zeratul, Sylvanas, Illidan, Arthas, Tyrael, and Diablo.

Of those, all of them were in HotS already, except for Sylvanas, who was announced at Blizzcon.

I'm still with you that this is probably reading too much into it, but when you take both sets as a whole, Deathwing and Alex feel a little bit out of left field, if you're talking about the most iconic characters.

 

[Alur]

Yeah, I'm done.

I'll gladly take this Hallow's End event and shove it up my own asshole - along with everything that I've bought for this game during this week and every other week.

Thanks for putting up with me folks, I've had my fun but this is it. Only dailies for me from now on, just like Hearthstone, WoW and every other Blizzard game.

Not saying, just saying:

That is most impressive. That's the longest streak of wins to loss ratio I've seen (that isn't at starter level) in quite some time. I look forward to the inevitable turn to the dark side and colorful names you will have for your teammates and Blizzard in a few posts/days.

huehue. We still <3 you Yoshi.

 

[Alavard]

Yeah, I'm done.

I'll gladly take this Hallow's End event and shove it up my own asshole - along with everything that I've bought for this game during this week and every other week.

Thanks for putting up with me folks, I've had my fun but this is it. Only dailies for me from now on, just like Hearthstone, WoW and every other Blizzard game.

So you're playing dailies to earn gold to buy new things just to use in dailies...? Seems to be counter-productive if you're not enjoying the game anymore.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Is it that time of the month again?

QM is fine imo.

 

[Mengy]

Yeah, I'm done.

I'll gladly take this Hallow's End event and shove it up my own asshole - along with everything that I've bought for this game during this week and every other week.

Thanks for putting up with me folks, I've had my fun but this is it. Only dailies for me from now on, just like Hearthstone, WoW and every other Blizzard game.

Is it that time of the month again?

QM is fine imo.

Did something change today? The only problem I have with QM's are the long queue times, I wish it was faster to get into a QM. Other than that I feel they are a lot of fun and just fine. If Yoshi is just mad about bad players in QM's well then it's time to get realistic, playing with randoms is always going to be unpredictable, that's just part of online gaming in any online game today.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It was a menstruation joke, just stop taking me serious guys.

 

[Nirolak]

1 more piece of info - Last year's selection was the following:

Kerrigan, Nova, Zeratul, Sylvanas, Illidan, Arthas, Tyrael, and Diablo.

Of those, all of them were in HotS already, except for Sylvanas, who was announced at Blizzcon.

I'm still with you that this is probably reading too much into it, but when you take both sets as a whole, Deathwing and Alex feel a little bit out of left field, if you're talking about the most iconic characters.

I'll agree on Alexstrazsa, especially since she has a special collector's pin and she's notably in human form, whereas they've said their main issue with dragons is that they're too big.

Deathwing though even has a gigantic funkopop toy on their store:

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

QM is a cesspool you wade through because you want to play one specific character. Hero League means seeing the 10 most effective characters in the flavor of the month meta in almost every game. The obvious solutions are improved matchmaking which will result in much longer wait times on QM, and focusing on balance more than consistently releasing undercooked heroes every 3-4 weeks like they have since launch.

This will only change when they start noticing people have caught on that there's no point buying any new character for at least a week and usually more like a month and it starts messing with their business model.

 

[Alur]

Who has consistently came out undercooked from Blizzard?

The last three, maybe? Rexxar, Artanis, and Medic? And still all three could succeed and arguably the only truly shitty one was Rexxar due to the numerous bugs.

Before that we were rolling with heroes like Johanna, Leoric, Sylvanas and Kael'thas to name a few and they most definitely were not undercooked. The Butcher and Monk were just fine, slotting right in the middle.

Not sure I can agree with ya on that assessment.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Yes, I specifically mean the latest 3 or 4 heroes. They have simply not meshed well or felt finished in even the same ballpark as those before. Basically whichever we've gotten since Leoric.

I don't know if it's a creativity problem or a workforce problem or a schedule problem, but it's tangible.

 

[Milly79]

I'm hopeful they add Ketchistrasz or Milliastrasz before the end of the year.

Me too. My trait would be endless ping.

Ketch's would be endless optimism/not giving a fuck.

 

[Ketch]

My trait would make it so you can play me for two matches per day.


He's played over 500 hours of HotS and considers the game bad.

 

[Milly79]

My trait would make it so you can play me for two matches per day.

Or that.

 

[Ketch]

Yea I like "not giving a fuck" as a trait. Click D to not give a fuck, where nothing happens and your not phased by it for 45 seconds. 0 sec cooldown.

 

[Alavard]

Yes, I specifically mean the latest 3 or 4 heroes. They have simply not meshed well or felt finished in even the same ballpark as those before. Basically whichever we've gotten since Leoric.

I don't know if it's a creativity problem or a workforce problem or a schedule problem, but it's tangible.

I'll give you Rexxar and Artanis feeling a little unpolished (Rexxar with all the bugs and needing the better Misha control we have now, and Artanis's kit not really synergizing great), but Morales seemed pretty polished to me. Her numbers just needed some adjustments. Heck, the art team even put a little bit of extra polish on her by giving her the different colored talents for talents that affect the same ability on one tier.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

Yea I like "not giving a fuck" as a trait. Click D to not give a fuck, where nothing happens and your not phased by it for 45 seconds. 0 sec cooldown.

So basically what you're saying is someone playing you would literally spend the whole game holding their D

 

[Alur]

Yes, I specifically mean the latest 3 or 4 heroes. They have simply not meshed well or felt finished in even the same ballpark as those before. Basically whichever we've gotten since Leoric.

I don't know if it's a creativity problem or a workforce problem or a schedule problem, but it's tangible.

I dunno man. Counting Leoric, I think their last few heroes outside of Artanis have been some of their most creative.

Leoric is awesome to play, very different. Monk is quite fun and also came out properly balanced. Rexxar was fun to play even with bugs and is now super strong in regular games with the fixes. He's definitely unique in this game. He was also fixed very quickly not once but twice, especially based on typical Blizzard time and turnaround.

Medic is interesting to play, but does indeed feel a bit half baked or like they thought the lack of self-healing wouldn't be as big of a deal as it is. Artanis is insanely fun to play, but legit feels like they wanted to make a hero do flashy stuff but didn't know how to balance the abilities around that so they made them weak as hell.

I just can't see the "tangible" part of the problem. To me the last three look like they wanted to go outside of the box a bit and take some risks. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Every hero doesn't have to be super strong. Someone is always gonna be on the bottom of the pile no matter how good they balance.

 

[kirblar]

I appreciate that they haven't been doing the "OP AS FUCK" thing on the last few heroes. Morales/Artanis kinda seem to have basic design issues tho - they're things tuning won't address. (Medic + Melee doesn't really work, Artanis is basically a W + D bot)

 

[Alur]

Artanis is basically a W + D bot

And they nerfed the W bug, making him even worse. Can agree with that.

I like how they've been doing with heroes though. Can't say I have many complaints outside of why the fuck are there so many warriors omg can we get some more assassins please...

Issues with matchmaking and lack of features is a different story and one I'm hopeful is about to be addressed.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I'll give you Rexxar and Artanis feeling a little unpolished (Rexxar with all the bugs and needing the better Misha control we have now, and Artanis's kit not really synergizing great), but Morales seemed pretty polished to me. Her numbers just needed some adjustments. Heck, the art team even put a little bit of extra polish on her by giving her the different colored talents for talents that affect the same ability on one tier.

Medic is interesting enough that I bought her, I won't argue that. She desperately needed the HP adjustment though, and still feels like half an idea propped up with a knockback. But honestly between Rexxar, Monk, and Artanis, the only element of any of them which feels it even deserves attention in any game is Divine Palm. They are virtual nonentities right now.

I'm not saying they are fucking terrible and can't hold their own, I just see a character as being effective if it requires people to learn how they generally work to adjust their play to counter them properly. I see these characters and have to do nothing but walk away from them and focus someone else. Maybe it's not an issue for someone playing them, their mechanics may be interesting enough, but it sure as hell leaves me completely uninterested in them.

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but Leoric is the last character with a kit that felt creative to me.

 

[Yoshichan]

The Sylv, Kael, Johanna, Leoric batch was insane

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

The Sylv, Kael, Johanna, Leoric batch was insane

I mean this could be fair enough honestly, maybe I was just spoiled for a while there.

 

[kirblar]

The Sylv, Kael, Johanna, Leoric batch was insane

Yeah. They even buffed Jaina after she wasn't overtuned enough.

 

[Alur]

I'm not sure why you'd walk away from Monk or Medic and focus elsewhere. It sounds like you're referring to damage or threat, but that's not what either does. One forces you to dive her or lose. That may be all she does besides back door, but it forces a reaction for sure. The other forces you to play around two ults which can turn a fight, and the immediate ability to finish most non tanks if they hang in range. I find that pretty interesting.

Then there's Rexxar. You can't walk away from him or ignore him or he'll wreck your whole team with CC. He's engaging to play and I find him fun to play around at least. I'm definitely not ignoring him in games or team fights.

I feel like you're kinda short changing these heroes a bit.

 

[Ketch]

Artanis feels like illidan to me. Like a beefier but les relentless version of illidan but still.

 

[Alur]

We're like an hour and a half away from the beginning of the HOTS World Championships.

Basically a year of some of our lives have been spent watching this scene and some of these teams. Are you excited...er, excuse me, HYPE? Who do you think will take the top three spots?

Can C9 continue to snowball and not throw it away late? Is Team DK really as good as MVP Black? Did Bob? changing their moniker curse them for the EU Championships and Blizzcon? Will Tempo Storm murder each other on stage or just feed in game?

These questions and more will be answered......SOON (TM).

 

[Ketch]

What matches are today? Also lets play medic+hammer

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Medic is interesting enough that I bought her, I won't argue that. She desperately needed the HP adjustment though, and still feels like half an idea propped up with a knockback. But honestly between Rexxar, Monk, and Artanis, the only element of any of them which feels it even deserves attention in any game is Divine Palm. They are virtual nonentities right now.

I'm not saying they are fucking terrible and can't hold their own, I just see a character as being effective if it requires people to learn how they generally work to adjust their play to counter them properly. I see these characters and have to do nothing but walk away from them and focus someone else. Maybe it's not an issue for someone playing them, their mechanics may be interesting enough, but it sure as hell leaves me completely uninterested in them.

Maybe I'm being pedantic, but Leoric is the last character with a kit that felt creative to me.

Uhm Monk is second support in EU and should generally be picked before 2nd bans.

 

[brian!]

Im hype but im at dang work, go c9
Go ts toooo

 

[Alur]

Honestly don't know which matches are first Ketch.

And Medic + Hammer sounds like a 40 degree day.

 

[Ketch]

i have specialist dailies

 

[Alur]

Me and Milly are on right now if you wanna go some.

 

[Milly79]

I'm here to help.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

I'm not sure why you'd walk away from Monk or Medic and focus elsewhere. It sounds like you're referring to damage or threat, but that's not what either does. One forces you to dive her or lose. That may be all she does besides back door, but it forces a reaction for sure. The other forces you to play around two ults which can turn a fight, and the immediate ability to finish most non tanks if they hang in range. I find that pretty interesting.

Then there's Rexxar. You can't walk away from him or ignore him or he'll wreck your whole team with CC. He's engaging to play and I find him fun to play around at least. I'm definitely not ignoring him in games or team fights.

I feel like you're kinda short changing these heroes a bit.

Which of these characters are being played in Hero League right now? I'm not making a point, I'm asking. Certainly I'm mostly a Quick Match peon, and I wouldn't expect the QM playerbase to necessarily be representing characters at their best.

Bottom line is that I find Rexxar and Artanis to be priority #4 or 5 on the kill list in every game in QM right now. Artanis? You won't know he's there until 10, and you won't have to pay attention until 20. Rexxar? What does he do again beside have a bear and get killed after everyone else? Monk doesn't seem that good at healing if he's not hitting you, and Morales is so position dependent you can fuck her up just walking at her or between her and her target. Both of them are just sort of there until they use their admittedly good ults.

Like I said, maybe they're all great fun to play mechanically, I wouldn't know as of right now for anyone but Morales. I like to think the rare outliers - the people playing these characters that you can tell are good by the first or second engagement - are the norm in HL because they at least make you have to think about their characters.

Beyond that, I just honestly don't find the actual kits of these characters that interesting. Morales I had high hopes for, but really she's a healing turret with a grenade. Monk is a neat idea but I don't like the way they executed it. Rexxar and Artanis both feel like they were trying to do something different with warriors but ended up just making another specialist and another Chen.

For now, I'm rolling with this just being a matter of me being spoiled by some great characters back to back for a bit there.

 

[kirblar]

Tanks aren't supposed to be high priority on the kill list.

Rexxar can be annoying as hell though, and if you can find Rexxar himself, he's easy to kill.

 

[Maledict]

Which of these characters are being played in Hero League right now? I'm not making a point, I'm asking. Certainly I'm mostly a Quick Match peon, and I wouldn't expect the QM playerbase to necessarily be representing characters at their best.

Bottom line is that I find Rexxar and Artanis to be priority #4 or 5 on the kill list in every game in QM right now. Artanis? You won't know he's there until 10, and you won't have to pay attention until 20. Rexxar? What does he do again beside have a bear and get killed after everyone else? Monk doesn't seem that good at healing if he's not hitting you, and Morales is so position dependent you can fuck her up just walking at her or between her and her target. Both of them are just sort of there until they use their admittedly good ults.

Like I said, maybe they're all great fun to play mechanically, I wouldn't know as of right now for anyone but Morales. I like to think the rare outliers - the people playing these characters that you can tell are good by the first or second engagement - are the norm in HL because they at least make you have to think about their characters.

Monk is one of the best healers in the game right now, and an absolute threat. If he isn't locked down and killed fast, he can keep a team going through almost anything. There's a reason the common high level monk build is taking Relentless at 13, because shutting him down is so absolutely necessery to winning.