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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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Venus Van Dam

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Guys, sorry for combo-breaking the WCS discussion, but I have a doubt: At Dragon Shire, I was the dragon, and my team was 2 heroes down, while the opposite team had the whole 5 near me. A teammate told me to ignore the opponents and hit the structures, but I thought that the risk of dying would be too much for some marginal damage I'd do on structures, so I spent my dragon time evading from the heroes. What should I've done?
 
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Maledict

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Depends upon how late in the game it was. If its a late game dragon knight it only takes a few hits to destroy a structure, so its worth just going all in and AAing for the win. But note the duration of the knight is actually quite long, so there's no point wasting it if your team are on their way or will rezz in time to help out.

It really depends on the state of the game.
 
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Familienoberhauptvogel

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In that case I like hitting structures a couple times if possible while running to the next lane threatening structures so that they'll have to keep chasing me, I'll be able to do some damage and they won't deal too much damage to me till we're 5 again and we can pick a fight. The timer on DK is like 90 seconds that's plenty of time.

Works worse with forts and keeps since they slow you down
 
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brian!

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Venus Van Dam said:
Guys, sorry for combo-breaking the WCS discussion, but I have a doubt: At Dragon Shire, I was the dragon, and my team was 2 heroes down, while the opposite team had the whole 5 near me. A teammate told me to ignore the opponents and hit the structures, but I thought that the risk of dying would be too much for some marginal damage I'd do on structures, so I spent my dragon time evading from the heroes. What should I've done?
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It depends but it's highly likely that it was bad advice.

Like it's a quick everyone do mercs and turn gold in immediately in booty bay style of advice
 
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Venus Van Dam

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Yeah I forgot to give more context. Levels were even at 6 or 7 and only a support and a squishy were alive. Also, the rest of the team certainly would come back after the dragon's time or hp expire. Our diablo keep telling me to go fort and I was like wtf man I'm afraid of dying. Changing lanes, even as a bluf, might be the best call. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Alur

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That early you can easily get a wall or two even if you're by yourself as odds are the enemy will not stack 5 against you...if they do you just change lanes and they chase while the very short death timers bring your team back. Rinse repeat.

At that level you aren't getting much more than a wall period, though, so the more important thing is making sure all lanes are still being soaked. You don't even really need to go out of your way to get the DK that early. It helps, sure, but it's not very strong til later in the game.
 
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Ketch

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You can try to judge what you should do based on dk life vs time remaining on the DK.

For example you never want to be at like 40% hp with 80% of your time remaining. You can poke fire breath on minion waves and walls to try and get xp, or maybe go for a kill if you're feeling super cocky, or if your in a spot where you know one hit will kill a fort or something it might be worth dying for.

But if you're going in 1v5 with the dk and it's just melting then you're literally not doing anything except feeding xp to the enemy team.

Edit: hero league is about 1000x better then QM. sometimes I forget.
 
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Syf

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Man why couldn't they have split yesterday into two days. I want more HotS dang it, some really fun games yesterday
 
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patchday

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Venus Van Dam said:
Yeah I forgot to give more context. Levels were even at 6 or 7 and only a support and a squishy were alive. Also, the rest of the team certainly would come back after the dragon's time or hp expire. Our diablo keep telling me to go fort and I was like wtf man I'm afraid of dying. Changing lanes, even as a bluf, might be the best call. Thanks for the feedback.
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At least you didnt do what I did. I was the "Terror" on that garden map. I accidently hit R (cancel) instead of E (speedup) and cancelled terror form right in the home base. didnt get a chance to do nothing lol

Think we still won that game tho inspite of my blunder.

Duress said:
Maybe I haven't played Malfurion in a while, but I'm finding him a bit more useless than other healers.
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Yeah isnt he low on hotslog for win rate and all that?
 
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Maledict

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Malfurion wins off his roots. If you can land them and your team can abuse them he's great, but otherwise you're better off with another healer.

Also, for some reason Malfurion players are far more foolhardy than other healers in my experience. They often wander near the front lines of fights and Malf is incredibly easy to take down. Stay far back, and seriously consider ice block at 13!
 
Yoshichan

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
First time Kael is on sale, I think!


Weekly sale November 4 - 10

Kael’thas - 4.99 €
StormPunk Kael'thas - 3.19€
Cyberwolf - 4.99 €
 
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bakerbakes

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Man I'm pretty excited to come back to this game. Between the summer time and release of mgsv I've all but totally fallen off the heroes wagon.
 
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brian!

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Played a kerrigan game last night after seeing how great she is in the tourney, for some reason i dont absolutely suck w/ her anymore, download complete bois
 
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Syf

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pls another hero from both the Starcraft and Diablo universes. D3 wizard and maybe Mengsk? Think he's been datamined/rumored for a while. And... idk who would be next for Warcraft. Oh and finally having a Starcraft map would be nice.
 
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questionmark

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Syfadious said:
pls another hero from both the Starcraft and Diablo universes. D3 wizard and maybe Mengsk? Think he's been datamined/rumored for a while. And... idk who would be next for Warcraft. Oh and finally having a Starcraft map would be nice.
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I believe that general from SC2 (can't remember his name) has also been datamined a while ago. In Overwatch there's an easter egg with an arcade fighting game called Fighters of the Storm, featuring Garrosh among other heroes already in HOTS, so wouldn't surprise me if Garrosh might be announced at Blizzcon. Other Warcraft heroes that have been shown/datamined are Cho'Gall, Kel'Thuzad, Zul'jin, Zamuro, and Mekkatorque.
 
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Fine Ham Abounds

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brian! said:
I just copied what they were doing

Q
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maelstrom
shield
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Yeah I figured that would be the tournament build. In QM I'm usually stuck with teams who can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag so I'm stuck playing her like a specialist for more than half the game

I'm finally feeling more consistent again after that month I basically only played Witcher 3. Fucking sad how long it takes me to get back into things as I get older. Gonna try some HL again finally this weekend.
 
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brian!

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I still hold onto the ult for too long, but i was pretty happy that i could qwe pretty consistently whereas before it was nonstop benny hill theme. And man the q reset is really really forgiving
 
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Maledict

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questionmark said:
I believe that general from SC2 (can't remember his name) has also been datamined a while ago. In Overwatch there's an easter egg with an arcade fighting game called Fighters of the Storm, featuring Garrosh among other heroes already in HOTS, so wouldn't surprise me if Garrosh might be announced at Blizzcon. Other Warcraft heroes that have been shown/datamined are Cho'Gall, Kel'Thuzad, Zul'jin, Zamuro, and Mekkatorque.
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The general was repurposed into Hammer.

Mensk has a variety of abilities in the data files, but we haven't seen or heard anything about him at all so would be a surprise if he appeared. We definitely don't want 4 warcraft heroes in a row though!
 
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Fine Ham Abounds

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Soka said:
I'd be super hyped for a Peon specialist hero that builds temporary defensive structures.

"Work, work."
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Ult #1 Work, Work - instantly restores a fort with half health or heals the core 50%

Ult #2 Me Not That Kind of Orc - grabs an opponent and puts them into stasis for 4 seconds with a mug of mead, then wakes them up by hitting them over the head with a club for damage
 
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Alavard

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I think I'll be happy with whoever they reveal as long as we get a couple more ranged assassins (another ranged high damage-dealing specialist would be almost as acceptable). Should be relatively likely since it sounds like they're unveiling 4 characters and have put out so many warriors lately.
 
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Maledict

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I thin the game needs more mage characters in general - two just isn't enough. Would also agree with more ranged dps in general. It's been a summer of warriors and bruisers in general.
 
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Maledict

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Soka said:
Cho'gall should be a melee mage character. Will be fun and semi-interesting I think.
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Would be interesting - Kerrigan is already a melee mage in effect, but it's not a crowded spot really.

I think right now we need less melee and more ranged. I wanna blow stuff up!
 
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Alur

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That sounds pretty awesome. The base abilities each have a different use depending on the head that is active. Dunno what kinda CD it'd have. Knowing Blizz I don't they'd let you freely shift to mix and match, but I could be wrong.
 
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Nirolak

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protonium said:
Two new maps and 4 new heroes to be announced at Blizzcon Rumour courtesy of Reddit/Facebook.

I got axe for you. What'cha wan me kill? Blizz, pls!
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That's about what I would have guessed going in (along with the reveal of various other systems), so at minimum it sounds believable.

They implied an Overwatch character, a classic Blizzard character, and (I can't tell if this is one of the previous two) a character with a very unique control scheme so far.
 
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