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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK

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What if it's the Rock and roll racing car?


Controls like a car!?

Gymkana

Make it a specialist that drives over and stuns minions and mercs

Ults could be carpooling like Dropship or something that makes it speed down a lane and stun heroes and instakill minions, only stopping at gates or forts. Totally reset a lane for your side if it gets pushed in, basically

I'll shut up now
 
Zug zug.

I still want my Annoy-o-tron. /s

Ult #1 Work, Work - instantly restores a fort with half health or heals the core 50%

Ult #2 Me Not That Kind of Orc - grabs an opponent and puts them into stasis for 4 seconds with a mug of mead, then wakes them up by hitting them over the head with a club for damage

If no Maiev, I at least just want another weird ass hero that functions differently from the rest.

Yup, that's why we need a Peon hero. An SCV or Probe would be OK too, but really, the Peon is the best of all the worker units from WC/SC.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
So I got match made with Nazeebo, Jaina, Morales, Tassadar, and Abathur, and it put us on Dragonshire.

It might as well have just assigned us a loss and let us move on to the next game.
 

Pooya

Member
What tier is Lt. Morales? I can't find her on C9s list...I feel she's pretty bad, mana goes away fast, most boring attack effects, pretty much no damage. Overall Residentsleeper. The only hero so far I regret getting, I just wanted to do the quests quickly after months of hiatus and I had a SC hero and support hero ones and I said might as well go with Morales. I still have like 30k gold, no big deal.

She could have been more enjoyable if they didn't give her that pew pew goo gun thing...she's probably alright in a coordinated team.

Overall her sound and visual effects are nothing like Broodwar's medic, even medic in SC2 is way better than this generic character they made up here.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Well, I guess it was just a matter of time

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patchday

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Anyone knows how to order the Hero to go into standby? All the time I'm hiding in a bush as assassin and they break cloak and start autoattacking
 
That's about what I would have guessed going in (along with the reveal of various other systems), so at minimum it sounds believable.

They implied an Overwatch character, a classic Blizzard character, and (I can't tell if this is one of the previous two) a character with a very unique control scheme so far.

Pick any 4 of: Mengsk, Tracer, ChoGall, Zuljin, Gelbin, Kelthuzad, Guldan and Garrosh and you'd probably be right lol
 
QM has been an absolute nightmare this morning. I had my first game today where my team didn't get a single kill. My teammates have been feeding nonstop. Just insanely bad play.

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Milly79

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What tier is Lt. Morales? I can't find her on C9s list...I feel she's pretty bad, mana goes away fast, most boring attack effects, pretty much no damage. Overall Residentsleeper. The only hero so far I regret getting, I just wanted to do the quests quickly after months of hiatus and I had a SC hero and support hero ones and I said might as well go with Morales. I still have like 30k gold, no big deal.

She could have been more enjoyable if they didn't give her that pew pew goo gun thing...she's probably alright in a coordinated team.

Overall her sound and visual effects are nothing like Broodwar's medic, even medic in SC2 is way better than this generic character they made up here.

iDream's? List hasn't been updated since September.
 

Ketch

Member
She kind of reminds me of pre nerd it except for healing instead of damage.

Edit: wow auto correct.

She reminds me of prenerf KT except for healing instead of damage
 

I'm an expert

Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I know there's a list in op but I'd rather know people deliberately add me from here. Add hashtagrekt#1767 for non-pug leetness.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Were you a tank? That sounds like a decent comp to me.
No that was the entire team, I was the Nazeebo.

Holding shrines was incredibly difficult. A team fight match may have been reasonable, but they had incredible pushing power to boot so basically any lane I wasn't in was going to be fucked and their high burst damage could just eat through the other characters to boot.

If we had a tank instead of Abathur it'd be vastly more reasonable since there would have been someone for Morales to heal and we would have to hold a shrine lane with one body.
 

patchday

Member
Speaking of Abathur, it's interesting looking at Hotslogs. He's at the bottom for Bronze Hero League for win rate. But for high level play he begins to soar.
 

brian!

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No that was the entire team, I was the Nazeebo.

Holding shrines was incredibly difficult. A team fight match may have been reasonable, but they had incredible pushing power to boot so basically any lane I wasn't in was going to be fucked and their high burst damage could just eat through the other characters to boot.

If we had a tank instead of Abathur it'd be vastly more reasonable since there would have been someone for Morales to heal and we would have to hold a shrine lane with one body.

it really is a horrible comp: hard to do damage that sticks, nothing really worth supporting since all damage is cd based, all squishies on a map w/ one of the most treacherous bush placements, like it's pretty much a comp where the other team looks at it and is like huh I guess we can do whatever we want this game as long as we dont get womboed by naz ult and dbl jaina
 

Zafir

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Speaking of Abathur, it's interesting looking at Hotslogs. He's at the bottom for Bronze Hero League for win rate. But for high level play he begins to soar.

There was also some statistics that his winrate was pretty low in normal Hero League, but it was pretty good in Team League.

Which makes a whole lot of sense when you consider how good he can be in certain comps, but at the same time can be pretty awful in others.
 
Lol man, Q build Kerrigan is hilarious on Infernal Shrines. You can just sit around chain killing guardians at the shrine for free in like 10 seconds.

Speaking of Abathur, it's interesting looking at Hotslogs. He's at the bottom for Bronze Hero League for win rate. But for high level play he begins to soar.

Doesn't surprise me at all. The funny thing is you can't just play QM and actually know what you're doing with Abathur. I know, because I was that guy for probably 6 months who sat next to a fort with a support build and because I was top exp by the end of the game I thought I was doing my job even if we lost. The only way to realize how much more you could be doing for your team is when you realize you should have at least 2x the exp of everyone else by the end of the game. The probability of your team losing when they are 2 levels ahead all game is drastically lower.

That said, the support build is ridiculous with the right comp. I got matched last night against Abathur, Illidan, Nova, Kharazim, and LiLi. Thanks to QM matchmaking, our team had one dps, and one reliable CC. I don't think I've ever lost that badly in QM, it was impossible to do enough damage to any one person in the time we could lock down one of the healers or Illidan. I checked after the rout, and only two of them were grouped, so it wasn't like we were going up against amazing coordination or anything. There are some comps QM is allowing right now that require the other team to fall asleep midgame in order for you to win.
 
QM has been an absolute nightmare this morning. I had my first game today where my team didn't get a single kill. My teammates have been feeding nonstop. Just insanely bad play.

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Still not as bad as some Korean accounts grinding exp with bots, those don't even attack, they just keep moving forward to their deaths.
 

Ketch

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what if they gave gazlowe uther's hammer of justice stun?

would he be good then?

if TNT just exploded and stunned as soon as it hit the ground maybe
 
Abathur is great, but like many heroes, he takes a while to really come online, and until he does, you're going to be at a big disadvantage while laning and fighting. Your team needs to internalize that they'll be fighting 4v5 essentially, but a lot of people still play and lane as if it's 5v5 which leads to over-extensions and non-defensive play (getting picked off is so much worse). That leads to giving up lots of unnecessary kills which wipes out the incremental exp lead Abathur builds, which kind of negates the whole point of Abathur. I love playing him and Murky though because of how impactful they can be mid-late game.

So in lower level games where misplays/bad strategic decisions are more common, he's often a liability. It's just easier to win if you had been playing someone else. But as the skill level rises, I think he really starts to shine.
 

Ronabo

Member
Wow the special people are out in full force tonight.

Constant siege Malf /check

Uther that lanes and never heals but himself /check

Abby that never leaves the nexus and only puts hat on on guy.
 

Mengy

wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Abathur is great, but like many heroes, he takes a while to really come online, and until he does, you're going to be at a big disadvantage while laning and fighting. Your team needs to internalize that they'll be fighting 4v5 essentially, but a lot of people still play and lane as if it's 5v5 which leads to over-extensions and non-defensive play (getting picked off is so much worse). That leads to giving up lots of unnecessary kills which wipes out the incremental exp lead Abathur builds, which kind of negates the whole point of Abathur. I love playing him and Murky though because of how impactful they can be mid-late game.

So in lower level games where misplays/bad strategic decisions are more common, he's often a liability. It's just easier to win if you had been playing someone else. But as the skill level rises, I think he really starts to shine.

Yep, I love Abathur but this is why I mainly play him in vs. AI games. He is just too team dependent to be viable in random QM's, more often than not playing Abathur is a hindrance to the team. In vs. AI games the nature of them (easy as balls) makes random team members not as punishing. Plus, to be honest, while I love playing Abathur I'm just an average Aba player, and in order to really succeed with him in random QM's you really need to be an exceptional Aba player to pull any success out of them.
 
I'm still at ~64% win rate as Abathur in solo queue Quick Match in about 85 games. I feel like that's pretty good. I haven't played him as much recently as I'm trying to improve with other heroes, but yeah, Abathur is still my dude.
 
Yesterday i was returning to Abby in QM, i had 3 great matches, and the last one i was thrash talked by some guys telling me to "use the skills" when i hat them.

Funny thing is some people think they are invulnerable with the abby hat, they dont even know the CD of carapace and dont pay attention when they are shielded so...

In my MMR range (2400-2500) quality of matches are so random sometimes it hurts.
HL exprerience is better however my MMR is lower.

But please guys don"t be so arrogant. When you first pick Nova in HL and tell everyone that you will melt faces because you are rank 1 and the ennemy takes a Tass and you finish the game with 14 deaths, dont be surprised that even with a loss i'm enjoying watching you die from so much salt in your blood.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Kel'thuzad revealed yet?

No?

Ok :(

Blizzcon HYPE!
 

Alur

Member
Milly79 is playing SWTOR. HOTS is def dead. #shutitdown #hashtag

Meanwhile, for those of us who actually play the game *cough*notMilky*cough*, I got my pumpkin head portrait today. A day after Halloween. It's kind of like getting Christmas decorations on sale after the holidays are over...but it counts I guess.
 

kirblar

Member
Milly79 is playing SWTOR. HOTS is def dead. #shutitdown #hashtag

Meanwhile, for those of us who actually play the game *cough*notMully*cough*, I got my pumpkin head portrait today. A day after Halloween. It's kind of like getting Christmas decorations on sale after the holidays are over...but it counts I guess.
They learned their lesson from the last one and are giving people enough time to finish it, thankfully.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
When is it over? I only have like 9 wins so far.... it's just a shitty portrait for a ded game anyway.
When is the last day for the portrait?
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
that is literally what i just asked
Oh I thought it was like a "omg I've grinded for so long, when is it over?!"-thing :/
 

Alur

Member
I did it with Milly in like 12 straight bot games. The rest in QM.

Now I have two more accounts to go and they are at like 5 a piece. FeelsBadMan.
 
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