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Heroes of the Storm |OT| Pretty sure that Abathur is AFK
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Kerrigan is at least two tiers better than Thrall or Sonya.
Number one thing I drew from this post: McDonald's breakfast is everywhere.
As for the other thing...YAKW. You. Already. Know. Who.
It'll definitely make times you gotta solo more palatable. And if you group and your team understands how he works, can really do some fun things.
Also listen to this song while you play him. There is no better soundtrack.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
The picture :lol the song wasn't there when I made the post!The song or the picture?
Awwww... I know exactly what you mean. Peace and love <3I have recently been reminded just how horrible some communities can be. I just wanted to say I love you guys.
Ohana means family. Family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.
EscapingJail
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I have recently been reminded just how horrible some communities can be. I just wanted to say I love you guys.
I miss JiYoung
Looking forward to playing with Thrall during a free hero rotation. I keep noticing he's rock bottom on all the tier listings. Surely it is in Blizzard's best interest to tweak this hero a bit more to bring him up to speed? Anyway, I'll reserve my final judgement til I get to play with him. I was a Shaman class in World of Warcraft (Horde Faction) for the year or so I played during vanilla. Oh well, at least Rehgar seemed pretty fun last week.
Thrall is fine and completely underrated, imo.
When there is a break in team fighting, or when you can leave the lane for a minute without giving up too much exp (for example, when your minion wave is all the way to the towers and pushing with them would carry some risk).
Should be done in groups of two: Support/Tank + DPS/Specialist. Some heroes are really good at soloing camps like Illidan, Gazlowe, Sonya and Zegara, but most should be done as a group.
Only Bribe is worthwhile. Everything else to do with camps are traps.
This isnt true for sonya. On blackheart she should definitely talent for jungle. But that is one specific case.
She can solo boss quite easily if you talent her right. http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/guide/sonya-boss-soloing-rank-1-hero-league-kael-patch-4328
Sonya is actually part of the reason I was asking. When I realized I could easily clear siege and brute camps, I tried a boss and was fairly close to soloing it.
Ah sorry, misread that. There are some key timings for when objectives spawn so that you take a camp right beforehand.
What tier listings are you looking at? Most of them are only relevant to pro competition. So far Blizzard has demonstrated little interest in balancing around pro competition, and seems to be focused on balancing for pub play instead. (Thrall is essentially average in pub play.)
They are balancing certain things primarily around high-level play.
The issue is that they're not letting that override low-level play. Someone like Nova is a pubstomper, but even a nerfed Nova has uses in high level play due to her niche. Thrall is a pubstomper, but it's because of his self-heal and the lack of focus fire - not his niche. And in high-level play, there are just way, way better options than Thrall if you want a melee assassin. (Sonya, Illidan, Kerrigan, probably Butcher and Leoric)
This isn't wrong, btw - it's why Gazlowe won't get buffs, but it is sad from a competitive and/or spectator point of view.
Also, preview video is up: Not much getting added w/ this patch cycle, it appears: https://t.co/sWUZz8d7UK
The issue is that they're not letting that override low-level play. Someone like Nova is a pubstomper, but even a nerfed Nova has uses in high level play due to her niche. Thrall is a pubstomper, but it's because of his self-heal and the lack of focus fire - not his niche. And in high-level play, there are just way, way better options than Thrall if you want a melee assassin. (Sonya, Illidan, Kerrigan, probably Butcher and Leoric)
This isn't wrong, btw - it's why Gazlowe won't get buffs, but it is sad from a competitive and/or spectator point of view.
Also, preview video is up: Not much getting added w/ this patch cycle, it appears: https://t.co/sWUZz8d7UK
xDUMPWEEDx
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Thrall is a QM god. He won't be buffed or needed.
new "in development" vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaDaZj3PE4
the new skins look really well made, although The Butcher's skin varitations seem really miniscule
also sigh at "novazon"
also i got beaten by kirblar)))))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUaDaZj3PE4
the new skins look really well made, although The Butcher's skin varitations seem really miniscule
also sigh at "novazon"
also i got beaten by kirblar
)))))I'm glad this topic came up, because I was going to post on it myself.
Here's the advice I would give:
* Mercs are objectives. If there's a teamfight threatening to happen, or the enemy is anywhere near you, don't take them.
* The boss is a big objective, so if the enemy team has five players on the map, you should really just never do boss. Even apart from getting jumped, it's going to take a ton of time that the enemy can use to push buildings and clear other camps.
* A good time to take mercs is when you have a temporary manpower advantage because you just won a teamfight. Contrariwise, a really stupid time to take mercs is when you are down players.
* Just because your hero can solo merc camps doesn't mean you should. If you are soloing a camp it means the rest of your team is doing something else. Why aren't you doing that thing instead?
* Bruiser mercs, in my experience, slightly help push a lane but don't really win games. Siege mercs can easily clear buildings, but they're easy to kill.
* Early game, mercs are not more valuable than soaking an empty lane. Late game, mercs are not more valuable than map objectives.
InvaderZimmer
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Charger looks cool but it would be nice to just have Tyreal be able to fly.
You see this in all sorts of genres- it's just more obvious in this one. Sentinel in MvC3 got an HP nerf shortly after release (claimed to be "in the works before the game started") because he would blow up low level players. Dhalsim/Honda/Guile in SF4 were nerfed from their SSF4 incarnations for similar reasons- players would get frustrated trying to play against the turtle or keep-away characters.
Star Falcon
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EU apparently fucked, loads of accounts with resets to everything apparently (likely will get restored, but a pain in the arse)! A night off will do me good, anyway
The Lamonster
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Tyreal's Charger looks so fucking good.
Still pissed I missed that mount in WoW and now it's gone forever.
Still pissed I missed that mount in WoW and now it's gone forever.
Vyrkul Skeleton King...oh baby.
Tyrael's Charger and even the battle beast are fine by me...though I will say Tyrael's Charger looks like a cross between a large version of Billie the Kid and the Armored War Steed.
Milly79 had a good point though. Where's Bikini Stitches and the Nightmare Mount?
Tyrael's Charger and even the battle beast are fine by me...though I will say Tyrael's Charger looks like a cross between a large version of Billie the Kid and the Armored War Steed.
Milly79 had a good point though. Where's Bikini Stitches and the Nightmare Mount?
Had "Chen is the best tank!" spouted off of an ignoramus last night who then proceeded to not show up to a single fight all game.
edit: HS mount is live (immediately after the carpet sale, of course)-
sproutella
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Had a chen bragging about going 14-10 in a 15 minute loss. I was 19-1 as Furion. I get Blizz's logic behind making takedowns work the way they do, but if players think they are doing ok with 10 deaths then idk if that's a good thing.
The Lamonster
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ooo thanks for the heads-up!edit: HS mount is live (immediately after the carpet sale, of course)-
I'm starting to see what I think is the issue in the current EXP system- kills pre-10 are simply giving way too much EXP. IF you have 4 people die, starting at level 4-5, your opponents are getting about a full level lead on you since they altered the system. And that can lead to a serious issue when one team has ults and the other doesn't for a very long period of time, allowing things to snowball really badly.
This is why we're seeing these comps on maps like Tomb going so heavy on early kills with Zeratul/Kerrigan- if you get an early lead it's now much easier to sit on it than it previously was.
This is why we're seeing these comps on maps like Tomb going so heavy on early kills with Zeratul/Kerrigan- if you get an early lead it's now much easier to sit on it than it previously was.
Awww yisss, HS cardback mount.
Get on my feet you saucy bastard.
EDIT: It's not here
orangecoke
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After being addicted to LoL ARAM for a couple of years, that addiction has been broken (for now?) but HoTS quite handily. And I've already given Blizzard probably 150-200 dollars lol.
Really fun game - it can be frustrating in QM when people don't play the objective, but overall I really like the pace, the graphics (SO much detail to see) and the flavor of it.
So far I've mained Zeratul up to level 10 and got his master skin. I like his mix of stealth, mobility and burst.
My one complaint in terms of balance (ok...other than Nova...) is healing seems *really* strong in this game. I find if a team is sticking together and has two healers, it's super hard to burst anyone down or kill them. Even one healer can really make a tank unstoppable imo.
Really fun game - it can be frustrating in QM when people don't play the objective, but overall I really like the pace, the graphics (SO much detail to see) and the flavor of it.
So far I've mained Zeratul up to level 10 and got his master skin. I like his mix of stealth, mobility and burst.
My one complaint in terms of balance (ok...other than Nova...) is healing seems *really* strong in this game. I find if a team is sticking together and has two healers, it's super hard to burst anyone down or kill them. Even one healer can really make a tank unstoppable imo.
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