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[L.B. Jeffries]

Damn, both Promote and Bound Minion got nerfed. Wailing arrow got nerfed. Infest got nerfed. All the Specialists who were working the siege meta are going to have to setup for different builds.

 

[RumblingRosco]

So, Azmodan's death laser is a stationary chanelled spell unless he specs into the talent that lets him move while channeling. Will it thus not be stopped by Daze if he picks up the movement talent? Stealth buff to Azmodan's = I am psyched.

 

[The Cowboy]

Was expecting Murky's living the dream change to be 5% base instead of 10% base and then increases by 1 every 5 seconds to a maximum of 20% extra instead of the original 15% - so it would still get to 25% but it would take longer to get to, but alas its been reduced to a max of 20%..

 

[Alur]

Valla (already top tier, now she's got more viable damage?), Sonya, Lili, Chen, Tychus, Nazeebo... Is Pyroblast harder to interrupt now?

Valla hasn't been top tier damage for a little bit pick wise. They were just talking on THH about how she's fell behind even Zag and Falstad now, and def behind the mages. She'll be able to go back to pub stomping now though.

It's a plus for Sonya and Lili, shouldn't affect Naz or Chen since they are stationary (at least I wouldn't think) and its up in the air whether it's a buff or nerf to Tychus to me. I don't think it really hurts anyone badly so much as it helps two heroes who badly needed it.

Only 4 BGs until July 7th aside from custom games? Realllllyyyyy?

No mines doe. No mines!

EDIT: Also...damn. 750 for each hero I already had at nine or higher? That's gonna be at least 12,750 (17) for me I think. Davemo and Yoshi also gonna be rich.

 

[jaundicejuice]

Currently in a match with a Zegara player who said, and I quote "I don't get this guys egg things" in reference to creep tumors.

There are so many things wrong wiht that statement, the most obvious being Starcraft is clearly fucked.

 

[HTVfanatic]

Currently in a match with a Zegara player who said, and I quote "I don't get this guys egg things" in reference to creep tumors.

There are so many things wrong wiht that statement, the most obvious being Starcraft is clearly fucked.

To be honest, I thought the same thing the first time I played her. Never played Starcraft before, so I guess that's why.

 

[Nirolak]

Currently in a match with a Zegara player who said, and I quote "I don't get this guys egg things" in reference to creep tumors.

There are so many things wrong wiht that statement, the most obvious being Starcraft is clearly fucked.

Well, despite never ending a plotline in one of their games before, they're ending the storyline of StarCraft, so I'm assuming they know they're not planning to make another game with a campaign anytime soon.

The few job postings they have for StarCraft are approximately half misplaced Heroes of the Storm jobs as well.

I probably wouldn't hold my breath for another traditional StarCraft title.

 

[FinKL]

BIG buffs to gold gain. Hero level 9 gets you 750g. (L15 is now 1000g, L20 is now 2000g) That + the Treasure Goblin +100g per day is a big rate increase for a lot of players..
Repost from last page: Only Sky Temple, Tomb, Battlefield, and Cursed Hollow will be on rotation the first week of the patch.

edit 2: Illidan just lost unstoppable on his Q and his Unbound talented W. Ruh-Roh Raggy. Barrel Roll, Flying Kick, and Ravage all affected as well.

!!!!!!!Came out of nowhere!!!!!!!

 

[Pooya]

Unstoppable changes a stealth nerf to Illidian?

This list looks ridiculous. So many effective counters to channeling abilities removed. Who benefits from this? Valla (already top tier, now she's got more viable damage?), Sonya, Lili, Chen, Tychus, Nazeebo... Is Pyroblast harder to interrupt now?

oh my this will be interesting... good for my hero preference! lol

 

[jaundicejuice]

Well, despite never ending a plotline in one of their games before, they're ending the storyline of StarCraft, so I'm assuming they know they're not planning to make another game with a campaign anytime soon.

The few job postings they have for StarCraft are approximately half misplaced Heroes of the Storm jobs as well.

I probably wouldn't hold my breath for another traditional StarCraft title.

I know Blizzard have clearly stated their intentions about ending the current iteration of Starcarft with Legacy of the Void but it speaks volumes about how far the series has fallen. This person was playing a zerg and didn't know what creep was.

 

[super-famicom]

Man, so many changes to Brightwing. It will be fun figuring out a new build with her.

 

[Valus]

Damn, both Promote and Bound Minion got nerfed. Wailing arrow got nerfed. Infest got nerfed. All the Specialists who were working the siege meta are going to have to setup for different builds.

Eh Infested only got nerfed in relation to wrecking heroes. Zagara's siege meta hasn't changed.

 

[davepoobond]

I know Blizzard have clearly stated their intentions about ending the current iteration of Starcarft with Legacy of the Void but it speaks volumes about how far the series has fallen. This person was playing a zerg and didn't know what creep was.

I don't know why it is surprising to ya'll, their franchises have broad appeal across player bases but for many years I was a Starcraft-only player and didnt play diablo until 3 or Warcraft until WoW 5 years ago. I wouldn't have been able to tell you anything in those games before I played them.

Not everyone plays all of their games.


As far as Starcraft goes, Heroes essentially seems like the "end of the universe(s)" or "end of time" for all of their franchises, so they could potentially include stories or a campaign or something. They talked about including map creators as well, so who knows what direction the game is going to be going in a couple years.

 

[Pooya]

I know Blizzard have clearly stated their intentions about ending the current iteration of Starcarft with Legacy of the Void but it speaks volumes about how far the series has fallen. This person was playing a zerg and didn't know what creep was.

what's shocking about that? People come to this game from WoW or Diablo, or Hearthstone or entirely new. Not everyone has played Starcraft but if you want to play this game you will end up playing all the characters.

 

[jaundicejuice]

It's Starcraft, it's THE game that comes to mind when you think RTS, just like League probably is for a lot of people when you think MOBA. Call of Duty when you think FPS. Or World of Warcaft when you think MMO.

That said, not being familiar with Starcraft would have been entirely forgivable IF that player wasn't a complete and utter lazy shit who couldn't be arsed to practice with the hero before diving into a live match or even bother to hover their mouse over their skills and read the fucking tooltips. They had played enough HotS to not be talent gated but didn't even know what the Nydus Worm did.

Here was the epic use of the Nydus:

Oh we're teamfighting? Better drop my Nydus right in the middle of it.

 

[Sothis Krieg]

Last 2 days has been shit for me in terms of teammate in HL, people who whine after 1 teamfight lost. AFKers. People that insults each other, many many zeratul that engage and die instantly then whine. This resulted in many lost games, very frustrating one.

 

[Alur]

I've played all the Diablo games, Warcraft 3 (retroactively), WoW for years, and Hearthstone since early beta along with Heroes since alpha.

I've never touched a Starcraft game until I got invited to the Legacy of the Void beta. Just never piqued my fancy I guess. I'd say folks often completely miss a franchise or two.

 

[davepoobond]

It's Starcraft, it's THE game that comes to mind when you think RTS, just like League probably is for a lot of people when you think MOBA. Call of Duty when you think FPS. Or World of Warcaft when you think MMO.

That said, not being familiar with Starcraft would have been entirely forgivable IF that player wasn't a complete and utter lazy shit who couldn't be arsed to practice with the hero before diving into a live match or even bother to hover their mouse over their skills and read the fucking tooltips. They had played enough HotS to not be talent gated but didn't even know what the Nydus Worm did.

Here was the epic use of the Nydus:

RTS hasn't been popular for about 10 years now man.

It was already dead as a genre by the time Halo Wars came out and that was like 2007 or something.

I think your same amount of outrage can be flipped to how out of touch your complaints are

 

[jaundicejuice]

RTS hasn't been popular for about 10 years now man.

It was already dead as a genre by the time Halo Wars came out and that was like 2007 or something.

I think your same amount of outrage can be flipped to how out of touch your complaints are

You're completely skipping my entirely valid complaints about the player not practicing or even reading in-game before playing to focus on the bits about Starcraft, which, in the initial post, was just a joke about how fucked the series is in general.

Here, let's omit the spurious bits and get to the meat of it...

That...would have been entirely forgivable IF that player wasn't a complete and utter lazy shit who couldn't be arsed to practice with the hero before diving into a live match or even bother to hover their mouse over their skills and read the fucking tooltips. They had played enough HotS to not be talent gated but didn't even know what the Nydus Worm did.

 

[Orochinagis]

It's Starcraft, it's THE game that comes to mind when you think RTS, just like League probably is for a lot of people when you think MOBA. Call of Duty when you think FPS. Or World of Warcaft when you think MMO.

That said, not being familiar with Starcraft would have been entirely forgivable IF that player wasn't a complete and utter lazy shit who couldn't be arsed to practice with the hero before diving into a live match or even bother to hover their mouse over their skills and read the fucking tooltips. They had played enough HotS to not be talent gated but didn't even know what the Nydus Worm did.

Here was the epic use of the Nydus:


Oh we're teamfighting? Better drop my Nydus right in the middle of it.

Well it produces extra creep so you can run away I guess

PTR Patch notes ahoy !

Buffs, nerfs, QoL changes, tears ! Oh my.

I was expecting some changes in Tyrande and Abathur but.....nah

 

[Yoshichan]

Blizzard is a retarded company for not touching Kael'thas this patch. The most broken hero in the game? Oh, no let's leave him as he is right now and instead nerf Tribute! Because THAT is OP, for sure.

 

[kirblar]

Blizzard is a retarded company for not touching Kael'thas this patch. The most broken hero in the game? Oh, no let's leave him as he is right now and instead nerf Tribute! Because THAT is OP, for sure.

They already nerfed him- his current incarnation is fine - just pick Zeratul.

 

[Alur]

Yeah Kael'thas is in a pretty good spot. His risk vs reward is perfect IMO and he has plenty of counters.

 

[pigeon]

daze change is really dumb it makes things more confusing on what works and what doesnt.

I mean, I don't think it's that confusing. If you can move while channeling an ability, then getting forcibly moved won't interrupt it. If you can't move while channeling it, then getting forcibly moved will interrupt it.

I'm not sure it's a GOOD change -- it will just make Anub and Muradin even more important picks, since so many fewer characters have actual interrupts -- but I'm not sure it's unclear.

 

[jaundicejuice]

They already nerfed him- his current incarnation is fine - just pick Zeratul.

Or burst Nova. Or Anub. Or Stitches. Or Muradin. Or Falstad. Or Johanna.

Basically any hero that can negate what Kael'thas needs, to sit in safety on the edge of a fight. Zeratul and Nova are the best at this because nowhere is safe and they can burst him down quickly. A bunch of tanks can close the gap and stun or displace Kael and put him in a dangerous spot. I've had a lot of fun with Nova as Falstad ganking a Kael. With flight and dashing through terrain combined with a Nova scout you can gank pretty quickly and effectively.

 

[Yoshichan]

Oh I don't have an issue with him, I'm Zeratul. I'm pissed off at my team mates for stacking up against him constantly. Kael'thas can single-handedly win games. That can't be said about any other hero in the game.

 

[kirblar]

Or Stitches.

You monster.

Cost is showing up again on the shop before you click through in the PTR build, for those who wanted it reverted.

 

[Impeccable]

Getting ETC to even level 5 is a test of even my patience.

Not because he's a bad character just solo queue and people run away when I dive in to do my job. Like, argh. First frustration I've had with this game oddly enough.

 

[JC Sera]

Getting ETC to even level 5 is a test of even my patience.

Not because he's a bad character just solo queue and people run away when I dive in to do my job. Like, argh. First frustration I've had with this game oddly enough.

find a friend in the neogaf channel?

 

[Messiek]

Just had a crazy game with EZ and Gundy. Youtube material folks, haha

 

[Ketch]

Hero Level 9 -- A new 750 Gold reward has been added.
This Gold reward will also be retroactively granted to players for each Hero that reached level 9 prior to today’s patch.

I'm fuckin RICH!

Also all of the abilities that can no longer interrupt channeling is insane. Serious nerfs for a lot of heroes that really don't need nerfs right now: RIP Chen, RIP ETC, RIP Hammer, RIP Tychus, RIP Raynor.
EDIT: OK! I didn't not think through all of the implications of this. Yes it sucks for a lot of heroes... but for Chen and Tychus (AND SONYA!) it's maybe not so bad because there's now a bunch of things which will no longer interrupt their channeled abilities like drinking, chain gunning, and whirlwindying. So... we'll see I guess. SONYA BUFFS! BELIEVE YET ALUR?


Illidan loses all of his unstoppable frames on W AND Q? I thought it was already off his W, but RIP Illidan as well.

 

[dmosher]

The gold changes are nice, I just hit level 15 on Brightwing and got that 1250 gold, so double dipping I guess?

I just logged in to count, I have 29 heroes at 9 or higher... soooo another 21,750 gold

$$$

 

[kirblar]

Fix to an earlier Patch Note: Johanna's Condemn, Diablo's Shadow Charge, and Thrall's Sundering still stun at the end of their displacement effects. These abilities have been removed from the patch notes. Sorry for any confusion!

That makes sense.

 

[Milly79]

Just had a 1% core comeback. The throws and plays of the week.

Wombo at the gates:

http://gfycat.com/CooperativeKeyAfricanpiedkingfisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3AeUjpD7g

And the comeback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDgMzLFvuI

Full replay:

https://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=6274

 

[subwilde]

The gold changes are nice, I just hit level 15 on Brightwing and got that 1250 gold, so double dipping I guess?

I just logged in to count, I have 29 heroes at 9 or higher... soooo another 21,750 gold

$$$

Ah now I see why we had a tough time keeping up in those couple of games I found out I'm like 1000 points below haha

 

[Yoshichan]

Yay! So insanely fun, definitely a top tier character for me.

Fun-tier-list
Zagara > Kael'thas > Sylvanas > Jaina > Zeratul > Valla > Kerrigan > Falstad > Johanna > Tychus > Anub'arak > Illidan > Li Li > Raynor > Nova > Muradin

 

[super-famicom]

Just had a 1% core comeback. The throws and plays of the week.

Wombo at the gates:

http://gfycat.com/CooperativeKeyAfricanpiedkingfisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3AeUjpD7g

And the comeback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDgMzLFvuI

Full replay:

https://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=6274

WHAT A COMEBACK!

 

[Neoweee]

The bonus EXP makes me want to play far more than I should, knowing that Level 9 now gives 750g.

Yay! So insanely fun, definitely a top tier character for me.

Fun-tier-list
Zagara > Kael'thas > Sylvanas > Jaina > Zeratul > Valla > Kerrigan > Falstad > Johanna > Tychus > Anub'arak > Illidan > Li Li > Raynor > Nova > Muradin

How are you chewing through this Heroes so fast? Are you stacking Stimpacks with the 100% bonus this last week?

 

[Alex]

Lot of good changes in the patch but some of the global changes do some real harm to characters who really don't deserve any nerfs. Kerrigan and Chen come to mind.

 

[Messiek]

Just had a 1% core comeback. The throws and plays of the week.

Wombo at the gates:

http://gfycat.com/CooperativeKeyAfricanpiedkingfisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A3AeUjpD7g


And the comeback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrDgMzLFvuI

Full replay:

https://www.hotslogs.com/Replays/ShareReplay?ReplayShareID=6274

WHAT A COMEBACK!

That's the game I was talking about! Thx Milly and Gundy : )
The salt is real .

 

[Alur]

How are you chewing through this Heroes so fast? Are you stacking Stimpacks with the 100% bonus this last week?

Yep. EXP bonus + friend bonus + stimpack makes it super fast.

I'm kinda glad it's ending so I don't feel obligated to keep leveling heroes I'm not great at just to avoid wasting the boost. Now I can go back to what I'm good at.

 

[Yoshichan]

When are we all getting the gold btw? How do I know that I've got it?

I should be getting 16x750 = 12k gold... god damn.

Edit: started with Thrall. I knew this asshole was overpowered. I can't even understand how he was even stronger than this.

 

[Panthers]

These random nights when the lag spikes happen are getting annoying. Most nights I can play just fine, then on random nights the lag makes it unplayable. Its only HOTS and this seems pretty common. Hope they fix it soon.

Just stutters really bad.

 

[Yoshichan]

Ah, so the patch isn't live in EU I take it?

Edit: also, any Thrall guides out there? Would love to watch a good Youtube clip about him.

 

[Eric WK]

Ah, so the patch isn't live in EU I take it?

Edit: also, any Thrall guides out there? Would love to watch a good Youtube clip about him.

Patch is a week away, dude. It's on PTR now.

 

[danielcw]

Ah, so the patch isn't live in EU I take it?

The patch is meant for the 30th

 

[Yoshichan]

Gotcha! Hype!

 

[HTVfanatic]

Might be a dumb question, but how do I join the PTR?

 

[Milly79]

Might be a dumb question, but how do I join the PTR?

 

[jaundicejuice]

Might be a dumb question, but how do I join the PTR?

In your client it will say what region you're playing in, that's a drop down menu. PTR is available in that drop down.