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[Dahbomb]

When I play games I hate playing with supports that can't protect against burst damage, don't hard CC and have sort of strong protection utility like Cleanse. It's no shock to me that people spam Uther and Malfurion.

Like screw playing Morales, Lucio and Lili. Too passive for me in team fights and ganks.

 

[Prelude.]

Mewn played with Kripp yesterday. Starts at 4:42.

Also Kripp almost got to 3k MMR on hotslogs, it'll be nice to see where the real mmr places him when he starts playing on his own.

 

[Milly79]

I'd argue Lucio is an active support, just booty tier ATM.

 

[Rizzi]

If Tassadar could stop draining infinite amounts of health that would be nice.

 

[kirblar]

I'd argue Lucio is an active support, just booty tier ATM.

The problem is that they have his heal tick too fast, making it impossible for them to granularly adjust.

 

[Kioshen]

Will replays of these games be available?

You can download the replay files on masterleague.net too if you want.

 

[psyfi]

After 76 levels and 266 games, I finally have enough heroes at level 5 to play ranked. Even still, I feel like I only 60% understand the game.

 

[Fancolors]

tfw when both teams are at each other's core and you lose by a sliver of health

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

30 minute game on Cursed Hollow 3 of our people down just solod the core as Illidan with the help of some minions while they did boss.

Such a rough game with BW and Valeera on the other side.

 

[natethegreat409]

Thought the finals were this morning.... woke up all pumped to watch. Go me. Lol

 

[brian!]

Still feel like ppl are sleeping on sonya, so many oppurtunities to pick her during msb

 

[Ketch]

Still feel like ppl are sleeping on sonya, so many oppurtunities to pick her during msb

But stitches is first pick now

 

[brian!]

Oh yeah sonya is beast against stitches too

But yeah ban uther pick malf pick tyrael gg ppl piggybacking off msb stitches picks

Or is malf bad now i dunno

 

[Maledict]

For hero league he should be fine because the number of people who can cleanse properly is close to 0 anyway.

 

[brian!]

They changed other stuff too i think tho i dont recall beyond removing (or nerfing?) mana regen on td, but yeh im prtty ignorant about his changes.

Reddit seems prtty surly when ppl mention that they dont think malth is very strong

Also, played against a chogall last night. We had malthael and leoric but still got wrekked (prob too overkill on the % dmg), i had no idea you could talent the bomb to be a long ass aoe silence, that shit is strong

 

[natethegreat409]

Finally jumped into rank. Did 3 placememt matches. All 3 were pretty bad defeats, every match had one player amazed at how bad his team was and just trashed us entire game acting like he is an amazing player somehow placed into our group.

Think imma go back to quick match and it's crazy comp groups.

I got called a trash uther by one group. I outhealed enemy Malf 56k to 43k. I had 1 death and 56k damage absorbed. Meanwhile my team had deaths like up to 8. Feels just like healing in WoW. People standing in shit and diving and expecting me to keep them topped off and alive no matter what they get themselves into.

 

[Alavard]

Well, I learned something very useful last night - D.Va completely shuts Nova down. Luckily I was the D.Va player.

Nova just can't do any damage when D.Va is around due to her W, and D.Va's boosters are super useful for revealing her nearby if she's cloaked. This makes D.Va a perfect babysitter for your team's squishies. I had lots of moments where my allied Jaina went off solo to work on camps, and could have easily been picked off, but bringing D.Va along meant we were both untouchable.

For some strange reason the Nova even took Triple Tap, which D.Va's W trivially negates.

 

[Ketch]

Oh yeah sonya is beast against stitches too

But yeah ban uther pick malf pick tyrael gg ppl piggybacking off msb stitches picks

Or is malf bad now i dunno

New malf is fine. Not OP. Can't afford to skip the healing heroic anymore.

 

[brian!]

Oh damn it's like that?

 

[Ketch]

Oh damn it's like that?

Lvl 7 roots reduce enemy healing by 30%


Biggest problem is uther making him look bad (yet again)

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

2-0 in placements with Uther of all heroes.

He feels good. Had a full on dive comp on BHB and thought we were gonna have a disaster but the opponents were kind enough to force fights. Which they had no chance in.

 

[scoobs]

Uther is insanely strong, and fun to play on top of that. Very happy with his rework.

 

[brian!]

Yeah plus you can go q mininuke build for fun
Guardian def gonna get nerfed tho

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Oh Uther has 2 traits. I thought only the heals when dead gave armor.

Now taking the W quest at 1 makes way more sense.

 

[thekillermuffin]

what is the go to Uther build(s)? Thinking I should give him more playtime.

 

[brian!]

what is the go to Uther build(s)? Thinking I should give him more playtime.

1. W
4. Holy fire
7. Guardian/cleanse (guardian often straight up better, both useless with no cc)
10. Situation
13. Well met usually
16. Benediction
20. Redemption usually

There's an alternative fun build that revolves around getting q nuke at 4 and cdr from cc

 

[Fancolors]

Playing Lúcio, I'm convinced they should reduce the tick rate of his healing and up the numbers a bit in a way it gets higher than his current state but not better than what it used to be.

The drop from 3 to 2 is just too much

 

[kirblar]

Playing Lúcio, I'm convinced they should reduce the tick rate of his healing and up the numbers a bit in a way it gets higher than his current state but not better than what it used to be.

The drop from 3 to 2 is just too much

Halve the number of ticks, make the ticks go from 6->5.

 

[Alavard]

Changing the tick rate shouldn't be 100% necessary. Based on the numbers given in the status panel (when you hit C), health regen works fine with decimal values. No reason it couldn't functionally be 2.5, or 2.75 or whatever.

 

[brian!]

Just leave the passive weak and improve his activated heal

 

[scoobs]

Just leave the passive weak and improve his activated heal

bingo

 

[Orochinagis]

placed Silver 5, I guess I will stay silver forever

 

[Milly79]

Reduce the cd then

 

[Milly79]

Blizzard and twitch signed a 2 year deal. Maybe dorm will finally get some viewership again

 

[scoobs]

Blizzard and twitch signed a 2 year deal. Maybe dorm will finally get some viewership again

That's awesome, glad to hear it. Viewership will go up like 5000%

 

[Fancolors]

Welp, I was gonna get that OW box with free prime, but I guess I'll wait until they start bringing the hots loot

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/20/1...watch-starcraft-2-hearthstone-free-loot-boxes

Over the coming months – in August and October, specifically — Twitch Prime subscribers will get a total of 10 additional Overwatch loot boxes. Twitch and Blizzard have similar promotions in the works for Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone players later this year.

 

[Milly79]

LOL MEWN IS HAVING A KID?

 

[Alpha Centauri]

LOL MEWN IS HAVING A KID?

yeah, her name is gonna be Lili iirc. Misspaws is like 8 months at this point right?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

and I thought when Fan and Rentaro broke up was too personal already.

 

[Milly79]

Holy shit... even if he wasn't a salt mine already...

And rip his career.

 

[Kioshen]

LOL MEWN IS HAVING A KID?

It was known for a while. He was submerged in donations when he announced it.

 

[Milly79]

I haven't watched mewn in months and never saw anyone mention it in here.

 

[scoobs]

oh ya thats been public info for a few months now at least. That's one of the reasons I thought it was insane he was "quitting" HOTS. His entire income depends on this game and he has a baby on the way.

 

[Alur]

Maybe the kid will mellow him out.

 

[Celegus]

Welp, I was gonna get that OW box with free prime, but I guess I'll wait until they start bringing the hots loot

https://www.polygon.com/2017/6/20/1...watch-starcraft-2-hearthstone-free-loot-boxes

Gimme da loot! Could care less about the OW stuff (seriously does anyone that plays regularly not already have all the good stuff out of the standard boxes?) but Heroes om nom nom

 

[Rizzi]

Sometimes the community in this game is uh.. Pretty shitty.
We won Towers of Doom by 32 points, but apparently the Chromie didn't like the fact that I "let her die" twice, and proceeded to get their grouped up friend to spend the next ten minutes trash talking me, and sent a bunch of whispers after the game ended telling me how shitty I was.
Apparently it's my job to stop people from making shitty decisions I guess! Quick match is the most serious of match types.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Just block em.

QM has been pretty great for me ever since I accepted it for what it is.

 

[Rizzi]

Just block em.

QM has been pretty great for me ever since I accepted it for what it is.

Yeah, I did. Reported them too (like that'll do anything).
It takes a special kind of person to decide that no, this person has not heard enough of how terrible I think they are. I must track them down after the match to continue berating them.

 

[Karsticles]

Lots of complaints about QM pubs, but no one takes me up on the offer to play nightly with our current trio. :-/

 

[Rizzi]

Lots of complaints about QM pubs, but no one takes me up on the offer to play nightly with our current trio. :-/

I would, but I live in Australia and couldn't think of anything I would rather do less than play a moba with 250 ping.