Tyrande is in the pool of 'semi supports' along with Abathur, Zarya, Tassadar, and only a very few others, which makes it the smallest 'role' pool in the game. So you'll see her more often if you've got someone else from that pool on your team.
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Tyrande is in the pool of 'semi supports' along with Abathur, Zarya, Tassadar, and only a very few others, which makes it the smallest 'role' pool in the game. So you'll see her more often if you've got someone else from that pool on your team.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
soon
Well, since the last we've heard on the issue was when they classified Varian as a tank again in QM, and have been absolutely silent since, I'm really hoping it's one of the Blizzcon announcements.
account level does not equal skill level
King Gilga
Member
Dunno how anyone can play tyrande without lunar blaze.
That talent is what makes her fun. Stunning people for half their health.
Maybe, we did beat them pretty easily, it's just not a very motivating thing to see as soon as you start a game.
I find it very improbably that someone who has 500 levels on a person isn't significantly better unless the lower level individual is an ex Dota savant or something.
That talent is what makes her fun. Stunning people for half their health.
Maybe, we did beat them pretty easily, it's just not a very motivating thing to see as soon as you start a game.
I find it very improbably that someone who has 500 levels on a person isn't significantly better unless the lower level individual is an ex Dota savant or something.
Alpha Centauri
Member
You underestimate how much some people suck
Toxxxic
scoobs
Member
Mechanical skill is something that comes much easier for some than others, shouldn't be surprising at all.
Alpha Centauri
Member
I thought the smiley face would make it ok
In all seriousness, Scoobs has it right. Everyone has a skill barrier. Some people have already hit it, but they will continue to play the game for fun. Nothing wrong with that.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'd call it a willingness to learn more than skill barrier. Like I'm perfectly content with being average so I don't even try to nail down map timings and such
Sure, they may have more knowledge. But just because they played a lot doesn't mean they actually improved. I've literally been in the same spot in Diamond for years now, for example. I'm not hardcore enough to parse through replays and so forth to get better and I'm happy where I am.
This game has a high level of variance, as well, which accounts for a lot of the shit/lopsided games we see. Dunktrain touched on this in the last Into the Nexus podcast.
Players don't appreciate the variance in their own play or the play of others from one game to the next. Furthermore, they vastly underestimate the variance from a player who is Diamond playing the 5-8 heroes they are amazing at down to the next 5-8 heroes they play occasionally. In every game there's a myriad of factors from the map to the heroes to the comp that impact how things turn out. Like Dunk says, some are good on certain maps and not others, certain heroes and not others, and in certain roles and not others. This dramatically affects how the game plays out.
Ditto with player levels. The game thinks that you are all in a similar ballpark of MMR overall but that can wildly differ depending on what you are actually playing from one game to the next. The only person in that picture I'd be concerned about is the level 18 -- it's quite easy to ride a run to higher MMR at a low account level before you tail off. I'd say anything sub 50 is cause to be very nervous and expect a wide amount of variance, and for me personally anything sub 200 makes me nervous anyway as I rarely see those people in my games so when I do I know something probably went pear shaped.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
wtf Superstars are up to 2 games against tempo
Alpha Centauri
Member
I really really suck at Thrall
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
My WR with him is pretty bad too, but I attribute part of that due to him not being very QM friendly.
scoobs
Member
No man he crushes QM. He's low key super tanky and people constantly try and fail to kill me as Thrall. His damage scales ridiculously with the wind fury talents too so he just becomes a monster late game
huh, I've apparently played this game enough that I was able to just turn on global quick cast and never look back. I'd started to turn it on ability-by-ability on heroes I was accustomed to using but after playing Kel'Thuzad with all quick cast for a while it was hard to do otherwise.
King Gilga
Member
Man I do not like new leoric at all.
Old leoric was my favorite hero, such a shame.
Old leoric was my favorite hero, such a shame.
Hmmm
Green Jaina is a bit meh, but it's hard to spend 1600 on the default one now, though.
Green Jaina is a bit meh, but it's hard to spend 1600 on the default one now, though.
I haven't had a single good game with him yet, I still don't know if he's good. It's making me not want to play him at all, every time it's such a shitshow.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
when are they gonna remove sky temple from the rotation
that map fucking sucks
that map fucking sucks
Orochinagis
Member
At least its not dragon shrine or the garden map.
Alpha Centauri
Member
Keep calm and Tyrande
I've experienced the same... In theory he is a monster. I've seen a couple matches where he's gone off. But I haven't had much success. He was a 65%+ win rate for me before. I think i've won like once so far with New leo
I've experienced the same... In theory he is a monster. I've seen a couple matches where he's gone off. But I haven't had much success. He was a 65%+ win rate for me before. I think i've won like once so far with New leo
Orochinagis
Member
Man I am losing my placements, strange I dont lose bad but losing in a good term its scary
BreezyLimbo
Banned
i've been losing all day
I'm pretty sure blizzard has decided to simply fill the majority of my games with bots with fake user names and who insult you in game.
scoobs
Member
You gotta not suck at him, and its easy to suck at him.
When you unlock iceblock while you're stuck with a Tracer bomb. EZ
I tried some Zul'jin today. For some reason I didn't like him when he came out, but he's fun now? Maybe his low health mechanic is less fun vs real people, but I enjoyed playing him even in vs ai and that's surprising. I never liked Taz'dingo, so the buff to Guillotine makes it pretty good now.
I tried some Zul'jin today. For some reason I didn't like him when he came out, but he's fun now? Maybe his low health mechanic is less fun vs real people, but I enjoyed playing him even in vs ai and that's surprising. I never liked Taz'dingo, so the buff to Guillotine makes it pretty good now.
jaundicejuice
Member
Quick Match sort of worked when the roster of heroes was smaller and the roles/classifications were more rigidly defined in the Alpha. The more heroes they add and the more the roles/classifications are blurred, the worse Quick Match matchmaking has gotten. Sometimes you can lose a match based off of the team comp the match making provides, unless your opponents are completely awful.
All Pick in Dota is Unranked Draft and basically the equivalent of Quick Match in terms of the mode's popularity. It has a one minute draft period, no bans, and honestly doesn't stop people from making horrible choices, i.e. picking however they want. It gets shrugged off the same way in Dota that is does in HotS "It's All-Pick/Quick Match". You'd be adding one minute on to an average match of twenty minutes. The games would still be quick relative to other MOBAs.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Well I can say one thing at least. Paladin has a blind pick system for their casual matchmaking. And I wish it was quick play every time I play the game because competitive queue (where they have a real draft) takes too long to match make for me. I definitely don't like blind pick.
I think it's fine as it is, they just need to make it more character-centric instead of using non specified roles. So, for example, against a Malthael the other team isn't composed of 5 squishies, but it has at least a tank; a full melee team doesn't go against a full ranged team; more than one stealthy prioritizes someone with a reveal on the other team, and so on.
If they implemented blind pick people would feel compelled to get a real comp or at least a healer, like in OW, and playing with no healers on both sides is something that I like from time to time.
Losing the ability to pick whoever you want would make QM a lot less enjoyable since people would just fight with each other over who they picked instead of blaming Blizzard's mm and moving on immediately.
If they implemented blind pick people would feel compelled to get a real comp or at least a healer, like in OW, and playing with no healers on both sides is something that I like from time to time.
Losing the ability to pick whoever you want would make QM a lot less enjoyable since people would just fight with each other over who they picked instead of blaming Blizzard's mm and moving on immediately.
If you bought bits for HGC we passed another milestone and another mount has been unlocked. Gotta go to the events tab for HGC in Twitch to claim it: https://www.twitch.tv/blizzheroes/esports/hgc-2017
You just gotta not suck at dodging her spells and it's easy to suck. Kappa
Really, though, that comment about Thrall is the most hand wavy ever. If you play well and don't suck at any hero they can be good no? Doesn't change the fact that he's still sitting as the 50th hero winrate wise in QM out of 70 heroes.
You just gotta not suck at dodging her spells and it's easy to suck. Kappa
Really, though, that comment about Thrall is the most hand wavy ever. If you play well and don't suck at any hero they can be good no? Doesn't change the fact that he's still sitting as the 50th hero winrate wise in QM out of 70 heroes.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'm glad cheering has been a success but I wish I could just buy them straight still.
What a convoluted way of milking money out of a community. Seeing the bits leaderboard was even more of a shock. Some people have too much disposable income.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Eh you make it sound so insidious
I agree. It is small and (appears to be) shrinking from the first phase of HGC...but it appears what there is happens to be very committed and willing to put their money where their mouths are so to speak. Whatever it takes to keep Blizzard investing in and improving HGC...cause I'd hate to see what would happen to this game's playerbase knowledge wise without what pro scene we have.
It does chafe a bit. Not what any of us would have wanted, for sure, but probably not much more expensive for just the team related swag overall than what it would've been with gems anyway.
In general inflation has been a bitch on items in the shop post 2.0.
thekillermuffin
Member
Played a TL game last night with friends on Cursed Hollow. I drafted Abathur, my buddy was Illidan. Like the good ol' days, we demolished the enemy. Felt great
scoobs
Member
It's a particularly strong combo right now as dive is just dominating the game.Played a TL game last night with friends on Cursed Hollow. I drafted Abathur, my buddy was Illidan. Like the good ol' days, we demolished the enemy. Felt great
new mcintyre list with his builds too
https://heroeshearth.com/tiers/mcintyre/6497/
dehaka tier 2 smh
https://heroeshearth.com/tiers/mcintyre/6497/
dehaka tier 2 smh
because too low or too high ?
low
i dont play hl but i imagine dehaka, lich, garrosh are all good bans
i dont think kelthuzard needs to be first banned in higher competitive though
Malthael is probably a great first ban for you then. He's Dehaka's 2nd worst matchup and a bad one for Garrosh.
Karsticles
Member
I tried the new Leoric. Siiiick. Love these changes, and he no longer feels like a snooze to play.
Now go back and make Chen, Johanna, and Tyrael fun to play.
Now go back and make Chen, Johanna, and Tyrael fun to play.