DarkJediKnight
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Onix said:
Planet Earth on both Blu-ray and HD DVD have the same crappy Dolby 448k. I made sure when I bought it on Blu-ray. I would've gotten the HD DVD version if it had True HD.
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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Planet Earth on both Blu-ray and HD DVD have the same crappy Dolby 448k. I made sure when I bought it on Blu-ray. I would've gotten the HD DVD version if it had True HD.
Pristine_Condition
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Onix said:
The answer is "yes."
The Main Event said:
WTF??
Really :lol
I've read a couple of 'pro' reviews that list it!?!?!
Sorry for the confusion everybody. God damn internet review sites!
DarkJediKnight said:
It's really pathetic they didn't re-encode the BD version for 640k (HD DVD caps DD at 448k). Really ... how long does it take to re-encode a DD soundtrack from the master?
DarkJediKnight
Member
Onix said:
15-20min. It's not like film transfer.
polyh3dron
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Onix said:
The really pathetic thing is how long it takes to just use the damn master (Uncompressed PCM)
Walter Matthau
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Here it is folks! Taken from Hi-def forums.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2407/index.php
Week: 64 BD:36 HD DVD
YTD: 67 BD:33 HD DVD
SI: 59 BD: 41 HD DVD
Top 10 titles:
Ghost Rider BD 100.00
Planet Earth 26.72
Breach 21.19
Apocalypto 13.69
POTC: Dead Man's Chest 13.60
Planet Earth 13.12
POTC: Black Pearl 11.34
Casino Royale 10.05
Blood Diamond 6.71
Primeval 6.69
AS you can see, the top 10 is just odd, with Ghost rider on top, then 2 HDDVD titles!!!
The drop off with number 1 and the rest of the pack is astounding though.
http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2407/index.php
Week: 64 BD:36 HD DVD
YTD: 67 BD:33 HD DVD
SI: 59 BD: 41 HD DVD
Top 10 titles:
Ghost Rider BD 100.00
Planet Earth 26.72
Breach 21.19
Apocalypto 13.69
POTC: Dead Man's Chest 13.60
Planet Earth 13.12
POTC: Black Pearl 11.34
Casino Royale 10.05
Blood Diamond 6.71
Primeval 6.69
AS you can see, the top 10 is just odd, with Ghost rider on top, then 2 HDDVD titles!!!
The drop off with number 1 and the rest of the pack is astounding though.
Cheap, crappy Funai BRD players on the way for Fall:
http://www.digitimes.com/displays/a20070621PB205.html
http://www.digitimes.com/displays/a20070621PB205.html
Well Ghost rider despite being very bad(i saw it opening weekend) didnt do too bad making around 40 million its opening weekend. It just continues to prove that disc sales are almost directly porportional to box office gross. That said if it does mirror box office expect a huge dropoff next week. :loldjkimothy said:
distantmantra
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Zombie James
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AstroLad said:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...cs_id=1024004&p_id=2526&seq=1&format=2&style=
You can get them even cheaper by buying from Monoprice through eBay.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
Just ordered a Toshiba HD-A2 HD DVD Player,should have it Tuesday 
Couldnt pass up the price and the 5 free movies.
Plus with my 360 getting the red rings of death and not being able to use my hd dvd add going on two weeks now,well it made the choice for a stand alone player easier.
I dont trust that my 360 when I get I back wont fail again.
Guess I'll ebay my hd add on.
Couldnt pass up the price and the 5 free movies.Plus with my 360 getting the red rings of death and not being able to use my hd dvd add going on two weeks now,well it made the choice for a stand alone player easier.
I dont trust that my 360 when I get I back wont fail again.
Guess I'll ebay my hd add on.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
So, it's been a long odyssey for me. MS is stumped as to why the update would mess with my player, as am I. I finally got in touch with a member of the MS HD DVD team. Those guys are some of the nicest I've ever exchanged emails with. Anyway, they're being very generous and are going to send me a unit that has the update and has been tested with every HD DVD that I own. I don't think I can ask for anything more than that. I offered to send them my unit so they can troubleshoot it and hopefully learn what happened so they can avoid that in the future.
In the meantime, I'm back to watching SD DVD's.
I've become really spoiled by HD discs. Congrats on the standalone purchase Matrix, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I'll probably pick one up once the price is right ($199) to experience better audio. I want to upgrade my tv as well. My receiver will be the last thing I upgrade. Probably after I get my Ps3, so by next year if anything.
In the meantime, I'm back to watching SD DVD's.
I've become really spoiled by HD discs. Congrats on the standalone purchase Matrix, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I'll probably pick one up once the price is right ($199) to experience better audio. I want to upgrade my tv as well. My receiver will be the last thing I upgrade. Probably after I get my Ps3, so by next year if anything.
VanMardigan said:So, it's been a long odyssey for me. MS is stumped as to why the update would mess with my player, as am I. I finally got in touch with a member of the MS HD DVD team. Those guys are some of the nicest I've ever exchanged emails with. Anyway, they're being very generous and are going to send me a unit that has the update and has been tested with every HD DVD that I own. I don't think I can ask for anything more than that. I offered to send them my unit so they can troubleshoot it and hopefully learn what happened so they can avoid that in the future.
In the meantime, I'm back to watching SD DVD's.
I've become really spoiled by HD discs. Congrats on the standalone purchase Matrix, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. I'll probably pick one up once the price is right ($199) to experience better audio. I want to upgrade my tv as well. My receiver will be the last thing I upgrade. Probably after I get my Ps3, so by next year if anything.
I've been holding off on doing the stealth update to my HD-DVD player (got the update prior to that). Should I just go for it? If MS' HD-DVD customer support is so good, I feel like I should go for it. You still have their contact info?
ManaByte
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I've pretty much stopped reading The Digital Bits, and I've been reading the site since its start. Bills "HDi looks cool and all, but since Blu-Ray can't do it I think it sucks...but once Blu-Ray can do it then I will think it kicks ass" fanboy rant today was the nail in the coffin.
ManaByte said:
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That isn't how I felt after read it. He just said some of the stuff was stupid tacked on stuff that really doesn't add much to the movie but some of it (Children of Men, Freedom Vol. 1, and what sounds like the extras from 300 but couldn't say the name of the film) was pretty cool. He was basically saying what I feel, that stuff is cool and I might use some of it but what it all comes down to is who has the best movies and he countines to believe with the studio support that Blu Ray has and the prospect of having HD DVD's biggest advantage at this point (that HDi stuff) through BD-J in the fall it isn't enough for him to change his mind. Oh and it would be cool if this PiP stuff could be switched so that the movie is in the window and the extras are in 1080p on the fly.
Speaking of PiP why in gods name can you not turn PiP on without stopping the movie on Warner's disks but you can turn it off without stopping the movie? This is no improvement from the PiP that Linosgate has in Crank and The Descent.
Anyway watched The Matrix today, very awesome and the sound is top notch. I am going to sit through the last 2 tonight, I don't mind 2 but 3.........um yeah
ManaByte said:
What are you talking about? This is pretty much what he said in a nutshell:
HD-DVD: currently wins on features
Blu-ray: currently wins on content
What's most important? Content.
Blu-ray will soon have the features, so outlook will be:
HD-DVD: features
Blu-ray: features + content
Thus, winner = Blu-ray
Seems pretty damn simple and logical to me. The features aren't nearly as important as the content - I 100% agree with him there. Blu-ray IS going to have a similar level of features in the near future. Is HD-DVD going to have a similar level of content in the near future? Probably not. Thus, HD-DVD's current strength will soon be a moot point.
I do have to say, however, that thank god we're finally hearing about downloaded subtitles. I want the option to download subtitles of any major language for every movie I own. It's a simple an easy feature, so get off your ass and get it done, both sides.
Warm Machine
Member
ManaByte said:
TDB has totally lost me. If they want to side with Blu-Ray thats cool and all, just stop covering HD-DVD completely. Ignoring the other format would probably do better for them that slamming it every chance they get. What they are doing is clearly not making them format neutral and it is coloring everything that they write with ample coats of bias. I simply can't trust their reviews of anything because of this.
Warm Machine
Member
My response was in general to TDB not to the article in question. Just riffing off of Mana's feeling about the site.
DarkJediKnight
Member
ManaByte said:
That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying that the MS people firmly believe that HDI alone is going to make HD DVD different from Blu-ray and that extra stuff will ensure both formats will survive. Note the tone from MS? It's not about winning anymore but co-existing. It's absurd!
Funny how HD DVD people like to slam Bill Hunt's for being pro-blu-ray, but when he leaks upcoming HD DVD titles from Universal, etc... that thread will be 10 pages long at AVS.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Eggo said:
The update should be fine. It's just updating the networking stuff so that when titles like Freedom Vol. 1 come out with their net functions, you'll be able to play them. It won't affect the current titles. I still have no idea how mine got screwed up.
But as far as customer service, your experience likely won't be similar to mine if something happens to your add-on. I dealt only briefly with the 800-4myxbox people. I was very fortunate in that I was contacted by a member of the MS HD DVD team. We exchanged emails and phone calls until finally their team decided to just send me a working unit.
In your case, you'd have to go through the standard procedure where you ship it off (provided it's in warranty) and they ship a working unit back to you.
If you're still worried about the update, then you can hold off on it so long as you don't plan to buy network-enabled HD DVD's.
edit: I just read the TDB stuff, and yeah, it's pathetic. It's probably the same reaction you'd get if you showed the same stuff to certain blu ray supporters here. It almost goes without saying that if the Blu Ray camp had pulled him aside and showed him those features, he'd be more excited. In fact, I expect him to rave about the BD+ stuff once it starts coming out later this year. Or maybe he won't, so he won't have to look like a hypocrite.
DarkJediKnight said:
Yeah I noticed that too, which I thought was a strange comment. MS is incorrect in thinking extras will prolong survival. It all has to do with studio support. If Warner were to announce exculsive BRD support tomorrow or Universal were to announce any Blu Ray support this would be over very quick. The same way if Disney and Fox announced HD DVD titles it would greatly change things.
MS was right, if all things were equal (namely studio support) then HD DVD would have already won because it would have had the content, the extras, and the price. But that isn't how it is now because Blu Ray has the the studio support and Universal and Warner are hurting the price perception with their Combo disks that boost prices of new releases consistantly above Blu Ray and Toshiba not extending the rebate so the price difference in stand alone players is the lowest it has ever been. The extras from BD-J will be there on Nov 1.
So what happens then Blu Ray will have the price advantage on disks a majority of the time(this still baffles me as to how Toshiba allowed this to happen), close enough on players, the content, and the extras(which could pontentally be better if it allows for seamless transfer of the PiP stuff)? Toshiba, MS, Intel, and Universal need a gameplan that is better than "look we have extras right now that they don't have". Which is what he was saying.
StoOgE said:
Ok I had a marathon today and watched all of them... I really couldn't tell that much of a difference between 1 and 2/3 in terms of PQ (I thought they all looked great) the sound on all of them was incredible as well.
I agree that the second one isn't that bad. I actually like it, while not as good as the second one it actually has a story that is pretty cohesive, and while it isn't as though provoking it works and leads up to part three pretty well.
Now Revolutions... It starts off where Reloaded ended but did do anything to try and explain what the hell had just happened at the end Reloaded and that exchange you mentioned is classic. Also the ending makes no sense at all. Horrible ending to a good (before it) series.
TerryLee81
Member
Jim said:
Funai had a pretty good cheap DVD player on the market with a Faroudja chip inside, and the BR market needs a cheap player to compete against the cheap Toshibas.
So this is good news.
DarkJediKnight
Member
jjasper said:
I think one of the Wachowski Bros Sex-change op was getting in the way of writing a good, coherent story.
Right after the Blockbuster announcement, hidefdigest.com opened up a new forum for all the ex-supporters of HD-DVD
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53
:lol :lol :lol
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53
:lol :lol :lol
U.S News will have the 'Blockbuster blu-ray' story in their next printed issue. They're only the biggest circulated magazine in the world
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/070624/2dvd.htm
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/articles/070624/2dvd.htm
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Unintentionally, this announcement makes it seem like BB isn't supporting HD DVD, even in it's online service. I think a statement from Netflix announcing that they are increasing their HD DVD supply would go a long way towards gaining them some customers. Not abandoning BR by any means, of course, just coming out on record as still supportive of HD DVD. There are a lot of HD DVD owners who would feel very comfortable in picking up a Netflix account at that point.
Not a big deal, I just see a little opportunity there for Netflix. For example, I'm still a Blockbuster Online client and it's because of the ability to rent from the local store. If Netflix made a statement like the one above, however, I would easily change my account over to theirs. Not to spite Blockbuster necessarily, but for a more abundant HD DVD supply. BB is pretty bad when it comes to getting newer HD DVD releases.
Not a big deal, I just see a little opportunity there for Netflix. For example, I'm still a Blockbuster Online client and it's because of the ability to rent from the local store. If Netflix made a statement like the one above, however, I would easily change my account over to theirs. Not to spite Blockbuster necessarily, but for a more abundant HD DVD supply. BB is pretty bad when it comes to getting newer HD DVD releases.
MickeyKnox
Member
Or they could go BR exclusive as well, helping to end this retarded format war quicker to the benefit of all.VanMardigan said:
VanMardigan said:
Unintentionally?
Anyways, yea, keep up the good fight. Better if this stupid format war was over quicker. Funny how some will claim high ground and that they don't really care who wins but are quick to come up with ideas or excuses to drag the format war out further just because their format of choice took a big hit.
Warm Machine
Member
captive said:
Have you read the synopsis of her story? Tenuous at best.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Cheap HD-DVD players = huge adoption rate, real start of HD format mainstream appeal, end of BluRay
Cheap BluRay players = nary a word.
This tells me the online community is out of touch with reality.
I called it before, both formats will have reasonably cheap players by the holiday season (under $200 for HD, under $300 for BluRay). I'm sticking by that.
Oh, and Mana, you're such a hypocrite. You spin madly while claiming to be neutral and yet bitch about a site with a stated (and logically reasoned) preference.
Cheap BluRay players = nary a word.
This tells me the online community is out of touch with reality.
I called it before, both formats will have reasonably cheap players by the holiday season (under $200 for HD, under $300 for BluRay). I'm sticking by that.
Oh, and Mana, you're such a hypocrite. You spin madly while claiming to be neutral and yet bitch about a site with a stated (and logically reasoned) preference.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Ignatz Mouse said:
I think it rather shows that the blu-ray crowd is not all that much concerned anymore.
HD-DVD Fans will grasp at any straw at this point.
It could also be a whole host of things, I personally did not tout it anyway, because I dislike crap players.
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