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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
The Patriot blu-ray looks great, its the directors cut which is running 165 minutes. Its strange there are quite a few scenes that i dont recall(i have seen this movie quite a few times) but my special edition dvd version is also runtime 165 minutes.
I wonder what the differences are, besides the quite a few added scenes i noticed in the beginning.

Edit: nevermind, high def digest listed it wrong, the back of the box says its 174 minutes.
 

djkimothy

Member
bune duggy said:
since I just started buying Blu-Ray movies, I'm going to have to read this entire thread aren't I?

quick question, though: Buy Pirates 1&2 now and get 3 later or just buy all 3 in the box set?

I don't think there's a box set announced. So you're safe with the Pirates 1&2 for now. But You can almost bet on that double dip.
 

Bebpo

Banned
djkimothy said:
I don't think there's a box set announced. So you're safe with the Pirates 1&2 for now. But You can almost bet on that double dip.

I think digitalbits listed a boxset in their rumors at some point. Makes sense and it'll probably be cheaper than buying all 3 seperate.
 

Dartastic

Member
jet1911 said:
Finally got my Hot Fuzz copy to work on my 360 player. This movie is great. :lol

Also watched 300 on Blu Ray. The picture quality is incredible. :eek:

Yeah. I have yet to invest in a HD player, as I'm not going to get one until there's a standard format. However, due to circumstances beyond my control (my being able to get a 60 gig PS3 for 375 with an extra controller) I'm going to be the owner of a Blu-Ray player on Monday. Here's my perspective on this whole HD war, real quick like. Not like anyone cares, or that it really matters, but oh well.

This is stupid. Period. When HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were introduced, HDTV penetration was so low that the amount of people actually BUYING these players would have been (and was) minuscule. I, among many, many people wish that instead of rushing two different players to market, they took their time, resolved their differences, and released a single player that every movie studio could have rallied around. By that time, HDTV penetration would have been higher, they could have championed this disk as the TRUE next DVD due to it really being the only choice they could make, and the prices would have already been at a lower level than they are now. Besides, are DVDs really that bad, in terms of picture quality? I fully champion HD media, however I watched Apocalypto last night on my Phillips 1080i TV in 480p, and that movie looked wonderful. I can't imagine that it would have looked THAT much better in HD. Sigh. There's SO much more I could touch on, but I guess I'll just stay out of it and get to the point of this whole post.

I'm not going to have anything to play on my PS3 when I pick it up on Monday. I was thinking about picking up 300. I don't really need to OWN any PS3 games right now, at least of the games I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe Ninja Gaiden Sigma? I'm going to wait for VF5 on the 360, and Resistance is not a must own for me. That is, unless I can find it for around 30 bucks. I WOULD have picked up Hot Fuzz (what a fantastic movie, I recommend it to everyone) but that's HD-DVD only. Ugh. Planet Earth is... well... jury is still out on that one. So. Here's the point. Any suggestions on what I should pick up with my PS3 purchase?
 

Evlar

Banned
Dartastic said:
Yeah. I have yet to invest in a HD player, as I'm not going to get one until there's a standard format. However, due to circumstances beyond my control (my being able to get a 60 gig PS3 for 375 with an extra controller) I'm going to soon be the owner of a Blu-Ray player. Here's my perspective on this whole HD war, real quick like. Not like anyone cares, or that it really matters, but oh well.

This is stupid. Period. When HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were introduced, HDTV penetration was so low that the amount of people actually BUYING these players would have been (and was) minuscule. I, among many, many people wish that instead of rushing two different players to market, they took their time, resolved their differences, and released a single player that every movie studio could have rallied around. By that time, HDTV penetration would have been higher, they could have championed this disk as the TRUE next DVD due to it really being the only choice they could make, and the prices would have already been at a lower level than they are now. Besides, are DVDs really that bad, in terms of picture quality? I fully champion HD media, however I watched Apocalypto last night on my Phillips 1080i TV in 480p, and that movie looked wonderful. I can't imagine that it would have looked THAT much better in HD. Sigh. There's SO much more I could touch on, but I guess I'll just stay out of it and get to the point of this whole post.

I'm not going to have anything to play on my PS3 when I pick it up on Monday. I was thinking about picking up 300. I don't really need to OWN any PS3 games right now, at least of the games I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe Ninja Gaiden Sigma? I'm going to wait for VF5 on the 360, and Resistance is not a must own for me. That is, unless I can find it for around 30 bucks. I WOULD have picked up Hot Fuzz (what a fantastic movie, I recommend it to everyone) but that's HD-DVD only. Ugh. Planet Earth is... well... jury is still out on that one. So. Here's the point. Any suggestions on what I should pick up with my PS3 purchase?
I think everyone with an HD player should eventually own Planet Earth, because it's a truly stunning look at the natural world (and the best possible showcase of your HD setup). But it's expensive.

Other stuff depends of course on what you like. The Pirates Of the Caribbean 1 and 2 Blu Ray versions are high quality and the pyrotechnic effects of the films show off HD nicely. Casino Royale is probably the best Bond film made and it works well on Blu Ray. The Queen, Babel, Letters from Iwo Jima and The Departed are all Oscar caliber films that look very good in HD. Of those I would say Letters from Iwo Jima is the best.
 

Crayon Shinchan

Aquafina Fanboy
Dartastic said:
Yeah. I have yet to invest in a HD player, as I'm not going to get one until there's a standard format. However, due to circumstances beyond my control (my being able to get a 60 gig PS3 for 375 with an extra controller) I'm going to be the owner of a Blu-Ray player on Monday. Here's my perspective on this whole HD war, real quick like. Not like anyone cares, or that it really matters, but oh well.

This is stupid. Period. When HD-DVD and Blu-Ray were introduced, HDTV penetration was so low that the amount of people actually BUYING these players would have been (and was) minuscule. I, among many, many people wish that instead of rushing two different players to market, they took their time, resolved their differences, and released a single player that every movie studio could have rallied around. By that time, HDTV penetration would have been higher, they could have championed this disk as the TRUE next DVD due to it really being the only choice they could make, and the prices would have already been at a lower level than they are now. Besides, are DVDs really that bad, in terms of picture quality? I fully champion HD media, however I watched Apocalypto last night on my Phillips 1080i TV in 480p, and that movie looked wonderful. I can't imagine that it would have looked THAT much better in HD. Sigh. There's SO much more I could touch on, but I guess I'll just stay out of it and get to the point of this whole post.

I'm not going to have anything to play on my PS3 when I pick it up on Monday. I was thinking about picking up 300. I don't really need to OWN any PS3 games right now, at least of the games I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe Ninja Gaiden Sigma? I'm going to wait for VF5 on the 360, and Resistance is not a must own for me. That is, unless I can find it for around 30 bucks. I WOULD have picked up Hot Fuzz (what a fantastic movie, I recommend it to everyone) but that's HD-DVD only. Ugh. Planet Earth is... well... jury is still out on that one. So. Here's the point. Any suggestions on what I should pick up with my PS3 purchase?

Buy Super Startdust HD. Or there's no point in living!
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
I fully champion HD media, however I watched Apocalypto last night on my Phillips 1080i TV in 480p, and that movie looked wonderful. I can't imagine that it would have looked THAT much better in HD.

And you'd be wrong. No matter how great a dvd looks (Hot Fuzz and 300 both look great on dvd), the HD version blows it away.
 
I was watching the HD-DVD of Hot Fuzz today (I watched the DVD side at a hotel the wife and I were at on our mini honeymoon). The picture quality is pretty damn amazing and this was on a 52" 1080p 120hz Sharp Aquos with Dot by Dot. Not necessarily the best I've seen on HD-DVD but certainly up there.

I actually like the combo thing and it has saved my ass a few times. Most recently at the hotel and where my wife works. I feel no worries buying an combo as I know I'll always have something to play the movie on. What is the downside to these discs again besides price?
 

Dartastic

Member
VanMardigan said:
And you'd be wrong. No matter how great a dvd looks (Hot Fuzz and 300 both look great on dvd), the HD version blows it away.

Well, we'll see about that one. The guy I'm buying my PS3 from also has Casino Royale, so I might try and see if I can get that from him for 10/15 bucks. My work also has it on DVD, so I can do a direct comparison. I was also thinking of doing that with 300. Just wondering, but how much is Calling All Cars, and is it worth my hard earned cash?
 

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
distantmantra said:
I finally saw Ratatouille earlier today, what a fantastic film. Can't wait to pick it up on Blu Ray in November!


Yeah....INSANE that the last two Pixar movies will be released on the same day....

IMO, this implies future Pixar Blu Ray releases (WALL-E) are very much likely to arrive day and date with the DVD version.....so all they need to do is release that Blu Ray version of the Incredibles and all will be right in the world:D
 

kaching

"GAF's biggest wanker"
VanMardigan said:
Oh shit, you're still mad I don't know who you are and I don't remember arguing with you?? LET IT GO, you sound pathetic!!!! :lol
You're laughing and so am I - you have to see the humor in how you've tried to play dumb in our exchange ("I don't know who you are - I don't even know what we're talking about anymore!") and yet have the uncanny ability to instantly dredge up something said in another forum what must have been many months or even more than a year ago to try to nail chubs. The occurrences of memory loss and total recall are awfully convenient. As is your ability to divine the emotional state of someone you claim is a perfect stranger, who you say you aren't making any assumptions about.

Even taking it at face value that you've conveniently forgotten ever conversing in this thread, it still doesn't do your case much good. When I replied to you _respectfully_ in post 8875, your immediate response was impolite and dismissive towards someone who, from your claimed point of view, was a newcomer. If this thread had a welcoming committee it's good that we at least know now not to put you on it, since you don't seem interested in giving "new" participants any sort of benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: LOL - Why'd I type all that. Because it took all of two minutes to type, like a couple of short paragraphs would for any normal person with decent typing skills. You clearly don't understand why I've ignored your multiple requests to sweep the argument under the rug to end this discussion: it's because you've been disingenuous and backhanded about this from the very beginning of our exchange. Even now, as you offer an apology, you make with the backhanded insinuations that I must be throwing a hissy fit and try to make two short paragraphs sound like result of hours of obsessive pounding on the keyboard, just like my original point about standalone players was instantly overplayed as "terrible" and "illogical" even though you never proved such a thing. You've given me no reason to simply let you off the hook.

So there's another massive paragraph that took me another whopping minute to type. As a favor to you, I've added it to this post, to make your "all that" insinuation look at least a little plausible to anyone skimming the thread superficially. ;) As a favor to everyone else in the thread, I won't bump the thread with this dispute again.
 

VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Why'd you type all that?

I know chubs, from the IGN DS and PsP forums. I don't (or didn't) know you. You can't relate? You remember every debate you've had with every forum member? Some forum members stick in your head, some (like you) just don't (at least not until you just threw this hissy fit). You were trying to say that a previous discussion we had tainted my perception of what you wrote but I didn't remember you OR the discussion. So you were wrong. Let it go.

Go ahead and click on this thread's post count and see how much times I've posted here. Why would I necessarily remember a debate I had with you, even if it was "a few pages back"?

And seriously, this is like my 10th post asking you to drop it. And I promise you I won't respond to any more of your childish nonsense. So you say I was rude to you in my initial post: fine, I apologize for that.
 
3996.jpg


And here is the awesome cover to my most anticipated Animated flick in HD.

I don't care if you love animation or not. Fans of good movies MUST BUY this!
 

djkimothy

Member
DarkJediKnight said:
[imhttp://dvd.themanroom.com/images/covers/bluray/large/3996.jpg[/img]

And here is the awesome cover to my most anticipated Animated flick in HD.

I don't care if you love animation or not. Fans of good movies MUST BUY this!

That's an awesome cover minus the "beyond high definition" crap at the bottom. i can't wait for this movie! :D
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
DarkJediKnight said:
http://dvd.themanroom.com/images/covers/bluray/large/3996.jpg[/img]

And here is the awesome cover to my most anticipated Animated flick in HD.

I don't care if you love animation or not. Fans of good movies MUST BUY this!


The Incredibles or Finding Nemo should have been the first blu-ray Pixar title...
 

pgtl_10

Member
What if Walmart decides to carry HD-DVD players for cheap during the holiday season? How much of an impact would that have on the format war?
 

Cheebs

Member
the type of people who will be buying HD players over the next year or two are not the type who would make a impulse buy at wal-mart.
 
Man, i honestly thought Ratatouille was the second worst pixar movie i've seen (the first being a bug's life.) I'm much more excited for blu-ray releases of finding nemo, the incredibles, and of course, toy story.
 
Thw worst (by far) Pixar movie is Cars, IMHO. Not as excited about that on BluRay. I'll probably get it, if only becuase I never got around to getting the DVD (a first for me and Pixar movies).

Ratatouille is in my top teir. Nemo, the Toy Story movies, Rat. I didn't seem to love Incredibles as much as everyone else. Funny, great movie, but not one of Pixar's best.

Of course, outside of Cars, they're all just different shades of great.
 

jjasper

Member
Ignatz Mouse said:
Thw worst (by far) Pixar movie is Cars, IMHO. Not as excited about that on BluRay. I'll probably get it, if only becuase I never got around to getting the DVD (a first for me and Pixar movies).

Ratatouille is in my top teir. Nemo, the Toy Story movies, Rat. I didn't seem to love Incredibles as much as everyone else. Funny, great movie, but not one of Pixar's best.

Of course, outside of Cars, they're all just different shades of great.

I agree about Cars. I love them all, but there was something about Cars that just didn't sit well with me. It doesn't matter though cause my gf loves it so I will be buying it.
 
Oh guys, you know what? This is so unfair man.

Like HD-DVD carries the right to the Bourne series!!! I just realised that. That blows. Oh man, why, the one series I really wanted to own on Blu-Ray just got NEGATED! Damn Universal and their HD-DVD exclusive partnership. Is that studio really that dumb?
 

djkimothy

Member
FortunateSon said:
Oh guys, you know what? This is so unfair man.

Like HD-DVD carries the right to the Bourne series!!! I just realised that. That blows. Oh man, why, the one series I really wanted to own on Blu-Ray just got NEGATED! Damn Universal and their HD-DVD exclusive partnership. Is that studio really that dumb?

Well, you can always get it upscaled if you can't wait for Universal's neutrality. ;)
 
FortunateSon said:
Oh guys, you know what? This is so unfair man.

Like HD-DVD carries the right to the Bourne series!!! I just realised that. That blows. Oh man, why, the one series I really wanted to own on Blu-Ray just got NEGATED! Damn Universal and their HD-DVD exclusive partnership. Is that studio really that dumb?

No.
 
http://hddvdformat.blogspot.com/

Paramount Pictures (Japan) will be releasing Top Gun on HD DVD, this October 26. Fans of Top Gun will be glad to know that the Japanese HD DVD release contains the Dolby TrueHD 6.1 (English) lossless and Dolby Digital-Plus 6.1 (English & Japanese) audio tracks. DTS-ES 6.1 (English) audio option is also provided. The disc contains English & Japanese subtitle options. It is expected to be priced at 4,935 Yen (inclusive of relevant taxes).

An audio commentary (which I suspect is the one ported over from the Special Collector's Edition DVD) could also be expected on this release, pending further confirmation.

Based on the current information that I have, it seems that the North American HD DVD/BD release of Top Gun is missing out on these features. The North American HD DVD/BD release contains 5.1-channel audio whether uncompressed, lossless or lossy - Dolby Digital (Plus) - and does not have any of the DVD special features ported over.

Lossless Dolby TrueHD 6.1 soundtrack.
 

jet1911

Member
Dartastic said:
Any suggestions on what I should pick up with my PS3 purchase?

I own 5 movies on Blu Ray and I think they are all really good buy.

300
A Scanner Darkly
Casino Royale
Reservoir Dogs
Planet Earth.

You really should get Planet Earth, it's incredible. The picture quality of this A Scanner Darkly is great. Animated films like this really benefit from HD. I still need to pick Final Fantasy.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
FortunateSon said:
Oh guys, you know what? This is so unfair man.

Like HD-DVD carries the right to the Bourne series!!! I just realised that. That blows. Oh man, why, the one series I really wanted to own on Blu-Ray just got NEGATED! Damn Universal and their HD-DVD exclusive partnership. Is that studio really that dumb?

People don't seem to mind owning multiple game systems, what's so bad about two high-def players?
 
Hotarubi said:
People don't seem to mind owning multiple game systems, what's so bad about two high-def players?

I don't really care to own two game systems either, but for movies, which are essentially identical content, it's extra obnoxious. Add in the fact that the format will be active a lot longer than a game system's lifespan and it becomes something for me to actively avoid.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
I don't really care to own two game systems either, but for movies, which are essentially identical content, it's extra obnoxious. Add in the fact that the format will be active a lot longer than a game system's lifespan and it becomes something for me to actively avoid.


Plus the Universal flics will be Blu-Ray eventually anyway. I can wait.
 

rkenshin

Member
Hotarubi said:
People don't seem to mind owning multiple game systems, what's so bad about two high-def players?

I wouldn't buy two HD players but if it playbacks through my gaming consoles then sure, I'll get both that way and I did..

Don't see a problem with that investment and maybe buy a combo player down the line if that's still in the works
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Hotarubi said:
People don't seem to mind owning multiple game systems, what's so bad about two high-def players?

Nothing really. Its just console fanboy mentality. Of couirse some people think that 2 formats are causing the slow adoption rate when in reality its the price of the plaers more than any other factor.
 
rkenshin said:
I wouldn't buy two HD players but if it playbacks through my gaming consoles then sure, I'll get both that way and I did..

Don't see a problem with that investment and maybe buy a combo player down the line if that's still in the works

I think gamers win. At some point the add on will be $100 and everyone's going to own a PS3 at some point. Well, everyone who posts here.
 

Cosmic Bus

pristine morning snow
captive said:
Do you have cable and satellite as well?

I don't have either, actually. :)

I'm just saying... There are exclusives on consoles and there are crossover titles, and plenty of people buy a system if they want to play something specific on it. Why is high-def any different?
 
Days like these... said:
Nothing really. Its just console fanboy mentality. Of couirse some people think that 2 formats are causing the slow adoption rate when in reality its the price of the plaers more than any other factor.

No actually for me its more like if I buy multiple BR players I can have them on each TV, just like my DVD players now. That way I can play my BR flics on every TV. If I buy a HD-DVD I have to pick where I want to watch flics. Not going to happen.

Nothing fanboy about it. Hell I thought people said I was a xbot anyway. :lol
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
I don't really care to own two game systems either, but for movies, which are essentially identical content, it's extra obnoxious. Add in the fact that the format will be active a lot longer than a game system's lifespan and it becomes something for me to actively avoid.

What about the people who are owning both and are playing their HD DVD movies through their 360 and BD through their PS3.

They're basically playing their discs through their game consoles.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Days like these... said:
Nothing really. Its just console fanboy mentality. Of couirse some people think that 2 formats are causing the slow adoption rate when in reality its the price of the plaers more than any other factor.
Yet another shockingly insightful post, keep up the good work.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Hotarubi said:
I don't have either, actually. :)

I'm just saying... There are exclusives on consoles and there are crossover titles, and plenty of people buy a system if they want to play something specific on it. Why is high-def any different?

Thats exactly what I was going to say. I dont see anyone saying PS triple hurry and die (with it being in third place and all). So that 360 can get ff and MGS. Seems pretty hypocritical to me
 
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