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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Warm Machine
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MS should get the add-on down to $125 or lower heading into November. I got mine for $200cdn last Christmas so this new US price is pretty strange.
mrklaw said:
Jin-Roh is September 25th in Japan.
Patlabor...http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/6445.php. I never saw the first Patlabor movie (just some of the TV series & movie 3) so I'm not paying the BV prices for it.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
djkimothy said:I can't! With where the TV is in the living room, it's impossible to set up a proper 5.1 system. This is why I need a good job and move out.
Who knew an MSc in chemistry is worthless. :/
We need some science teachers in the USVI. The pay is modest, but you get to live in paradise.
VanMardigan said:We need some science teachers in the USVI. The pay is modest, but you get to live in paradise.
Sounds sweet. But the reason I'm having trouble looking for jobs is that I'm holding out to live here in Ottawa.
It would be nice to get a job at Health Canada! Damn them and their "friends only" hiring policy!
ManaByte
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Heroes HD-DVD features (with screens):
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7844
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7844
StanTheCaddy
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for as many blu ray fanboys there are here, youd think they realize that if it wasnt for toshiba and hddvd theyd still be paying way to much for players and still be getting bit rate starved mpeg-2 releases. Being a HD fan is good, being a HD fanboy is not. if you truly like hi def movies buy both and stop caring about being on a "winning" side. some of you act as if youre personally vested in the war and it hinges on you personally buying every single hd release and pushing propaganda all day long on an internet message board
DarkJediKnight
Member
StanTheCaddy said:
1. The price of PS3 would have no effect. Most of us Blu-ray fans here own a PS3.
2. Mpeg-2 was a holdover until Sony and Panasonic completed their AVC codecs. Sony stated this in June 2006. Now most releases are in AVC from Sony, Disney, Lionsgate. Fox, we'll see once they release anything.
3. People can buy whatever they want. I think for most people here, we want ONE format. I think it's pretty logical to root for the winning format so that we can quickly have some peace.
Christopher
Member
I went to return Ninja Gaiden to blockbuster and there were blu ray signs EVERYWHERE "Experience the next in high definition" or something like that.
StanTheCaddy
Banned
the ps3 price is irrelevant as its no longer the cheapest blu ray player, the $300 sony is much more desirable than a $500 ps3.
mpeg-2 releases were a holdover now huh? so not only did the blu-ray group knowingly release transfers that were terrible, they were now to hold people over so they could double dip them, give me a break. without competition they would have taken there sweet time trying to implement better audio and video, they arent doing it out of the generosity of their heart, theyre trying to win the war. They did this as a holdover for what, finishing the specs on the format (which still havnt been completed). do you think java implementation would be where its at if it wasnt for the competition?
mpeg-2 releases were a holdover now huh? so not only did the blu-ray group knowingly release transfers that were terrible, they were now to hold people over so they could double dip them, give me a break. without competition they would have taken there sweet time trying to implement better audio and video, they arent doing it out of the generosity of their heart, theyre trying to win the war. They did this as a holdover for what, finishing the specs on the format (which still havnt been completed). do you think java implementation would be where its at if it wasnt for the competition?
StanTheCaddy
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captive said:
and i can easily name more mpeg2 titles that launched with the player that are considered crap, goes both ways.
in the end, as long as i have the movie with lossless audio and a pristine 1080p picture, i wouldnt care what format its on. competition drives down prices and is beneficial to the consumer.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
StanTheCaddy said:
Times like this, I wish we could reach across the internet and slap the shit out of people.
Apparently competition between the studios isn't enough to provide excellent picture and sound.
Apparently competition between CE companies isn't enough to provide well built and competitively affordable machines in time.
Apparently we need a double layer of incompatible formats on top of studio/CE competition to confuse consumers and form like Voltron to solve all the worlds problems.
Problems like having one movie in one format (Evil Dead 2 - only on Blu-ray) and the sequel on another (Army of Darkness - Only on HD DVD).
Thanks Format War!
Apparently competition between CE companies isn't enough to provide well built and competitively affordable machines in time.
Apparently we need a double layer of incompatible formats on top of studio/CE competition to confuse consumers and form like Voltron to solve all the worlds problems.
Problems like having one movie in one format (Evil Dead 2 - only on Blu-ray) and the sequel on another (Army of Darkness - Only on HD DVD).
Thanks Format War!
StanTheCaddy
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Crayon Shinchan said:
This coming from the largest blu ray fanboy on this board. man i bet sony is so proud of you
youre not a movie fan, youre a format fan as indicated by
1) your extreme dedication to both sony and a movie format
2) the titles you purchase
theres no point in arguing with you because you obviously hate movies
dont get me wrong i love both formats, but if i can get a format with the best of both worlds id be more than happy to adopt that as the winning format, until then ill continue to buy both and *gasp* actually enjoy watching hi def movies rather than try and convince myself and others that one format is better than the other
if you dont think competition drives down prices and creates sales your foolish. i guess the Blu ray group decided to throw in 5 free bd's out of generosity :lol
if hd-dvd fails, guess what ill still have a player and my discs will still work just fine. hell i can buy sealed laser disc player to this date and it would play laser discs without a problem
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Another self-righteous HD-DVD defender calling out "fanboys," oh yay.
StanTheCaddy
Banned
get off of it, i own more blu rays than i do HD-DVD's. This thread is worthless. I mean if half of you were actually rational rather than being so quick to discount anything said about HD-DVD we could probably be civil and actually talk about HD content rather than bicker about a format war.
StanTheCaddy said:
I am actually enjoying the format war. You know supporting the underdog. Of course, if it weren't for the PS3, BD would be dead in the water.
I agree that with the competition, things have been moving faster than they would have otherwise. Although, even if there was one single dominant format, the competition between studios and component manufactures themselves would likely have helped quality along as well.
Who really knows what would have happend, but what did happen was something similar to what you're arguing I suppose.
Christoff Yurievich
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oh shit, there's an ignore feature?
8 posts into your stay on GAF and all you've done is piss people off. You're going places, stan.
8 posts into your stay on GAF and all you've done is piss people off. You're going places, stan.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
StanTheCaddy said:
The titles I purchase? And what titles are those?
I obviously hate movies?
You ARE irrational.
Even with evidence right in your face; MPEG2 transfers can be of exceptional quality, you use it as a negative talking point.
Regardless of what you own, it doesn't prevent you from been an uninformed douche of titanic proportions.
Christoff Yurievich
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I will be getting mine next week, I hope. I can't wait to see it, I've heard so many good thing about it.captive said:
the "new" one with the american narrator is only available online, right? I don't want to get that one on accident (it is 1080i instead of 1080P, for one thing).
StanTheCaddy
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well you yourself stated your collection is already in the mid hundreds of blu ray, so that right there show that you buy some absolute shit.
none of the mpeg 2 transfers that launched with blu ray were good at all. hell they had to remaster fifth element to please the fans. of course you can get mpeg 2 to look good, theres no denying that, but i doubt they would have rushed to release good look movies if hd dvd wouldnt have helped push them along
hey captive did you pick up the bbc version or the discovery?? ive been waiting patiently to buy it after netflixing it twice and watching it on the discovery channel, i just havnt decided what version
none of the mpeg 2 transfers that launched with blu ray were good at all. hell they had to remaster fifth element to please the fans. of course you can get mpeg 2 to look good, theres no denying that, but i doubt they would have rushed to release good look movies if hd dvd wouldnt have helped push them along
hey captive did you pick up the bbc version or the discovery?? ive been waiting patiently to buy it after netflixing it twice and watching it on the discovery channel, i just havnt decided what version
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
The BBC version is the best one IMO.
Yes i got the BBC version, i price matched Best Buys insanely stupid price of 99 dollars, for frys much more amazon like price of 69, handed over my gift cards and paid 10 bucks difference.
And you cant mistake the Discovery edition for the BBC edition because A) its only online and B) the BBC edition says "BBC" right on the front, back and side of the box.
And you cant mistake the Discovery edition for the BBC edition because A) its only online and B) the BBC edition says "BBC" right on the front, back and side of the box.
StanTheCaddy
Banned
yeah i think this month might be the month to get it as there isnt really anything on either format worth buying this month, so this would be the only time id could use spare dvd money
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
StanTheCaddy said:
I what? There aren't even a few hundred BD releases out. You're delusional. Get some reading comprehension then come back.
Why would Sony want to use MPEG2 when they've got AVC sorted?
But it's not to say that MPEG2 encodes can't look good. You're focusing far too much on a few letters. They're not the major determining factor of image quality. A better codec helps sure, but a well transferred MPEG2 encode easily beats out a poorly done VC-1 or AVC encode.
Christoff Yurievich
Member
good to hear that. btw, is that Fry's price in an ad or something that I can take in and have them price match it as well?captive said:
You're undermining the 'benefit' of competing formats by telling everyone to buy both formats, spending as much as they would have on this fictitious single monopolistic format.StanTheCaddy said:
If you're going to espouse the benefits of competition, don't turn around in the next sentence and completely neuter that benefit.
AgentOtaku
Member
hot damn!
...i'm sorry but I think the Dracula cover is awesome
...i'm sorry but I think the Dracula cover is awesome
DarkJediKnight
Member
djkimothy said:I can't! With where the TV is in the living room, it's impossible to set up a proper 5.1 system. This is why I need a good job and move out.
Who knew an MSc in chemistry is worthless. :/
Get a 2.1 system. 2 front speakers and a sub. Even something halfway decent will wow you.
OokieSpookie
Banned
AgentOtaku said:
Agreed, day one for sure.
DarkJediKnight
Member
Official numbers from Warner.
1st week: 162.5k for Blu-ray. 87.5k for HD DVD. Nearly 2:1 ratio for Blu-ray.
2nd week: 28k for Blu-ray. 10k for HD DVD. Nearly 3:1 ratio for Blu-ray.
Anyone see a trend?
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