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[Crayon Shinchan]

Official numbers from Warner.

1st week: 162.5k for Blu-ray. 87.5k for HD DVD. Nearly 2:1 ratio for Blu-ray.
2nd week: 28k for Blu-ray. 10k for HD DVD. Nearly 3:1 ratio for Blu-ray.

Anyone see a trend?

Yeah. I won't be getting my Spiderman trilogy box set

 

[rkenshin]

Yeah. I won't be getting my Spiderman trilogy box set

That Spider-Man 2 BRD better have that extra 7 minutes from the extended edition (at least as an option between the two versions)

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

if I read the press release correctly the box will have Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spider-Man 2.1, and finally Spider-Man 3.

EDIT: ok, so I don't know where I read that but I did read it. I'll keep looking for a link.

 

[Costanza]

Get a 2.1 system. 2 front speakers and a sub. Even something halfway decent will wow you.

How much does something like that cost? I'm still using my TV speakers..

 

[Matchew]

Ok this might be a pretty stupid question, but can HD-DVD play on a regular dvd player like it was just a plain dvd?

 

[Manmademan]

Ok this might be a pretty stupid question, but can HD-DVD play on a regular dvd player like it was just a plain dvd?

not as dumb as you think. Hybrid Discs can, Standard HD-DVDs can't. There's no increase in quality for doing so, they end up looking just like DVDs.

Of course, hybrids cost more, kind of defeating the purpose.

 

[Matchew]

So only a few movies are hybrids that sucks. Also is it worth getting a HD-DVD or blu-ray if you only have a 23" (I think its 23") HDTV?

 

[Ponn]

Has anyone else tried using that 20 percent off one item at TRU coupon floating around on an HD-DVD addon yet? I've only found one person who said they tried it and were successful and paid 155 bucks with tax for it.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

I'm going to try on Thursday. I'd like to find out how easy it would be to hook the player up to my computer (apparently I have a HDCP monitor so I'm good there, I just need a new video card) and if it's even worth it.

 

[Ponn]

I'm going to try on Thursday. I'd like to find out how easy it would be to hook the player up to my computer (apparently I have a HDCP monitor so I'm good there, I just need a new video card) and if it's even worth it.

Keep me posted, I get paid friday and was going to use it then and chill with Batman Begins in HD over the weekend.

 

[Pristine_Condition]

for as many blu ray fanboys there are here, youd think they realize that if it wasnt for toshiba and hddvd theyd still be paying way to much for players and still be getting bit rate starved mpeg-2 releases. Being a HD fan is good, being a HD fanboy is not. if you truly like hi def movies buy both and stop caring about being on a "winning" side. some of you act as if youre personally vested in the war and it hinges on you personally buying every single hd release and pushing propaganda all day long on an internet message board

* Buying both kinds of players will certainly offset any cost savings benefit gained from this dual format nonsense. So that point makes no sense.

* If you are concerned about getting maximum bitrate, why wouldn't you prefer Blu-ray, the technology that allows for the higher bitrate of the two formats?

* Mpeg 2 at high bitrates has proven to be high quality, so I don't know why you even bothered to mention that.



[EDIT]

and i can easily name more mpeg2 titles that launched with the player that are considered crap, goes both ways.

Oh, now I see your game. You are still trying to in the "crap" label on Mpeg2 based only on a handful of titles released in the infancy of the format, and ignoring all of the absolutely beautiful Mpeg2 titles that have released since then.

Pretty skewed way of looking at reality there...

 

[brandonh83]

That Spider-Man 2 BRD better have that extra 7 minutes from the extended edition (at least as an option between the two versions)

That's the key for me. If it does, I'll get the set. Spider-man 1 is great, Spider-man 2 is better, but after seeing the extended cut I will only buy Spider-man 2.1. If Spider-man 3 hadn't sucked, I would have gotten the set regardless.

 

[djkimothy]

For those with HDDVD only systems. Warner UK released The Prestige for import.

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/997/prestige_uk.html

However, they oddly decided to use the dumbed down Dolby Digital plus 640 kbps. No TrueHD. :/

Alas, all things are not equal between this HD DVD import and its US-released Blu-ray counterpart. While Buena Vista delivered a terrific uncompressed PCM 5.1 surround track (48 kHz/24-bit/6.9mpbs) for 'The Prestige' on Blu-ray, it gets demoted here to a measly 640kbps Dolby Digital-Plus track, and it just can't compete. While the Blu-ray was not truly reference quality (the film's sound design is probably a bit too reserved for that), it certainly trounces its UK HD DVD counterpart.

Everything else is faithful to the Blu-ray release.

 

[DarkJediKnight]

Outside of US, Blu-ray has a 3:1 edge.

All that said, internationally Blu-ray enjoys a wider margin of close to 3:1 over HD DVD. In its report of first-half home entertainment sales internationally, research concern Media Control GfK International shows consumers outside the U.S. bought about 650,000 units of Blu-ray software, valued at more than $23 million, with HD DVD selling just around 240,000 units valued at about $8.5 million in the first half.

http://www.videobusiness.com/blog/1120000312.html#990013099

Not big numbers, but numbers nonetheless.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

Go Blu!

I wonder which of the standard responses to this we'll see from the HD-DVD marketing group?

Will it be:

Standalone unit sales?
Relative software increases that ignore absolute numbers?
Promises of a change in fortune once cheaper (yet) players hit the market?
Some reference to the attach rate of BluRay saoftware counting all PS3s as active players?
Vague allusions to anti-competitive practices without any substantial back-up?

Or something new?

 

[Chemo]

Go Blu!

I wonder which of the standard responses to this we'll see from the HD-DVD marketing group?

Will it be:

Standalone unit sales?
Relative software increases that ignore absolute numbers?
Promises of a change in fortune once cheaper (yet) players hit the market?
Some reference to the attach rate of BluRay saoftware counting all PS3s as active players?
Vague allusions to anti-competitive practices without any substantial back-up?

Or something new?

All of the above. If you ask HD DVD people, things are looking up for the format. XD I wonder what the excuses in this thread will be?

 

[captive]

Go Blu!

I wonder which of the standard responses to this we'll see from the HD-DVD marketing group?

Will it be:

Standalone unit sales?
Relative software increases that ignore absolute numbers?
Promises of a change in fortune once cheaper (yet) players hit the market?
Some reference to the attach rate of BluRay saoftware counting all PS3s as active players?
Vague allusions to anti-competitive practices without any substantial back-up?

Or something new?

You forgot, my new favorite one "we can coexist" before it was "we are beating blu-ray, and we are going to win" now its "well, two formats can coexist."

 

[Forsete]

And if all else fails: BBQ BBQ I hope they both fail! Holographic storage is the future!!

 

[Days like these...]

Were pet and crayon not invited to the circle jerk?

 

[OokieSpookie]

You forgot, my new favorite one "we can coexist" before it was "we are beating blu-ray, and we are going to win" now its "well, two formats can coexist."

The coexist is cracking me up lately, though the one that the couple of friends I have that are in the anti sony so anti bluray by proxy camp are now doing with the "br and hd are both non issues, downloadable vod is where it is at 360 has Peter Pan you know..."
:lol

Edit : These same people were swearing that hd would bury br and sony not even months ago with the "wait until the matrix hits" and then "300 superior edition" and now this.

 

[Chemo]

I think it's time for me to look back to the beginning of this thread for great comedy.

 

[djkimothy]

I think it's time for me to look back to the beginning of this thread for great comedy.

I did last week. I never realized how early I posted in this thread. :/

Here's something that'll put you into memory lane.

Day Week YTD SI
01/07 63.3/36.7 63.3/36.7 41.2/58.8
01/14 68.2/31.8 65.7/34.3 43.2/56.8
01/21 67.8/32.2 66.4/33.6 45.1/54.9
01/28 68.8/31.2 67.0/33.0 46.7/53.3
02/04 69.0/31.0 67.4/32.6 48.1/51.9
02/11 69.6/30.4 67.7/32.3 49.3/50.7
02/18 65.0/35.0 67.4/32.6 50.3/49.7
02/25 68.5/31.5 67.4/32.6 51.5/48.5
03/04 65.7/34.3 67.2/32.8 52.2/47.8
03/11 68.7/31.3 67.9/32.1 52.8/47.2
03/18 81.7/18.3 69.2/30.8 54.3/45.7
03/25 n/a 70.4/29.6 55.6/44.4
04/01 n/a 69.9/30.1 56.2/43.8
04/08 62.4/37.6 69.4/30.6 56.4/43.6
04/15 61/39 69/31 57/43
04/22 52/48 68/32 57/43
04/29 71/29 68/32 58/42
05/06 60/40 68/32 57/43
05/13 62/38 68/32 57/43
05/20 58/42 67/33 57/43
05/27 69/31 67/33 58/42
06/03 61/39 67/33 59/41
06/10 66/34 67/33 59/41
06/17 64/36 67/33 59/41
06/24 70/30 67/33 59/41
07/01 65/35 67/33 60/40
07/08 66/34 67/33 60/40
07/15 61/39 67/33 60/40
07/22 74/26 67/33 60/40
07/29 66/34 67/33 60/40
08/05 62/38 66/34 60/40

Formatting is crap, copy and paste isn't WYSIWYG. :/

 

[BotoxAgent]

You forgot, my new favorite one "we can coexist" before it was "we are beating blu-ray, and we are going to win" now its "well, two formats can coexist."

haha, so true.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

For the record, I was talking about the HD-DVD Marketing group, not the posters here. I'm sure whatever the official line is, it'll be repeated here as well, but I expect that. It's the official spin that I was making fun of.

Edit: djk, those bolds are the lowest it's gotten all year? Wow.

 

[djkimothy]

For the record, I was talking about the HD-DVD Marketing group, not the posters here. I'm sure whatever the official line is, it'll be repeated here as well, but I expect that. It's the official spin that I was making fun of.

Edit: djk, those bolds are the lowest it's gotten all year? Wow.

Yah, I kind of forget what releases were at those dates. Which is why I think HDDVD supporters are still giving this a chance. 81.7/18.3 being the highest. I guess casino royal?

 

[DarkJediKnight]

The week of April 22 was the closest it ever got. There was the 1st price drop for HD DVD players that week.

HD DVD releases the week before:

April 17, 2007
Feast (Weinstein) New
The Game (Universal)
The Jerk (Universal)
School for Scoundrels (Genius) New
Smokin' Aces (Universal) New

Blu-ray

April 17, 2007
The Dirty Dozen (Warner)
Enter the Dragon (Warner)

Both of these 30+ year old titles were already on HD DVD.

If HD DVD can't win Aug 28, this format war is OVER! Literally, as they would be destroyed in Q4. Heroes should win it for HD DVD. I will be ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED if Blu-ray even manages 52:48.

Aug 28 2007
HD DVD

Blades of Glory (Paramount)
Dawn of the Dead (2004) (Universal)
Heroes: Season One (Universal)
The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
Notting Hill (Universal)


Blu-ray

August 28, 2007
Blades of Glory (Paramount)

 

[jjasper]

Wild Hogs will probably be the #1 seller the week of the 28th.

 

[OokieSpookie]

If HD DVD can't win Aug 28, this format war is OVER! Literally, as they would be destroyed in Q4. Heroes should win it for HD DVD. I will be ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED if Blu-ray even manages 52:48.

Aug 28 2007
HD DVD

Blades of Glory (Paramount)
Dawn of the Dead (2004) (Universal)
Heroes: Season One (Universal)
The Hurricane (2000) (Universal)
Notting Hill (Universal)


Blu-ray

August 28, 2007
Blades of Glory (Paramount)

I am holding off picking up a few movies that I have been wanting to get until that week just for the entertainment value.

 

[djkimothy]

I am holding off picking up a few movies that I have been wanting to get until that week just for the entertainment value.

LOL.

I'll be in Florida at the end of August so I'll see if I can skew the numbers. :lol

 

[Chemo]

I am holding off picking up a few movies that I have been wanting to get until that week just for the entertainment value.

Hahahahahah.

 

[OokieSpookie]

LOL.

I'll be in Florida at the end of August so I'll see if I can skew the numbers. :lol

Come to Tampa and we can drink to the chaos.


For the record if Universal was smart they could easily pad the numbers by selling their day and date releases one week earlier on HD-DVD than they do on DVD.
Those that are on the fence might be induced to jump a bit, especially things like the Heroes release.
But ... they won't do that.

 

[Chemo]

Come to Tampa and we can drink to the chaos.

I'm in Tampa. Nasty town.

 

[djkimothy]

Come to Tampa and we can drink to the chaos.


For the record if Universal was smart they could easily pad the numbers by selling their day and date releases one week earlier on HD-DVD than they do on DVD.
Those that are on the fence might be induced to jump a bit, especially things like the Heroes release.
But ... they won't do that.

Actually, I'm going to Disney world with family and other families. I'm not planning this out but I apparently have no free time. I have to follow these day plans or everything will be out of sync. Seems more trouble than it's worth and gives me no free time to do what I want. But it's a free trip and it's for the kids.

 

[OokieSpookie]

I'm in Tampa. Nasty town.

I am technically in st pete, tampa has it's moments.

 

[captive]

For the record, I was talking about the HD-DVD Marketing group, not the posters here. I'm sure whatever the official line is, it'll be repeated here as well, but I expect that. It's the official spin that I was making fun of.

Edit: djk, those bolds are the lowest it's gotten all year? Wow.

And for the record so was i ;-)
Just last week there was some official HD DVD guy saying they can coexist.

 

[el Diablo]

Some hard numbers on the year for actual total numbers sold

New data released Tuesday by Home Media Research provides a first look at actual disc sales numbers for the first half of 2007, and it's more good news for Blu-ray.

The research arm of Home Media Magazine says total sales of Blu-ray discs for the first six month of 2007 totalled 1.6 million units, compared with 795,000 HD-DVD discs sold in the same time frame.

 

[Mode]

If HD DVD can't win Aug 28, this format war is OVER! Literally, as they would be destroyed in Q4. Heroes should win it for HD DVD. I will be ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED if Blu-ray even manages 52:48.

Cmon man, if HD DVD couldnt beat BD on July 31st (HD DVD had better releases that week), then there's no hope for Heroes making a dent. Universal is doing a terrible job marketing that set, I'd be surprised if people even knew there was an HD DVD version.

 

[captive]

Wasnt there a week a few weeks back where blu-ray had no releases what-so-ever not even neutral studios and still won?

 

[djkimothy]

Wasnt there a week a few weeks back where blu-ray had no releases what-so-ever not even neutral studios and still won?

Yah, but Blu-ray camp was against a glut of catalogue releases. The 28th has a more formidable release in that it includes Heroes season 1. Dunno if that makes a difference.

 

[Kleegamefan]

Yah, but Blu-ray camp was against a glut of catalogue releases. The 28th has a more formidable release in that it includes Heroes season 1. Dunno if that makes a difference.

Its the latest HD-DVD savior so of course it will not make a difference...

 

[The Main Event]

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65599

Well, on selected titles anyway... Warner Home Video have announced the US HD DVD re-release of several titles, all previously issued as HD DVD Combos, as regular single-sided HD DVD releases on 2nd October 2007. Beyond that there is absolutely no difference in terms of content, with everything previously found on the HD DVD sides present and accounted for, while retail prices are dropped in-line with their Blu-ray and non-combo counterparts (so $34.99 SRP on New Releases, and $28.99 SRP on Catalogue titles).

Titles priced at $34.99 SRP are: The Ant Bully, The Departed, The Fountain, Happy Feet, Lady in the Water, The Lake House, Letters from Iwo Jima, Rumor Has It and Superman Returns

Titles priced at $28.99 SRP are: Good Night, and Good Luck and Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

 

[Cosmic Bus]

Dear Warner, please discontinue all combos forever.

The Fountain is still going to be too expensive for me to spring for; I need another DVD Planet 20%-off sale.

 

[ManaByte]

My BRD Departed has rot, so I'll probably get the non-Combo HD-DVD to replace it.

 

[The Main Event]

My BRD Departed has rot, so I'll probably get the non-Combo HD-DVD to replace it.

Seriously? :lol

I'll probably get The Fountain as a non-combo.

 

[captive]

My BRD Departed has rot, so I'll probably get the non-Combo HD-DVD to replace it.

That sucks i have the departed from when it first came out, watched it just the other day.



Whaddya know a Sony blu-ray with disc art. *just opened remastered Fifth Element*
It was also shrink plastic wrapped, all discs should come this way, infinitely more easy to open.

 

[ManaByte]

I was really close to buying the combo Departed to replace my rotted copy, glad I didn't now since I'll just get the non-combo one.

 

[OokieSpookie]

I was really close to buying the combo Departed to replace my rotted copy, glad I didn't now since I'll just get the non-combo one.

I would contact them and make them replace it, whether you keep it or not.

 

[Zoe]

It was also shrink plastic wrapped, all discs should come this way, infinitely more easy to open.

But it's almost impossible to save the plastic then

Spoiler

go ahead and laugh

 

[acabado]

New data released Tuesday by Home Media Research provides a first look at actual disc sales numbers for the first half of 2007, and it's more good news for Blu-ray.

The research arm of Home Media Magazine says total sales of Blu-ray discs for the first six month of 2007 totalled 1.6 million units, compared with 795,000 HD-DVD discs sold in the same time frame.

While Blu-ray's 2-to-1 disc sales lead over HD DVD in 2007 has been known for months now, these figures are the first hard look at exactly how many discs have been sold by each format so far this year.

Of course, these numbers remain tiny compared to standard-def DVD sales. Both high-def disc formats combined have reportedly accounted for only 2.5% of overall disc sales so far this year.

Still, with overall DVD sales in a continued slump, high-def remains the one clear growth area for the home entertainment industry. As such, retailers are said to be making more room for both next-gen formats as we head into the crucial fourth quarter holiday shopping season.

What effect the increased shelf space, a packed release slate, and lower player prices will have on disc sales for the second half of the year remains to be seen, but needless to say, we'll be tracking developments as they happen. Stay tuned!

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...s:_Hard_Numbers_in_for_First_Half_of_2007/862

 

[captive]

But it's almost impossible to save the plastic then

Spoiler

go ahead and laugh

double u tee effe.


Acabado, thats been posted before.