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[AlteredBeast]

thanks. Good to know, I guess.

Some of those releases, the BD versions dominate the HD version...

Luckily, the 2 HD exclusives on the list are at least in the top 10. *shrugs*

BTW, when the **** is Shawshank coming out on HD-DVD? It was announced for 2006 and still nothing. I have read rumors on some other sites that it is because they are waiting til they can get the interactive stuff working on Blu-Ray before they drop them both on the Hi-Def formats...which would really suck if true for us HD-DVD supporters that would be more than willing to purchase it today if it were out on HD

 

[djkimothy]

thanks. Good to know, I guess.

Some of those releases, the BD versions dominate the HD version...

Luckily, the 2 HD exclusives on the list are at least in the top 10. *shrugs*

BTW, when the **** is Shawshank coming out on HD-DVD? It was announced for 2006 and still nothing. I have read rumors on some other sites that it is because they are waiting til they can get the interactive stuff working on Blu-Ray before they drop them both on the Hi-Def formats...which would really suck if true for us HD-DVD supporters that would be more than willing to purchase it today if it were out on HD

I don't know what the real reason is. Cause it's never stopped warner (if it's a warner release) from releasing it anyways with a gimped BD version, or not release a BD in the first place. *shrugs*

 

[AlteredBeast]

Unless he's one of the many, many people who feel like they wasted money when they buy into a format that croaks.

There are tons of reasons not to pick one up. I'm not saying there aren't any good reasons to pick it up, but pretending that everything is AOK with HD DVD and that no one in the world should regret their purchase even when the format dies is just wrong.

Malleymal -- if you don't mind either A) having an extra machine in your entertainment system for the next few years or B) re-purchasing content you bought on HD DVD on Blu-ray, then by all means, jump all over it. Buying in doesn't make any sense to me personally, but that doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to you. I don't mind waiting for the Universal exclusives (and the Warner exclusives) and I have a PS3, so player pricing and the like isn't an issue -- a cheap 360 add-on is probably not a bad idea for some people, though.

We've been through this...His HD discs wouldn't magically stopped working a la DIVX discs if the format died out. Why would he, then, rebuy movies on Blu-Ray?

The only real issue is, if, in 3 years from now, if the format has died, will you be satisfied with what you were able to purchase vs. your cost of investment?

 

[jjasper]

Apparently Disney also announced Jungle Book on BD for October 2nd (day and date with DVD re-release)

Which one? Is it the 1990 animated remake/rerelease?

 

[Oni Jazar]

This is real.

Weekly: 66:34
YTD: 66:34
SI 61:39

1. 300 BD 100.00
2. 300 HD 40.51
3. Disturbia BD 18.47
4. TMNT BD 16.07
5. Hot Fuzz 9.19
6. Disturbia HD 9.05
7. TMNT HD 7.52
8. The Bourne Identity 7.13
9. Planet Earth BD 6.60
10. Shooter BD 6.11
xx. Planet Earth HD 4.91
xx. Casino Royale BD 4.90
xx. Shooter HD 4.75

NB: SI numbers went up for Blu-ray by 1 point

Last weeks ratios:

Week: 62/38
YTD: 66/34
SI: 60/40

I guess the PS3 market didn't help Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within gain any big sales. :lol

 

[Chemo]

We've been through this...His HD discs wouldn't magically stopped working a la DIVX discs if the format died out. Why would he, then, rebuy movies on Blu-Ray?

Did you even read my A) and B)? No, no you did not.

 

[Jim]

Which one? Is it the 1990 animated remake/rerelease?

40th Anniversary Platinum Edition... so the original 1967 release.

 

[ChrisJames]

I asked in another thread, and this looks like a very strong blu ray thread, but I have an opportunity to get an HD-DVD player for the 360 rather cheap, and I wanted to know how that would look on my CRT -Component HDTV that goes up to 1080i .... thanks for your help

Just to answer your question (how it would look on your TV), it will look pretty damn good. Most people can't tell a huge difference between 1080p and 1080i and CRT's are usually better than LCD's when it comes to black level. So basically HD DVD's will look awesome on your TV, just as a Blu Ray would look awesome...

I have the 360 HD DVD add-on and I love it. I own over 30 HD DVD movies and haven't regretted my purchase (and I wouldn't even if the format died today). So from me it's highly recommended.

 

[AlteredBeast]

Did you even read my A) and B)? No, no you did not.

Actually, yes, yes I did. I only chose not to respond to A, as such a small box is not at all a factor for me. I think if someone is really worried about a small addon like that taking up too much space in their entertainment center, it would be amazing that they have a Hi-Def setup to begin with.

The only real problem with the HD-DVD dying out, if and when in fact it does, is if your initial investment was worth the amount of movies you were able to buy. If Blu-Ray wins out, HD-DVDs still work, so it would make no sense in 're-buying' as you said, on BD

 

[jjasper]

40th Anniversary Platinum Edition... so the original 1967 release.

As long as it isn't one of the stupid live action ones I am cool with it.

 

[heavy liquid]

The only real problem with the HD-DVD dying out, if and when in fact it does, is if your initial investment was worth the amount of movies you were able to buy. If Blu-Ray wins out, HD-DVDs still work, so it would make no sense in 're-buying' as you said, on BD

He can also always Netflix the movies if he's worried about investing too much in the format (like me), which might make it an easier decision, especially if he's getting a good deal on the add-on.

 

[djkimothy]

I guess the PS3 market didn't help Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within gain any big sales. :lol

LOL, no. Not even I got it. :lol

 

[Malleymal]

Thanks to Chemo, Heavy Liquid, Altered, and Chrisjames(fix your connection man)....

I am not really a buy DVD kind of guy, I am more of a renter and will probably Netflix the movies, so that isnt a worry of mine, its just that I want to make sure that the picture quality is gonna be a leap above what I am normally seeing on my DVD's now..

I see the way movies look at Best buys and all those stores after they set up the perfect home theater, but I dont have that set up yet... I just want to make sure that the jump is actually going to be significant Picture-wise, and not like what I see on my HBO-HD station through cable vision and all.... thanks again guys...

 

[ManaByte]

Face/Off and Jack Ryan Collection delayed a month
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Face/Off,_Jack_Ryan_Collection_See_Delays/869

Narnia, National Treasure, Finding Nemo, and Sleeping Beauty BRD in 2008
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/s...Sleeping_Beauty_Coming_to_Blu-ray_in_2008/870

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

Actually, yes, yes I did. I only chose not to respond to A, as such a small box is not at all a factor for me. I think if someone is really worried about a small addon like that taking up too much space in their entertainment center, it would be amazing that they have a Hi-Def setup to begin with.

The only real problem with the HD-DVD dying out, if and when in fact it does, is if your initial investment was worth the amount of movies you were able to buy. If Blu-Ray wins out, HD-DVDs still work, so it would make no sense in 're-buying' as you said, on BD

It's not just about having an extra box, but having some of your movies tethered to that box. Why would you want that?

 

[StanTheCaddy]

why would anyone need two machines??? samsung is dropping an awesome combo player, and lg has combo pc drives out now that will drop drastically in price over time. theres no need to rebuy the disc in the end since i still will have a disc that has 1080p picture and for the most part uncompressed audio ( the only way i will rebuy is if somehow the transfer was totally overhauled and uncompressed audio was added to a previously compressed audio track). when blu ray has every movie that hd-dvd has then you can argue that the format is irrelevent, until then dont worry about what other people purchase and try and justify to them whats right in wrong in your opinion, because "thats just like your opinion, man"

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

why would anyone need two machines??? samsung is dropping an awesome combo player, and lg has combo pc drives out now that will drop drastically in price over time. theres no need to rebuy the disc in the end since i still will have a disc that has 1080p picture and for the most part uncompressed audio ( the only way i will rebuy is if somehow the transfer was totally overhauled and uncompressed audio was added to a previously compressed audio track). when blu ray has every movie that hd-dvd has then you can argue that the format is irrelevent, until then dont worry about what other people purchase and try and justify to them whats right in wrong in your opinion, because "thats just like your opinion, man"

Just had a look at your setup over in the gaming forum. It's a very nice setup. But, not everyone, even in this thread, has that kind of cash for home theatre stuff

Why would we want to pick up combo drives when they add to the cost? Especially at this point in time, where it's more economically feasible to pick up a PS3 and X360 HD-DVD for the price of those combo items.

And jesus, seriously, use some capitals and some paragraphs. That stuff is nigh unreadable.

That said, Malleymal is probably going about it the best way possible right now (as far as HD-DVD is concerned). i.e. rental only.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

i would be surprised if combo drives were more than 500 into the next year. hell the lg multi blu just got a price drop of 200, although its gimped.

i buy movies because i like movies, not because i want to support a company who has interest in a format. Im not highly invested in either format right now because the future is uncertain in regards to high def mediums. But if someone who already has a 360 can get into the hi def era by spending 150 bucks thats not really a waste. hell thats barely more than 2 next gen games.

 

[Oni Jazar]

Are you going to buy a combo player for every TV in the house?

 

[captive]

Are you going to buy a combo player for every TV in the house?

Did you see his setup? He can probably afford to buy one for all his TVs and car(s) and some of us if he wanted to.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

are you going to buy a ps3 for every room in your house? i have two tv's a 60 inch LCD upstairs and the theater downstairs , ill get the samsung for the theater and ill have the ps3 and the hd-a20 upstairs,

you act as if its common for people to have more than 1 hdtv???

 

[StanTheCaddy]

Did you see his setup? He can probably afford to buy one for all his TVs and car(s) and some of us if he wanted to.

:lol

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

got a bunch of discs yesterday so I've been having some fun today. Got Final Fantasy, Monster House, Planet Earth, Superman, Superman II, Superman Returns, and TMNT (and I already have Casino Royale, Hellboy and the NIN disc). Watched TMNT first because I hadn't seen it (PS3 on my monitor @ 1080i) and it looked absolutely wonderful. I hadn't seen a movie yet that looked that good; going to check a few of the others out later today.

So far, the only movies I've re-bought are Final Fantasy, Hellboy, and the Superman movies.

I was thinking of getting the Xbox drive for my computer but the amount of work it was going to take to get it working (plus the money in getting a HDCP video card) kept me from it. Sure that 20% coupon at TRU would save me some money but buying a $200 video card isn't exactly saving me anything in the end.

Also:

DISNEY'S MAGICAL BLU-RAY TOUR SCHEDULE:

MALL : LOCATION : EVENT DATES
------------------------- -------------------- -----------------------
Westfield Topanga : Canoga Park, CA : Aug. 17 - 19
South Coast Plaza : Costa Mesa, CA : Aug. 24 - 26
Westfield North County : Escondido, CA : Aug. 31 - Sept. 2
Westfield San Francisco : San Francisco, CA : Sept. 7 - 9
Washington Square : Portland, OR : Sept. 14 - 16
Westfield South Center : Seattle, WA : Sept. 21 - 23
Mall of America : Bloomington, MN : Sept. 28 - 30
Orland Square : Orland Park, IL : Oct. 5 - 7
Westfield West County : St. Louis, MO : Oct 12 - 14
Tyson Corner Center : McLean, VA : Oct. 19 - 21
Roosevelt Field : Garden City, NY : Oct. 26 - 28
Burlington Mall : Burlington, MA : Nov. 9 - 11
King of Prussia : King of Prussia, PA : Nov. 16 -18
Circle Centre : Indianapolis, IN : Nov. 23 - 25
Lennox Square : Atlanta, GA : Nov. 30 - Dec. 2
The Galleria : Houston, TX : Dec. 7 - 9
Barton Creek Square : Austin, TX : Dec. 14 - 16
Chandler Fashion Center : Chandler, AZ : Dec. 21 - 23

I am so there. Can't wait to see Cars.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

are you going to buy a ps3 for every room in your house? i have two tv's a 60 inch LCD upstairs and the theater downstairs , ill get the samsung for the theater and ill have the ps3 and the hd-a20 upstairs,

you act as if its common for people to have more than 1 hdtv???

IN the future, definetly. And that's what most of us are buying now for; because we're assured that the format is going to continue into the future.

If they suddenly stopped producing BDs and HD-DVDs tomorrow, or even after this christmas... neither format would've been worth the time nor the effort invested by anyone thus far. Similarly, if either format was to end a year from now, that format wouldn't really have been worth our time or effort.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

we're assured that the format is going to continue into the future.
.

maybe you should work for fox :lol
no but seriously, theres no assurance of anything. if these discs dont start doing better i wouldnt be surprised if releases got delayed or just straight cancelled mor often. its not cost effective for companies to spend the time and money if only a handful of people will buy

 

[Oni Jazar]

are you going to buy a ps3 for every room in your house? i have two tv's a 60 inch LCD upstairs and the theater downstairs , ill get the samsung for the theater and ill have the ps3 and the hd-a20 upstairs,

you act as if its common for people to have more than 1 hdtv???

Within a couple of years I would expect a Blu-ray player to be cheap enough to buy for every TV in the house (and car, and portable player, etc) even if they are not HDTVs - just so that I can watch BD movies anywhere.

I would not want to waste $$ on combo players in the same fashion.

 

[djkimothy]

Did you see his setup? He can probably afford to buy one for all his TVs and car(s) and some of us if he wanted to.

I'm really intrigued. Can anyone link me to the post with the details? I need to see the kick ass system.

Can you post pictures Stan?

 

[StanTheCaddy]

Within a couple of years I would expect a Blu-ray player to be cheap enough to buy for every TV in the house (and car) even if they are not HDTVs - just so that I can watch the movie anywhere.

I would not want to waste $$ on combo players in the same fashion.

why would you buy a blu ray player for an SDTV. you could buy a 20 dollar dvd player and the dvd for less and it would play just fine in any player

 

[Oni Jazar]

why would you buy a blu ray player for an SDTV. you could buy a 20 dollar dvd player and the dvd for less and it would play just fine in any player

I would prefer to not have two copies of the same film. Your savings only work when using one movie as an example. What if you had 100 movies?

 

[StanTheCaddy]

youre already assuming the person doesnt have the dvd. most people buying hdtvs are people who have dvd players. J6P doesnt rebuy dvd's

 

[StanTheCaddy]

I'm really intrigued. Can anyone link me to the post with the details? I need to see the kick ass system.

Can you post pictures Stan?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136209&page=33

im already planning my next house and theater and ive only been in here for 6 months. its very addicting

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

maybe you should work for fox :lol
no but seriously, theres no assurance of anything. if these discs dont start doing better i wouldnt be surprised if releases got delayed or just straight cancelled mor often. its not cost effective for companies to spend the time and money if only a handful of people will buy

1. Backwards compatibility
2. continuing cost reductions

You think media companies move over to HD for short term gain?

 

[djkimothy]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=136209&page=33

im already planning my next house and theater and ive only been in here for 6 months. its very addicting

That is Kick ass. Especially the seating arrangments.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

no but as you can see with fox and many other studios who have been delaying releases indefinitely, they are waiting for both media and player sales to pick up, in addition to the blu ray group actually implementing their initial specs including security (mainly fox)

 

[captive]

Uhg stan, blu-ray isnt going anywhere for a while.

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

no but as you can see with fox and many other studios who have been delaying releases indefinitely, they are waiting for both media and player sales to pick up, in addition to the blu ray group actually implementing their initial specs including security (mainly fox)

Fox is using the same strategy as S-E is for Advent Children.

i.e. sell to a larger market, because their 1st day/week sales constitute a large percentage of overall sales.

Still, doesn't mean that they're not going to release the films.

 

[Oni Jazar]

youre already assuming the person doesnt have the dvd. most people buying hdtvs are people who have dvd players. J6P doesnt rebuy dvd's

If someone buys a new movie - in any format - it would be best if that movie worked on all players they own. Right now I buy HD movies because I enjoy the high quality picture and sound. In the future, when I've accumuated a library of HD titles, I'd like to buy additional budget BD players (They don't need Profile 1.1+) that are for when I want to enjoy those movies elsewhere, with less regard for AV quality. It would be cost prohibitive if I needed additional combo players or seperate standalones to achieve the same effect.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

Uhg stan, blu-ray isnt going anywhere for a while.

im not saying it is, but you cant gurantee that and you also cant gurantee that universal will go nuetral.

If someone buys a new movie - in any format - it would be best if that movie worked on all players they own. Right now I buy HD movies because I enjoy the high quality picture and sound. In the future, when I've accumuated a library of HD titles, I'd like to buy additional budget BD players (They don't need Profile 1.1+) that are for when I want to enjoy those movies elsewhere, with less regard for AV quality. It would be cost prohibitive if I needed additional combo players or seperate standalones.

you think combo players wont be cheap in the future either. no matter what disc they buy would work with those as well. also you assume movies authored for 1.1 will work on non 1.1 players, so maybe half your collection will work on one player and maybe not. its all a clusterfuck right now

 

[Oni Jazar]

you think combo players wont be cheap in the future either. no matter what disc they buy would work with those as well. also you assume movies authored for 1.1 will work on non 1.1 players, so maybe half your collection will work on one player and maybe not. its all a clusterfuck right now

Contrary to what HD DVD supports would have you believe, BD titles that use 1.1 will play on older players, there is no confusion on that. This has been stated by insiders many times.

Here is the latest confirmation:

Question Originally Posted by sharkshark:
"Talk, are you aware of any discussions that have surrounded the compatibility of 1.0-era players? The compatibility crunch that you (and I) fear with the introduction of new HD DVD players from other vendors is shared by fears that future 1.1/2.0 spec'd discs will all of a sudden pose problems for all players save PS3. "

Answer:
Absolutely. There is a strong commitment by all parties, including the studios, to ensure that the inclusion of bonus content which relies on 1.1/2.0 features in no way impacts the playability of everything else on the disc (obviously including the main feature) on 1.0 players.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11171498#post11171498

 

[Blader]

Walmart has the Spider-Man blu-ray boxset for $70

 

[StanTheCaddy]

having a strong commitment and absolutely working are two very different things. the new java features that will be implemented wont work on every player either. im just saying its way to early for anyone to say without a doubt what will happen next. on paper i love blu ray and would hands down argue that there shouldnt even be a war, but i also like the fact that hd-dvd has been inventive with some of the stuff they have been doing, and has been releasing some alot of non-blockbuster type titles that many movie fans like.

i mean 50 gigs per disc is amazing but dont give me an inefficent bloated codec with pcm and truHD just to fill the space and say this wouldnt be possible on HD-DVD. focus on making the movie watching experience better for the consumer and i think youll have a better acceptance rate. HD-DVD does some stuff that i question too, but i think theyve been a little more innovative in the immersion experience

 

[Crayon Shinchan]

having a strong commitment and absolutely working are two very different things. the new java features that will be implemented wont work on every player either. im just saying its way to early for anyone to say without a doubt what will happen next. on paper i love blu ray and would hands down argue that there shouldnt even be a war, but i also like the fact that hd-dvd has been inventive with some of the stuff they have been doing, and has been releasing some alot of non-blockbuster type titles that many movie fans like.

i mean 50 gigs per disc is amazing but dont give me an inefficent bloated codec with pcm and truHD just to fill the space and say this wouldnt be possible on HD-DVD. focus on making the movie watching experience better for the consumer and i think youll have a better acceptance rate. HD-DVD does some stuff that i question too, but i think theyve been a little more innovative in the immersion experience

As much as I admire iHD (and am looking forward to the BDJ equivalent), it's simply not a strong enough draw IMO for the trade off of having a segmented HD movie collection.

Yes, there are ways around it, including picking up combo/multiple player, but the most practical for most of us here is to wait until HD-DVD falls over; at that point, all the benefits of HD-DVD will have be incorporated into BD.

 

[cvxfreak]

Anyone have any clue when Apple computers will support Blu-Ray?

 

[djkimothy]

Anyone have any clue when Apple computers will support Blu-Ray?

My best guess would be next Mac Pro revision. I don't expect that till Macworld January, and that's a big IF.

However you can still buy 3rd party external drives for your burning use.

 

[ManaByte]

Anyone have any clue when Apple computers will support Blu-Ray?

The last update for the built-in DVD player software in OSX added support for both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. And yes, Apple is on the BRD Group; but they still added player support for both.

 

[ManaByte]

Disney: Jungle Book NOT coming to Blu-Ray
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Disney/Disney_Shoots_Down_Jungle_Book_Blu-ray_Reports/871

Disney says reports circulated this morning that 'Jungle Book' would be released on Blu-ray this coming October are erroneous.

While the studio is preparing a Platinum Release of 'Jungle Book' for standard-def DVD on October 2, the studio confirmed to us that no Blu-ray companion disc is planned.

It appears that the error emanated from a typo in an article published by Home Media Magazine previewing the holiday season's biggest titles. Within hours, the news appeared on various forums and web sites.

Such an early Blu-ray release for Disney classic would certainly be newsworthy, but alas, as we first reported late last night, the studio is currently targeting the fall of 2008 for its first Blu-ray Platinum release -- 'Sleeping Beauty.'

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

so lets say that I wanted to add a blu-ray player to my laptop. do they make such a thing? more importantly, would it matter since the video card is, more than likely, not HDCP compliant?

 

[djkimothy]

so lets say that I wanted to add a blu-ray player to my laptop. do they make such a thing? more importantly, would it matter since the video card is, more than likely, not HDCP compliant?

I don't think you have play back abilities. Just burning. Though I could be wrong.

 

[StanTheCaddy]

IIRC theres already an external BR drive for macs. the whole integrating these drives into pc's is still up in the air right now due to both graphical constraints as well as hdcp compliant monitors. there has just been a plethora of problems trying to get these drives into prebuilt systems as its not necessarily plug and play. it can be done, but it takes some work

im this close to pulling the trigger on a new media center pc from HP with the built in combo br read/write/hddvd combo drive. it would be under 2k and would be a fully functional media center along with a a couple TB of space and a beefy graphics card.

If apple put something similar to media center/built in pvr/ blu ray drive and upped themac mini price to a grand configured with that drive theyd have a goldmine on their hands. i know there are external tuners, but i want an all in one solution

 

[StanTheCaddy]

so lets say that I wanted to add a blu-ray player to my laptop. do they make such a thing? more importantly, would it matter since the video card is, more than likely, not HDCP compliant?

this is where its sketchy. laptops are a whole different beast because your not running an external cable to the monitor.