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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
kaching said:
Wow. Fuck you.
Did either of you actually read my post?
I explicitly say: I still think that HD media is pretty much the only media that's worth paying for nowadays.
It's simply a deadline declaration of dual format ownership. It's more an end to my hyperbole and fanaticsm on the subject matter and a move to a more observational role. It's pretty plain to me that all our heated opinions mean jack shit, so why not just ride it out.
I already have my conditions set, so it's not like there's much said that's going to change my mind, given my state of pragmatism
Even if HD-DVD suddenly won tomorrow, I would only pick up the format when I picked up my projector. Makes sense right? I mean, it's not like I get a huge benefit otherwise.
For all my bluster, on the subject matter, and for all my love of a unified format... if it's going to cause this much stress and make me question whether HD is worth it or not, then it's not worth keeping up a pretense as if it's the sole driving issue behind adoption for me. It's not.
David Carnoy said:Mitsubishi planning 3D Blu-ray player
Along with a few other tech journalists, we spent a couple of hours over at the Westchester Country Club, which is gearing up for The Barclays PGA Tour event. What the hell were we doing there? Well, as part of a marketing deal with the PGA Tour, Mitsubishi is the "official large outdoor video display provider" of the Tour and the PR team wanted us to see some of these displays in action along with the Tour's ShotLink technology, which tracks players' shots almost down to the centimeter (the info is displayed on those giant Mitsubishi scoreboards). That's all sort of interesting if you're a golf fan, but things got a little sexier when Mitsubishi reps took us into a hospitality suite, handed us each a pair of fancy 3D glasses (a little smaller than the ones shown in the photo), and showed us a demo of some new 3D-imaging technology they were working on.
The demo was run from a massive Dell desktop and output onto a large DLP set. In an effort to inject new life into the fading rear-projection category, the company's pitch was that the 3D technology worked with existing DLP TVs and projectors (due to DLP's native 120Hz refresh rate, which allows you to split it into 60/60 for 3D) but not with LCD and plasma displays.
Most of us were pretty impressed by the demo, which included clips from movies, commercials, and sporting events. There was real depth to the 3D and you got that whole feeling of things poking out at you from the screen. All the demo material had been shot in 3D, but the kicker to the whole presentation was that Mitsubishi apparently has a Blu-ray player in its labs that can convert existing 2D movies into 3D on the fly. Better yet, according to company reps, it may be available early next year.
We are pretty skeptical it's going to show up anytime soon and have doubts that converted 2D content is going to look all that great in 3D. But the 3D movement is gathering more momentum as other companies like Samsung and Philips continue working on ways to bring 3D into the home. Ideally, you wouldn't have to wear glasses (Philips is trying to integrate 3D right into the display), but we have a feeling you're only going to get a true Imax-like 3D experience with some eyewear.
While Mitsubishi wasn't ready to get into pricing, one would expect to pay a premium a special-featured Blu-ray player. That said, Mitsubishi hinted that it was in discussions with one game console manufacturer to integrate the 3D technology into the system. The Wii's not capable of such feats and Microsoft's in the HD DVD camp, so one would have to assume it's Sony and the PS3.
We know. It's all rampant conjecture. But eventually, HD and 2D just aren't going to cut it. We may be a few years away from that, but there's chatter out there. Anybody out there itching for 3D at home?
Sounds interesting, but it's probably going to end up as vaporware.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Killthee said:
I can't even imagine how you'd extract decent 3D from 2D visuals.
But is it more significant that they're making 1080p headsets? ... or are they not 1080p at all? :/
Would be one awesome firmware update for the PS3 though... hell, even if it's a pay for codec type of deal it could be interesting.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
kaching said:
Despite his self confessed fanaticism he's toned it down alot and he actually makes some decent arguements.
Anyway he's on the verge of taking the red pill.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Days like these... said:
Not quite. The red pill would mean I become some obsessed HD-DVD nutter.
The only pill I'd be swallowing is the one called 'Full HD'.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
You ok pet? We had notified the police in jakarta to be on suicide watch. LOL and wtf did you suddenly turn into isamu?
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Looking at those Fox BDs... made me realise just how much of an advantage importing a good combo player would be.
It means I would be able to play Region A BDs as well! Damn you Fox! Jerk hold out studio for region encoding and high prices.
Of course, shit's gonna get confusing when I have problems playing region B movies on that player, and region A movies on my PS3. ;o
It means I would be able to play Region A BDs as well! Damn you Fox! Jerk hold out studio for region encoding and high prices.
Of course, shit's gonna get confusing when I have problems playing region B movies on that player, and region A movies on my PS3. ;o
Days like these... said:
yeah I'm ok, all the polices here are busy with the traffic jams :lol ......geez I've never seen so many motorcycles in my life. And when it rained hard (like in the past 2 days) they all clogged up the streets under the bridges or overpasses :lol
it's an experience here
BTW, WTF is Isamu?
Tech exists and works that extracts 3d models from 2d images, the results obtained are kinda akin to getting heightmap out of the image, so if you rotate the model enough the missing data becomes obvious. But for your standard stereoscopic visuals you only need that tiny degree of offset to each image, so it could certainly work.Crayon Shinchan said:
How viable this is in realtime and with arbitrary video inputs I have no idea though.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Fafalada said:
Now that you mention it, I definetly remember Toshiba (ironic isn't it) showing this kind of tech off with help of the CELL processor.
It was the face dealio.
But still... accurate height maps from a 2D image... I find it difficult to comprehend given the wild variety of circumstances that exist in movie images. For controlled images, it's certainly not as much of a reach...
Well this can't be good:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warners_High-Def_Disc_Guru_Exits_Post/893
Or is it?
"Warner Home Video's Steve Nickerson is stepping down from his post as Senior VP of Worldwide High-Definition. Steve's been with Warner for a long time. He came to the studio from Toshiba, where he was a big part of the launch of the DVD format back in the day. As such, he was also a strong backer of HD-DVD."
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Warner/Warners_High-Def_Disc_Guru_Exits_Post/893
Or is it?
"Warner Home Video's Steve Nickerson is stepping down from his post as Senior VP of Worldwide High-Definition. Steve's been with Warner for a long time. He came to the studio from Toshiba, where he was a big part of the launch of the DVD format back in the day. As such, he was also a strong backer of HD-DVD."
Stan The Caddy
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Ryu1999 said:
Considering he came from Toshiba I think maybe he was the one favoring HD DVD? Only time will tell, very weird timing before they take the red pill though.
Days like these...
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chubigans said:
I'm starting to believe...
This coinicides perfectly with the new "take the red pill" marketing.
Err, that guy stepping down sounds like a bad thing for HD DVD to me. If he's such a big HD DVD supporter, maybe he was the only thing keeping them dual-format when their Blu-ray sales dwarf their HD DVD sales.
I don't see any indication that this is Warner going HD DVD exclusive, particularly not right right before they'll be able to accomplish IME on Blu-ray.
I don't see any indication that this is Warner going HD DVD exclusive, particularly not right right before they'll be able to accomplish IME on Blu-ray.
Cold-Steel
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Warner = Blu-ray Exclusive.
Please let it be true please let it be true
If it makes WB go Blu-ray exclusive, then it's A GOOD FELLING... and fits with the whole "Paramount going HD-DVD exclusive is a counter attack on something big that was going to be announced friday" rumor that was running earlier this week...StoOgE said:
Do they insinuate HD-DVD and Blu-ray as well? If not, then why would they be able to "save" the DVD purchases on their system but not the high definition sales? It's weird...
It's this type of belligerence that you've afflicted on multiple people in this thread, mostly unwarranted, combined with the excessive hand-wringing for someone who should know better as an early adopter that just wouldn't leave me the least bit sad to see you go.Crayon Shinchan said:
Ignatz Mouse
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I actually don't care if WB goes Blu-only, except in secondary effects:
1) Getting those WB HD-DVD-olny releases over to Blu (c'mon, Batman!)
2) Putting pressure on the market to reverse Paramount/Uni's stance.
I don't have any real desire to deprive current HD-DVD owners of movies. I just want them all Blu.
1) Getting those WB HD-DVD-olny releases over to Blu (c'mon, Batman!)
2) Putting pressure on the market to reverse Paramount/Uni's stance.
I don't have any real desire to deprive current HD-DVD owners of movies. I just want them all Blu.
Ignatz Mouse said:
I really doubt there is anything that could be done to change Paramount/Universal's stance at this point. If Paramount has a contract through 2008 I would be willing to bet that Universal has something similar. I would also assume that Disney and Fox are under a similar contract. We are stuck in a stalemate in that regard.
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