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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Rabid Wolverine

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StoOgE said:
danger.

when using HDMI audio, a high number of these Onkyo recievers may wierd buzzing/whiney noises. Its not just the new models, Onkyo has done this for two model years now.
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Ive read that.

So far 705 owners (at least here in Oz on my regular AV Forum) are not reporting those types of problems. Specially the popping noises.

Ill make sure the seller knows if these occur im returning it post haste!
 
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maynerd

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Harry Potter gift set available for preorder on the WB website. With 25% off coupon...

$83.21 delivered (if you are in a non-taxable area for WB)

That's pretty hot.
 
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StoOgE

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maynerd said:
Harry Potter gift set available for preorder on the WB website. With 25% off coupon...

$83.21 delivered (if you are in a non-taxable area for WB)

That's pretty hot.
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thats actually not horrible.
 
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distantmantra

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Eh, that's a good price, but I really want the five movies in separate cases. Plus, splitting them up makes them good gift ideas for people who don't know what to get me.
 
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TAJ

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Oni Jazar said:
Spiderman TrueHD track on looks in the range for a 16 bit track (1.5 / 2ish Mbps)
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Ah, that reminds me of how viciously I was attacked when I gave those numbers here many moons ago, and I even gave a higher peak bandwidth number. (2.3)
 
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gkryhewy

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maynerd said:
Harry Potter gift set available for preorder on the WB website. With 25% off coupon...

$83.21 delivered (if you are in a non-taxable area for WB)

That's pretty hot.
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Amazon has listed these sets, and a few of the movies, for 104.95 (HD-DVD link here) and 19.95, respectively. The WB price looks solid, although they charge me tax (PA).

Anyone know if they charge your CC early for pre-orders, and if it's possible/easy to cancel an order later?

EDIT: Looks like the release dates for both this and blade runner will take them out of the deepdiscount.com 20% off sale window, so I ordered both (HD-DVD) - this is likely the best price that will be available. Also threw in 2001. Total was about 129 with tax; not bad! Can't wait for HP - I've already ebayed my regular DVD versions of all of these movies, actually.
 
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Matrix

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Will be ordering the potter hd-dvd gift set from amazon.com as soon as the 10% off starts to apply.It's not working right now.

Thanks for the link.
 
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Crayon Shinchan

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maynerd said:
How about some pics and/or impressions of video/audio quality?
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Only popped in number 2 for 15 minutes. No problems with PQ as far as I can tell. I'm no audiophile, so I can't give impressions on audio quality. Grainy, as with all Blu-ray releases.

Seamless branching is nice.... it really is seamless. Like having 2 copies of the film on one disc... but not!

Looking forward to it for LotR.

Throw in that 300 style movie editing stuff, and it would be pure gold!
 
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Witchfinder General

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Crayon Shinchan said:
Only popped in number 2 for 15 minutes. No problems with PQ as far as I can tell. I'm no audiophile, so I can't give impressions on audio quality. Grainy, as with all Blu-ray releases.

Seamless branching is nice.... it really is seamless. Like having 2 copies of the film on one disc... but not!

Looking forward to it for LotR.

Throw in that 300 style movie editing stuff, and it would be pure gold!
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Wait, what?
 
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Christoff Yurievich

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gkrykewy said:
Amazon has listed these sets, and a few of the movies, for 104.95 (HD-DVD link here) and 19.95, respectively. The WB price looks solid, although they charge me tax (PA).

Anyone know if they charge your CC early for pre-orders, and if it's possible/easy to cancel an order later?

EDIT: Looks like the release dates for both this and blade runner will take them out of the deepdiscount.com 20% off sale window, so I ordered both (HD-DVD) - this is likely the best price that will be available. Also threw in 2001. Total was about 129 with tax; not bad! Can't wait for HP - I've already ebayed my regular DVD versions of all of these movies, actually.
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I can tell you they only charge you what they ship since I'm still waiting on my Blade Runner.

Speaking of the WB store, where did you order those movies from?
 
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Christoff Yurievich

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snorggy said:
after watching 3:10 to yuma i'm feeling in the mood for a good western.. there any good ones out on blu-ray?
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speaking of, I see that Tombstone is distributed by Hollywood Pictures & Cinergi Pictures. does this mean that Disney still owns the rights to the movie? Because I would love to se ethis on Blu-Ray.
 
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Katana_Strikes

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Anyone know if Season 6 of 24 has been announced for Blu-ray? Or will I have to buy it on DVD? :(

I know the first one supposed to be coming out but it would have been great if they'd released Season 6 now too.
 
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Doctor_No

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snorggy said:
after watching 3:10 to yuma i'm feeling in the mood for a good western.. there any good ones out on blu-ray?
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The Searchers is a classic (available on both formats). It was ranked 12th place in the 2007 American Film Institute "100 Greatest American Films" list. My personal favorite John Ford movie.

The "Wild Bunch" is coming out next week (also on both formats). I must if you like Peckinpah.
 
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gkryhewy

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distantmantra

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Early reviews of Black Book on Blu-ray are out, and apparently it has a gorgeous transfer. Can't wait for my copy to get here! I loves me some Verhoeven pulpy goodness!
 
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Witchfinder General

punched Wheelchair Mike
Crayon Shinchan said:
heavy amount of film grain. Like most other Blu-ray releases.
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You mean the film grain prevelant in the movie itself? Are you saying the same titles don't have that on HD-DVD? If so, then this falls under the whole "accuracy towards the original film print/how the director wanted it" arguement.
 
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Crayon Shinchan

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Witchfinder General said:
You mean the film grain prevelant in the movie itself? Are you saying the same titles don't have that on HD-DVD? If so, then this falls under the whole "accuracy towards the original film print/how the director wanted it" arguement.
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Not so much that HD-DVD doesn't have it, but that it's not quite as 'heavy'.

But isn't it a well known (at least on this board) difference between the two formats? Blu-ray tends to feature sharper but grainier images, while HD-DVD has less grainy but somewhat softer images.
 
The Main Event

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http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6479670

SAN FRANCISCO -- In a major step toward bringing an end to the much-buzzed-about format war that has pitted HD-DVD technology enthusiasts against the backers of Blu-ray technology, Intel Corp.'s CEO Paul Otellini today said during the Intel Developer Forum opening keynote that the company's fifth-generation Centrino mobile platform codenamed Montevina will have native support for both HD DVD and Blu-ray media when it launches next year.

Montevina, which is slated to make its debut in Q2 2008, will support Intel's 45-nm Penryn Core 2 processors, which are on track for a November 12 release. The fourth generation of Intel's Core 2 Centrino line, codenamed Santa Rosa, was launched in May of this year; Otellini said today that Intel has since shipped some 10 million Santa Rosa-based platforms.

Blu-ray has been supported by heavyweights like Sony Corp. and Philips Electronics, while Toshiba Corp. has been the major proponent for HD-DVD. Hollywood studios have taken sides, as well, with Lions Gate, Sony Pictures, and Fox Studios championing Blu-ray, and Universal Studios championing HD DVD.

However, as the industry's leading microchip maker, Intel's support of both HD DVD and Blu-ray throws a significant amount of credence behind the movement to bring some sort of a compromise to the two technologies, which have seemed destined to serve as bitter rivals in a market-dividing war.

Meanwhile, Intel is not the only company opting for neutrality in HD DVD and Blu-ray compatibility. Within the past year LG Electronics launched the Super Multi Blue Player, a high-definition DVD player capable of playing both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats; ST Microelectronics held demonstrations of its Sti7200 high-definition decoder chip with capabilities for both HD DVD and Blu-ray; and Broadcom Corp. debuted a complete system-on-a-chip (SoC) solution, the BCM7440, that combines Blu-ray and HD DVD, into an integrated, single-chip design.

Further, some industry watchers will likely be gratified by Intel's format-straddling stance, as analysts have predicted that universal players will eventually win out in the coming months as next-generation DVD technology evolves.
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Bearillusion

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Ok what's the general feeling here about which format will eventually win out? I own a PS3 and a month or so ago it seemed only a matter of time before Bluray was declared the 'winner'. Now with the Paramount deal it appears that the momentum, if it can be called that, is with HD DVD.
 
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RaidenZR

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I think the general feeling is it's a total stalemate in terms of mindshare. On paper, Blu-Ray has the numbers and names... but that doesn't necessarily indicate an eventual conclusion to this thing.
 
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ChrisJames

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Katana_Strikes said:
Anyone know if Season 6 of 24 has been announced for Blu-ray? Or will I have to buy it on DVD? :(

I know the first one supposed to be coming out but it would have been great if they'd released Season 6 now too.
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Wait, you actually want to buy season 6? God, last season was such a clusterfuck.

Now the previous five seasons I would be extremely interested in (if I owned a Blu-Ray player).
 
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Raistlin

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Bearillusion said:
Ok what's the general feeling here about which format will eventually win out? I own a PS3 and a month or so ago it seemed only a matter of time before Bluray was declared the 'winner'. Now with the Paramount deal it appears that the momentum, if it can be called that, is with HD DVD.
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At this point ... BD seems the more likely candidate if only one (or any) survives.


However, some analysts are beginning to predict they may both survive. I personally would have no issue with that ... assuming that means they are both mainstream. If they are relegated to niche products because of this however (which many analysts have also predicted), I don't want that ... as obviously it will negatively effect the amount of content released.
 
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Raistlin

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Kleegamefan said:
Some guy over at AVS just bought a Sammy BDP 1400 and got it to play the dts HD Master Audio track from Xmen 3 on Blu Ray output to an Onkyo 805 via HDMI:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=910218


This is all via a firmware upgrade, BTW, so hopefully a dts HD MA upgrade will also come soon for the PS3
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Noice!!!


I'm still curious as to how Toshiba's players will supposedly to this however. If you chose bitstream, will it simply deactivate the selection for extras that need real-time mixing? That's the only solution that seems to make sense from a technical standpoint.



(and I've been arguing that they should do this since their first HDMI 1.3 player was announced).
 
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Andy787

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The Main Event said:
http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=article&articleid=CA6479670
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Wait, I thought Intel came out in a big way with Microsoft, claiming to be backing HD-DVD?

So I take it Intel is going neutral and you're already trying to downplay it as it happens?

Christ, why is this fucking "war" more about PR and "mindshare" than fucking movies? You PR-regurgitating, apologist format zealots are just as disgusting as the people paid to turn all of this shit into PR bullshit.
 
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Andy787 said:
Christ, why is this fucking "war" more about PR and "mindshare" than fucking movies? You PR-regurgitating, apologist format zealots are just as disgusting as the people paid to turn all of this shit into PR bullshit.
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Calm down before you have aneuysm or something. Did you not read the article? Intel's CEO today at a developer's conference said that their 5th gen mobile centrino platform would support both formats. I fail to see any pr regurgitating/spinning apologist format zealotry on Mana's part by simply linking to the article.

You know what disgusts me? The zealotry of those who come in here feigning some kind of moral superiority while at the same time bashing others.
 
Forsete

Forsete

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Gots me some MOVIES.

2 from Axelmusic, 2 from HD Moive Source, aka. all imported

filmer.jpg
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Andy787 said:
Wait, I thought Intel came out in a big way with Microsoft, claiming to be backing HD-DVD?

So I take it Intel is going neutral and you're already trying to downplay it as it happens?

Christ, why is this fucking "war" more about PR and "mindshare" than fucking movies? You PR-regurgitating, apologist format zealots are just as disgusting as the people paid to turn all of this shit into PR bullshit.
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I love how you both spin news and complain about spinning news in the same post. great.
 
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Poona

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Matrix said:
whats the deal on amazon.com with Troy Directors Cut and Smallville Season 6 on both blu-ray and Hd-dvd,both say "usually ships in 2-5 weeks"
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Smallville season 6 is in stock at Amazon on HD DVD but the Blu-ray is listed as shipping in 2-5 weeks for whatever reason.
 
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Oni Jazar

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Anchor Bay came in and KICKED ASS on their BD transfers.

Dawn of the Dead
http://www.dvdauthority.com/reviews.asp?reviewID=5319


...this new transfer is a revelation... you wouldn't know this was made in 1978 based on this presentation. The image is almost pristine here, like brand new and the visuals are so crisp, so sharp, you might not believe your eyes... All in all, a dynamic transfer that will fans over the moon.
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Day of the Dead
http://www.dvdauthority.com/reviews.asp?reviewID=5320


I am beyond impressed by this transfer, I knew it would look great, but this is one tremendous presentation. The print used looks brand new, free from age related defects and as far as detail, prepare to be impressed. All of the scenes look clearer and crisper than ever before, but some look incredible, with such subtle details visible, I was distracted from the movie to bask in this transfer.
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ChrisJames

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Crayon Shinchan said:
Not so much that HD-DVD doesn't have it, but that it's not quite as 'heavy'.

But isn't it a well known (at least on this board) difference between the two formats? Blu-ray tends to feature sharper but grainier images, while HD-DVD has less grainy but somewhat softer images.
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...I have never heard that. Can anyone else confirm or deny if that's the general consensus?
 
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Flo_Evans

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DarkJediKnight said:
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4439/fmjdeluxezy0.jpg

Woah cool! This sucker is newly mastered and comes with True HD.
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Damn that might be the first bluray I buy that I already have on DVD :D

ChrisJames said:
...I have never heard that. Can anyone else confirm or deny if that's the general consensus?
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I thought the general consensus is that they are pretty much identical...
 
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