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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Solo

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_leech_ said:
Any Clockwork Orange reviews?
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DVD Beaver recommendeds the 2 disc DVD set over either the HD or BRD editions, citing an HD transfer that is only marginally better than the DVD one, and a lower price point, as their reasons. They also say that if you must get a HD version, to go with the BRD.
 
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duckroll

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Gunota said:
CCA & F91 Blu-ray

From this month's Gundam Ace, Bandai Visual is set to release both movies on Blu-ray format. Price is 7800 yen and the release date is Feb 22, 2008.
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OH SWEET JESUS COME TO ME! :D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
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distantmantra

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duckroll said:
OH SWEET JESUS COME TO ME! :D~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God Oh God

I will pay any price for these.

edit: I hope this leads to Gundam 00 getting released on Blu-ray.
 
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jjasper

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http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_outsells_hd_dvd_nearly_2_1_through_september_research_shows/
Blu-ray Outsells HD DVD Nearly 2-1 Through September, Research Shows
By Jason Unger

10.24.2007 — Blu-ray discs have outsold HD DVD titles by nearly 2-to-1 through September of this year, according to new statistics from Home Media Research (via Reuters).

From January 1 to September 30, 2.6 million Blu-ray discs were sold, compared to 1.4 million HD DVD titles.

Home Media Research also estimates that, since the formats launched in the spring of 2006, Blu-ray discs have outsold HD DVD titles by an estimated 3.01 million to 1.97 million.

But despite the statistics pointing in Blu-ray’s favor, some analysts are saying that it’s not over for HD DVD.

Tom Adams, president of Adams Media Research, also said the 18-month period of exclusivity for HD-DVDs by Paramount and DreamWorks should strengthen HD-DVD’s hand this quarter.

“This definitely smooths out the edge that Blu-ray had in exclusive titles and it very much strengthens HD-DVD’s hand in the fourth quarter,” he said, but still expects Blu-ray will lead for the year overall.
The exclusive deal with Paramount and DreamWorks has helped the HD DVD camp sell more than 190,000 copies of newly-released Transformers in its first week, putting it “on track” to become the best-selling HD DVD title of all time.

Reports have recently surfaced that Microsoft and Toshiba are working together to put an HD DVD drive into the Xbox 360, potentially putting it on the same level as Sony’s PlayStation 3.

Sony recently dropped the price of the PlayStation 3, making the most affordable Blu-ray player even cheaper at $399.
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Nothing we didn't already know but another mention of the HD DVD 360. Given MS's history with these types of things I am about 99% sure it is going to happen.
 
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Chiggs

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I picked up Bram Stoker's Dracula last night. Ugh...the transfer really isn't good, and despite all the extras, I feel let down.

On a positive note, some of the deleted scenes are so bad they're funny. One scene in particular, Dracula on the Demeter, made me howl. It's awful.
 
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SUPREME1

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OokieSpookie said:
Toshiba has so far officially denied it ( for the most part )
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..after officially starting the rumor..



Off-topic:

I'm in a little bit of a pinch here..

I've wanted to upgrade to an Elite360 for a while now.. and now it looks like this HD DVD rumor might have some legs.

Do I wait to see if it ever hits, or jump on the current Elite? If I were to buy now, it'd be the last one I would get.. I wouldn't put anymore money into upgrading.

Also, and most importantly.. Would a future version of the Elite have an HD DVD drive?

If so, that would be the perfect gaming machine.. and it owuld be GAME OVER.


HD DVD ELITE 360 = APOCALYPSE
 
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xS1TH L0RDx

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the elite is a waste of money imo. i have about 8 tv shows on my 20 gig hdd, all the dlc for oblivion, 33 arcade games, and 9 normal game saves (including dlc for some of them like gears) the gh3 demo downloaded, and still have about 6 gigs of space left.

and now that EVERY 360 has hdmi output, there's no need for an elite.

just trying to help you save a few bucks.
 
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OokieSpookie

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ImperialConquest said:
..after officially starting the rumor..



Off-topic:

I'm in a little bit of a pinch here..

I've wanted to upgrade to an Elite360 for a while now.. and now it looks like this HD DVD rumor might have some legs.

Do I wait to see if it ever hits, or jump on the current Elite? If I were to buy now, it'd be the last one I would get.. I wouldn't put anymore money into upgrading.

Also, and most importantly.. Would a future version of the Elite have an HD DVD drive?

If so, that would be the perfect gaming machine.. and it owuld be GAME OVER.


HD DVD ELITE 360 = APOCALYPSE
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IF it were true, you would still be looking at last quarter 2008 by their own description at the soonest ( and also due to the fact that if they introduce a 360 with hd at anywhere near the original PS3 price they will be take a huge PR hit after talking shit )

If you want one bad enough, get an elite plus the add on when they have the elite +2 game combo next month and get the add on then
 
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OokieSpookie

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xS1TH L0RDx said:
the elite is a waste of money imo. i have about 8 tv shows on my 20 gig hdd, all the dlc for oblivion, 33 arcade games, and 9 normal game saves (including dlc for some of them like gears) the gh3 demo downloaded, and still have about 6 gigs of space left.

and now that EVERY 360 has hdmi output, there's no need for an elite.

just trying to help you save a few bucks.
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My main reasons for the elite were :
A) the add on for optical audio that comes with the elite. They charge you I believe it is $50 for the adapter otherwise ( unless they call come with it now which I do not honestly know )
B) The 120 gb hd by itself is like $170
C) It just looks better
 
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Gary Whitta

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OokieSpookie said:
My main reasons for the elite were :
A) the add on for optical audio that comes with the elite. They charge you I believe it is $50 for the adapter otherwise ( unless they call come with it now which I do not honestly know
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Huh? The HD AV cables for all 360s have come with a built-in optical audio output since launch.
 
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captive

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djkimothy said:
Wow, the onslaught starts next week.
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...wow no joke. Imagine if Paramount hadnt gone exclusive.

My wallet is crying in advance, so many movies i want.
 
Zoe

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Gary Whitta said:
Huh? The HD AV cables for all 360s have come with a built-in optical audio output since launch.
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If you want to use HDMI + Optical, you need the adapter that comes with the Elite. You can't fit both the normal HD adapter and the HDMI cable at the same time.
 
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VanMardigan

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I bought an HDMI 20 gig and it didn't come with the adapter, which is stupid. I had to buy it from Amazon.

If you download lots of shows (ESPECIALLY in HD), I say go with the Elite. Otherwise, the pro should do. And definitely don't sit around waiting for the HD DVD version of the 360 (even though I believe it's going to happen).
 
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Bebpo

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Oh shit, I'm all over CCA. 0091...not so much at that price.

Since they're Bandai, I wonder if that means US versions soon after at around the same price (but then cheaper on Amazon). Would be willing to wait on CCA to get English subs and cheaper price.
 
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
Just got Transformers. Happy that it's here, pissed that it took so long and that I have an hour of work left.

Also got Knocked Up. Good weekend ahead for me, and I have a feeling it's going to get even better by Friday. :D


Other than the first 20 minutes of Transformers at the movies, I haven't seen either of these films.
 
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OokieSpookie

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VanMardigan said:
Just got Transformers. Happy that it's here, pissed that it took so long and that I have an hour of work left.

Also got Knocked Up. Good weekend ahead for me, and I have a feeling it's going to get even better by Friday. :D


Other than the first 20 minutes of Transformers at the movies, I haven't seen either of these films.
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My personal opinion on the Transformers movie is skip to all of the parts with the girl, then all of the parts that Prime speaks, and then when Megatron scolds Starscream and then take it out and put in Transformers- The Movie ( animated )
 
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VanMardigan

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Yeah frickin right. I really liked what I saw at the theaters before I had to leave. I'm REALLY looking forward to this movie, and so if my wife.

I liked the animated movie as well.
 
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GuessWho

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OokieSpookie said:
My personal opinion on the Transformers movie is skip to all of the parts with the girl, then all of the parts that Prime speaks, and then when Megatron scolds Starscream and then take it out and put in Transformers- The Movie ( animated )
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...is wrong
 
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OokieSpookie

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GuessWho said:
...is wrong
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That is the funny thing about opinions, and that is that they can not be wrong.
They can be different and varied, they can not match someone else's but for an opinion to be wrong is actually completely impossible.
 
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newsguy

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Zoe said:
If you want to use HDMI + Optical, you need the adapter that comes with the Elite. You can't fit both the normal HD adapter and the HDMI cable at the same time.
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there's a thread on how to rig the cables in the gaming section. All you need to do is pop off the plastic piece and you can fit an HDMI cable fine.
 
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Eel O'Brian

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I think I'm gonna pull the trigger on a 60 GB PS3 today through some various wheeling and dealing, and go ahead and go format neutral. I can't resist all the Die Hard movies in HD.
 
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widgetraf

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The Bestbuy Heroes+2 Free HD-DVDs has me sold. 8 Free movies + Heroes S1 for $180, daaym.

Also:
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karasu

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shit! I just dictehd my component cable and hooked my ps3 up through HDMI. The difference is immense. I was told that there would be no noticeable changes. 0_o
 
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VanMardigan

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What would you say were the differences? What type of tv do you have? What resolution?

I have a 1080p DLP and it deinterlaces so well that there is almost no difference between the two, to the point where I could not tell 1080p and 1080i apart.
 
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OokieSpookie

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VanMardigan said:
What would you say were the differences? What type of tv do you have? What resolution?

I have a 1080p DLP and it deinterlaces so well that there is almost no difference between the two, to the point where I could not tell 1080p and 1080i apart.
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Also it could heavily go by the quality of the component cables.
HDMI doesn't matter, Component it makes a huge difference.
 
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karasu

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VanMardigan said:
What would you say were the differences? What type of tv do you have? What resolution?

I have a 1080p DLP and it deinterlaces so well that there is almost no difference between the two, to the point where I could not tell 1080p and 1080i apart.
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I have a Samsung HLP5085W, and the ps3 is set to 720p.

The colors are much more vibrant than they were before and my image is cleaner. Also, when I was using component I noticed that some of the text in my wallpaper was cut off. But now that I've switched to HDMI that's no longer a problem. I was using the Mad Catz universal component cable btw.
 
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OokieSpookie

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karasu said:
I have a Samsung HLP5085W, and the ps3 is set to 720p.

The colors are much more vibrant than they were before and my image is cleaner. Also, when I was using component I noticed that some of the text in my wallpaper was cut off. But now that I've switched to HDMI that's no longer a problem. I was using the Mad Catz universal component cable btw.
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The component cable is why then.
With component you can really tell the difference between a 60-80 or higher component cable and a lower grade one.
Either way gratz on the new outlook :D
 
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StoOgE

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OokieSpookie said:
I wonder how hard it would be to find someone to buy a 360 hd-dvd add on unopened...
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I sold a used one for 150 bucks not long ago.

Of course, if you dont open it, you dont get KK.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
karasu said:
I have a Samsung HLP5085W, and the ps3 is set to 720p.

The colors are much more vibrant than they were before and my image is cleaner. Also, when I was using component I noticed that some of the text in my wallpaper was cut off. But now that I've switched to HDMI that's no longer a problem. I was using the Mad Catz universal component cable btw.
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some TV's use different procesing techniques on different inputs. Ideally with good cables, you wont notice much of a difference. Sounds like you had some pretty iffy cables, and your TV may do more fancy processing (which is actually bad for a good image) on component and leave the image alone for HDMI. Alot of TV's assume HDMI or VGA = computer = dont monkey with the signal.

The wallpaper being cut off is easily explainable. Overscan. Most good TV's overscan 2-3% (make the image larger so it runs off of the edges of the screen). Some TV's do it worse than that (Ive heard some really iffy brands hitting 8% or higher). Its done for different reasons, but actually hurts your image quality and cuts off part of the image. More than likely your TV expects the HDMI input to be used for computers so the TV doesnt do overscan at all and gives you a 1:1 image (i.e. pixel to pixel) so you get 100% of the image. This will also give you slightly improved PQ.

For a fun experament, take a picture in photoshop. Then, cut 5% of the image off on all 4 sides.. then take that new leftoverportion and increase its size till it takes up the full size of the original image. Its going to add aliasing, its going to add blurryness, its going to slightly distort the image and its going to make small color banding problems look pronounced.

Overscan is the devil and should have died long ago. The only downside is some TV shows (mostly older letterboxed shows) will have a small black box around them without overscan. This is a result of the picture not taking up the full image size. The creators of the show new that the TVs would all overscan the image, so they didnt put anything on the edges of the picture. Also, ESPN will look wierd because the "bug" will apear to be in the middle of the screen not the top. Oh well. :lol

This is the test image that would be used to determine how bad your overscan problem is. It sounds like via HDMI you probably have zero overscan.

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My POS TV in the living room has 4% overscan on the left and right side of the image as well as the bottom. For extra fun, the top has 5% overscan. So not only is it blowing the image up, its distorting it slightly to boot! Hooray.
 
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Bebpo

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Went to Best Buy and grabbed Shining. Was tempted to grab 2001 because of the PQ praises and the HAL stuff (though I find a lot of 2001 to be really boring personally ;_;) but in good news for the formats they were completely sold out of 2001 in both formats. Had a few Shining left in each and a ton of Clockwork Orange/FMJ.

I actually grabbed Clockwork Orange as well because I was sorta figuring on buying 2 Kubrick movies when I went in and I wouldn't mind seeing CO again in HD. I like CO, but it's a bit too disturbing/dark for me.
 
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Bebpo said:
Went to Best Buy and grabbed Shining. Was tempted to grab 2001 because of the PQ praises and the HAL stuff (though I find a lot of 2001 to be really boring personally ;_;) but in good news for the formats they were completely sold out of 2001 in both formats. Had a few Shining left in each and a ton of Clockwork Orange/FMJ.

I actually grabbed Clockwork Orange as well because I was sorta figuring on buying 2 Kubrick movies when I went in and I wouldn't mind seeing CO again in HD. I like CO, but it's a bit too disturbing/dark for me.
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Bebpo does your store have Eyes Wide Shut, and any chance of you picking up a copy and sending it to me? (Canada doesn't get it until November 6th, although I'm still looking for Troy as well...) :D
 
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OokieSpookie

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lupin23rd said:
Bebpo does your store have Eyes Wide Shut, and any chance of you picking up a copy and sending it to me? (Canada doesn't get it until November 6th, although I'm still looking for Troy as well...) :D
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Another movie that has been oddly hard to find is From Hell (BR)
 
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Bebpo

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You know, with regards to the whole digital argument, one of the reasons I buy cds is for the nice packaging with thick booklets. When I open HD discs that don't even have a pamphlet and feel like a generic empty case with a disc in it...I do start caring less about owning the physical copy.

They need to work on HD packaging. The few dvds I do buy (mainly from Japan) have thick booklets and are great quality packages.

lupin23rd said:
Bebpo does your store have Eyes Wide Shut, and any chance of you picking up a copy and sending it to me? (Canada doesn't get it until November 6th, although I'm still looking for Troy as well...) :D
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They had them, but I dunno, you really think the cost of $24.99+tax+shipping+week wait for item to arrive is cheaper/faster than ordering online?
 
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