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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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AgentOtaku

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Watched Casino Royale last night and watched Reign of Fire today...gonna watch L4yer Cake tonight...

Casino Royale just looked incredible and is most certainly another reference title.
Reign of Fire looked fantastic as well. The film has a fantastic dystopic texture/look and its blu ray release really did it justice. Its still a great film IMO :)
 
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djkimothy

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Yeesh. I haven't seen Casino Royale at all (even in the theatres)! I have it in my room but have to wait till movie night with friends! Argh. This is killing me!
 
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Raistlin

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SRG01 said:
Oh.

Sorry for further derailment, but is DVI-to-HDMI noticeably better than DVI-to-VGA?
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DVI actually has 3 types:

DVI-D (digital only) - This is effectively the same as HDMI (original spec) sans audio, using a different pin configuration

DVI-A (analog only) - This is effectively the same as VGA, using a different pin configuration

DVI-I (digital & analog) - This supports both of the above
 
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MickeyKnox

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SRG01 said:
At the absolute limit, I can probably spend a maximum of $2000 CAD on a set. I really don't want to hit that mark, but it should be enough to buy a decent one, no?

But yeah, it's probably going to be in a small-to-medium room setup.
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http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=3W100T
Thank me later.
It's a 37" set, 1080p but doesn't have an internal tuner.
I got mine a little over a week ago and i love it to death.
The absolute best bang for the buck set available today.
Check out this huge thread filled with satisfied users for any research you may need on the set.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1088497
 
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BlueTsunami

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MickeyKnox said:
http://www.pcnation.com/web/details.asp?item=3W100T
Thank me later.
It's a 37" set, 1080p but doesn't have an internal tuner.
I got mine a little over a week ago and i love it to death.
The absolute best bang for the buck set available today.
Check out this huge thread filled with satisfied users for any research you may need on the set.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1088497
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Oh god, that LCD made me moist. I'm seriously considering use it as some sort of psuedo secondary screen of a Dual Screen setup :lol. The lack of a TV Tuner is a bummer since I don't have a cable top box but external TV Tuners go for cheap nowadays. Awesome!

Westinghouse rocks
 
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Raistlin

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Mrbob said:
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Link?
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DarkJediKnight said:
New numbers up for last week's sales. Keep in mind there were no releases in the week of Mar 06.

Blu-ray: 81.5%. HD DVD: 18.5% = 4.4:1 ratio

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This is based on the Neilson Videoscan report. The people at AVS are speculating that Videoscan may not have taken the Amazon 50% sale into account.


In related news. HD DVD is about to get yanked from retail
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kiryogi

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Goddamn retailers! My frustration for Blu-ray grows. First it was departed. I wasn't too annoyed but nonetheless I wasted time/gas trying to find it. Now with Casiino Royale, I've been extremely hyped for it and here im empty handed because no one has it in stock. GODDAMNIT.
 
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Bebpo

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kiryogi said:
Goddamn retailers! My frustration for Blu-ray grows. First it was departed. I wasn't too annoyed but nonetheless I wasted time/gas trying to find it. Now with Casiino Royale, I've been extremely hyped for it and here im empty handed because no one has it in stock. GODDAMNIT.
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Amazon.com is your friend.
 
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lupin23rd

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SleazyC said:
At smaller sizes 720p versus 1080p really is damn hard to differentiate between unless you are a videophile. I would say if you have $2000CAD max to get a nice 720p set that will last you a couple years and then go for the 1080p or get a mid level 720p and a decent 5.1 surround sound setup.
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Is there still an issue with viewing Blu Ray movies on a PS3 in 720p or am I out to lunch on this one?

Thinking I don't really need a 1080p TV but if the above is true I may just hold out.

I can deal with a 32" or 37" TV (meaning no 1080p) but I don't want to watch my new HD movies in 480p or 1080i if the latter means lower quality on some of the action movies I will be watching (eg. Crank).

Also regarding BB and FS in Canada, think you could talk them down on a PS3 as well? :D
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Laguna X

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As far as I know, the problems concerning being able to watch Blu ray movie on the PS3 in 720p still exists. So if it's within your budget, I would suggest on getting a 1080p set.
 
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Raistlin

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Laguna X said:
As far as I know, the problems concerning being able to watch Blu ray movie on the PS3 in 720p still exists. So if it's within your budget, I would suggest on getting a 1080p set.
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Or verifying that the 720p TV you're interested in handles 1080i deinterlacing well (or accepts 1080p, which some now do).
 
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Zoe

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kiryogi said:
Goddamn retailers! My frustration for Blu-ray grows. First it was departed. I wasn't too annoyed but nonetheless I wasted time/gas trying to find it. Now with Casiino Royale, I've been extremely hyped for it and here im empty handed because no one has it in stock. GODDAMNIT.
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It seems like I can find it everywhere BUT Best Buy. And that's the place I'd want to buy it from the most because of RZ...
 
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djkimothy

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Onix said:
Or verifying that the 720p TV you're interested in handles 1080i deinterlacing well (or accepts 1080p, which some now do).
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I'm surprised that's even an issue. When I was in the market, all TVs i researched had 720p/1080i capabilities. Am I missing something? Cause it seems unlikely that you'll get a TV that only does 720p.
 
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Raistlin

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djkimothy said:
I'm surprised that's even an issue. When I was in the market, all TVs i researched had 720p/1080i capabilities. Am I missing something? Cause it seems unlikely that you'll get a TV that only does 720p.
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Notice I said, "handles 1080i deinterlacing well"
 
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djkimothy

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Onix said:
Notice I said, "handles 1080i deinterlacing well"
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LOL, how can you tell? I don't have anything at the same calibre of a Bravia or Aquos and I find my blu-ray films to be nice and crisp. I'm guessing you'd have to have a cheap tv to have crappy deinterlacers...

I expect those numbers to level off eventually after the Casino effect has run its course. It is a heavily marketed movie right now, and those people who are already high def am pretty sure are tipping the results heavily.
 
mckmas8808

mckmas8808

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Zoe said:
But why would the sale have had an effect on HD-DVD?
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As you can see all next-gen movie sales were down last week. Blu-ray went from 49,000 to 24,000.

HD-DVD went from 25,000 to 5,000. Just a really bad sign for them that's all.
 
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AgentOtaku

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For those who were curious about L4yer Cake...

Picture fidelity (word of the year...) is overall solid. Few criticisms it being a tad bit too soft for my liking (director's choice to be sure), but was still very much fine. I do love the look of the film alot though. Colors are vibrant and darker scenes are handled just as well. The print itself appeared flawless.
If you don't own it on Standard Def (which I do, so I only netflixed it), be sure to pick it up on Blu-ray. Its a great improvement :)
 
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Raistlin

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mckmas8808 said:
As you can see all next-gen movie sales were down last week. Blu-ray went from 49,000 to 24,000.

HD-DVD went from 25,000 to 5,000. Just a really bad sign for them that's all.
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You seem to have missed where it was mentioned that the amazon sales numbers where not part of this list ...
 
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Zaptruder

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Zoe said:
But why would the sale have had an effect on HD-DVD?
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Same reason that sales appear to be missing from BD? Because they've stolen customers from other sites and locations?

If the other thread about GAFfers supporting next gen HD formats is any indication of the marketplace; a large proportion of HD-DVD owners are also BD owners... so maybe that's where that money went... for the week.
 
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Doctor_No

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I am appreciating that a lot of the Colombia releases have multi-language subtitles on them and not just English, French, and Spanish: they also include Korean, Thai, Portuguese, Chinese, etc.

I've noticed Casino Royale, Monster House, Black Hawk Down, Covenant, Fifth Element, Stealth, 50 First Dates, Tears of the Sun, and House of Flying Daggers have them. But Open Season is a Columbia release that doesn't with it.
 
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el Diablo

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AgentOtaku said:
For those who were curious about L4yer Cake...

Picture fidelity (word of the year...) is overall solid. Few criticisms it being a tad bit too soft for my liking (director's choice to be sure), but was still very much fine. I do love the look of the film alot though. Colors are vibrant and darker scenes are handled just as well. The print itself appeared flawless.
If you don't own it on Standard Def (which I do, so I only netflixed it), be sure to pick it up on Blu-ray. Its a great improvement :)
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I agree about the softness. Haven't seen it all the way through yet but when i was thumbing through one of my favorite scenes (the resteraunt scene) i noticed it was really soft, it looked like a DVD to me. Also thought the colors looked weird in a few scenes, really white washed out (not sure if that's the right way to describe it). Of course that might just be the dull overcast scenery of England though lol.

I need to watch it all the way through before i pass judgement but from what i've thumbed through so far i'm not expecting much, luckily though i really enjoyed the movie so better to own the BD than DVD heh.

If people do insist on buying it, i know Fry's was running a newspaper ad on Thurs. that had LC for $17.99.
 
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HocusPocus

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mckmas8808 said:
As you can see all next-gen movie sales were down last week. Blu-ray went from 49,000 to 24,000.

HD-DVD went from 25,000 to 5,000. Just a really bad sign for them that's all.
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Dang. It's like the DVD sales at about 2 Wal Marts ahah.
 
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Petrarca

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Article from PCMagazine

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2104850,00.asp

Blu-ray Clearly Leading in Next-Gen DVD Sales
03.16.07


"Within three years it will just be Blu-ray." – Frank Simonis, the Blu-ray Disc Association's European chairman, at the CeBIT trade show.

According to the latest sales numbers from Nielsen VideoScan, the Blu-ray format appears to be gaining momentum.

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The format war between Blu-ray and HD DVD has been relatively short, ugly, and brutal. And, given all of the interest in which format will control the multi-billion dollar market for next-generation DVD sales, each format's supporters are doing all they can to ensure their camp is the chosen one.

For many, a key move in the struggle was the inclusion of a gift certificate inside boxes of Sony PlayStation3 consoles, which began selling late last year. In an early assessment of the Blu-ray/HD-DVD race I wrote in early February, I noted that the certificate could have had an unbalancing effect on the sales of Blu-ray media. According to experts cited by USA Today, gift certificates sold during the holiday season should have been cashed in in January or early February.

It's now March, and Blu-ray appears to be holding its edge -- proving either that the assumption was incorrect, or that Blu-ray's apparent momentum didn't need the crutch. Moreover, the total of Blu-ray discs sold now outweighs the number of HD DVD discs sold, giving both the short-term and long-term edge to Sony's format....

Since inception, Blu-ray movie sales represent 52.2 percent of the total sold, versus 48.8 percent for HD DVD. This is a reversal from February, when HD DVD held the advantage.

As I've said before, Nielsen's analysis does have some holes. It excludes Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, and Sam's Club. However, the firm's findings represent the most comprehensive survey that I'm aware of, or at least that has been publicly released. (Note: Nielsen doesn't provide analysis, forcing me to try and do my own.)

I'm not sure that recent developments will have a great effect. The HD DVD association formed a European working group this week to promote the standard, and executives reportedly claimed that the technology holds a roughly 2:1 lead in sales of PC hardware, however slight that may be. Alpine reportedly is interested in manufacturing an HD DVD player for the car, to use the disc as a digital audio repository....
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Frankfurter

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Petrarca said:
Article from PCMagazine

Since inception, Blu-ray movie sales represent 52.2 percent of the total sold, versus 48.8 percent for HD DVD. This is a reversal from February, when HD DVD held the advantage.
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:lol
 
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djkimothy

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Frankfurter said:
52.2% + 48.8% = 101% unless I missed sth.
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There is usually a margin of error when presenting these kinds of numbers. The article just fails to mention the error. Usually it's around 1.5% to maybe 3%
 
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Frankfurter

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djkimothy said:
There is usually a margin of error when presenting these kinds of numbers. The article just fails to mention the error. Usually it's around 1.5% to maybe 3%
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Errr no. They simply made a mistake, 52.2% for Blu Ray is correct, 48.8% for HD DVD isn't (47.8% is). Just look at that excel sheet Sonycowboy posted for the March 4 2007 week.
 
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djkimothy

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Frankfurter said:
Errr no. They simply made a mistake, 52.2% for Blu Ray is correct, 48.8% for HD DVD isn't (47.8% is). Just look at that excel sheet Sonycowboy posted for the March 4 2007 week.
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Well then. What's the big deal?

And they should report the error. There's no such thing as data plots without errors. My supervisor would laugh in my face if i ever submitted crap like that. :/
 
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Frankfurter

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djkimothy said:
Well then. What's the big deal?

And they should report the error. There's no such thing as data plots without errors. My supervisor would laugh in my face if i ever submitted crap like that. :/
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There is no big deal. That's why I simply laughed instead of claiming doom and gloom for pcmag, Blu Ray, HD DVD or Bush ;)
 
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