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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.
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Beer Monkey
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Early this year we had lots of people who predicted that this 'war' could be over in a matter of months. The truth is, it wasn't a wholly unreasonable belief.
At this point, the better assumption is that it is going to drag on for years. The best thing to do is go multiformat and relax and enjoy it. I tried to stick it out with BD, but I'll be stopping by a couple of big Wal-Marts on the way home to see if they are carrying the $99 player. Looks like I may have to get up early tomorrow.
At this point, the better assumption is that it is going to drag on for years. The best thing to do is go multiformat and relax and enjoy it. I tried to stick it out with BD, but I'll be stopping by a couple of big Wal-Marts on the way home to see if they are carrying the $99 player. Looks like I may have to get up early tomorrow.
Ignatz Mouse
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Kolgar said:
Kolgar's butt-hurt status confirmed.
Kung Fu Jedi
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I'm assuming the player that Wal-mart will have on sale tomorrow will also upscale. That's pretty much standard these days in the next gen players?
Hell, at that price, it's cheaper or in the same price range as most upscaling players.
Hell, at that price, it's cheaper or in the same price range as most upscaling players.
Beer Monkey
Member
It's a good but not great upscaling player. It does however do 480i over HDMI, which is very useful to many and unfortunately still uncommon.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Agreed that the best assumption is to think it might drag on for years, but I disagree that going dual-format is the solution. Again, I don't want a pile of discs that I need to re-buy in 5 years. I'd rather wait out Universal and Paramount, given the current status. If WB goes HD-DVD then I'll probably change my mind.
I'm not as certain as oth Blu folks that the Wal*Mart player won't have a big impact, although I'm still pretty skeptical. Every price-drop on Toshiba hardware has come with predictions of the tide turning, and it's stayed rock-solid. I also think the the accessibility is offset somewhat by the appearance of it being a fire sale-- JCBossman's comments about it being a $500 item a year ago do not help that fact, being Wal*Mart only also does not help that fact. Still, we'll see. I have no assuredness.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Snah is less annoying, if only because he doesn't imitate trailer trash talking about videogame consoles.
Beer Monkey
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Ignatz Mouse said:
Oh, there will be great multiformat players for no more than a few bucks more than single-format players. Once upon a time we had DVD players that played only Dolby and no DTS. We had burners that could do DVD-R but not DVD+R. In the long run the only meaningful expense to add HD-DVD to a BD player is a few bucks in licensing fee. There won't be any need to re-buy any movies.
I'm not going to be anybody's pawn in a format war. Time to watch whatever fucking high-def movie I feel like.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Ignatz Mouse said:
No, he's less annoying to you because he's on the Blu side. Stop being a hypocrite. Snah and jc both crapped up the thread. Also, Kolgar putting chemo on ignore is just a smart move, one I had to make myself. Again, I don't think you see that because he's blu team. But seriously, I can't imagine that you can't spot the bad blu posters along with the terrible red ones.
And lol at the spin on the $99 Walmart player. The funniest spin is that there isn't a super expensive HD DVD player........and that's somehow a BAD thing??? :lol
Onkyo and Samsung will provide the overpriced, marketing buzz word-feature packed HD DVD players you guys are obviously pining for. All two of you. The Samsung streets in December.
If you use AVS as a barometer for what constitutes a good device, I can understand why you'd poo poo just about everything that comes out aside from the highest of the high end. But other than Onix, who tries his darndest to FUD up this news and every HD DVD player available, I know that Toshiba has us covered. And it's a good thing that folks like onix represent such a minute part of the market.
And finally, anyone who thinks that they PERSONALLY can settle this format war because they didn't buy a $99 HD A2 with the five free movies is absurdly naive.
QFT!! I'm glad that the average enthusiast has already come to that conclusion and doesn't spend so much effort rationalizing why their current laughable allegiance prevents them from enjoying a chunk of available HD disc media. If there was ever evidence of console war mentality in this thread, the responses to the $99 HD DVD player are most definitely it.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
I saw the comparison shots on hi def digest forums and I preferred the BD version's color, plus the detail blew away the dvd version.
The Main Event
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Onix should just wait for the reviews and get either the Onkyo or Integra if he's so concerned about the G3 1080p capabilities.
Free HD DVD players for New Yorkers:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/2311736.html
Free HD DVD players for New Yorkers:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/2311736.html
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Ignatz Mouse said:
The only ones throwing around the term fire sale is and perceiving the lower prices as such are those in the blu ray camp. J6P sees value and a good deal.
Ignatz I know you said it half jokingly but there is only one regular in here who more often than not comes across as bitter and butt hurt and its most definitely not kolgar
Beer Monkey
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Geez, they are even advertising the Wal-Mart sale on TV now and mentioning the HD-DVD player.
Ignatz Mouse
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Van, if I would be calling out anybody on the Blu side, it'd be Ookie, not Chemo. I did a little while ago, and lately y'all HD-DVD crusaders have beaten me to it.
Butt-hurt, Days? You're the one with the anti-Sony vendetta. I wanna watch movies in one format. Sorry that Sony fans in the gaming forum piss you off so much. I wish you'd keep it there.
Butt-hurt, Days? You're the one with the anti-Sony vendetta. I wanna watch movies in one format. Sorry that Sony fans in the gaming forum piss you off so much. I wish you'd keep it there.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
meh, I think ookie is fine, and miles above the "three C's" posters.
As for the HD A2, I've been saying it's a very good player for a long time now. Like I said, for the vast majority of folks here, it's more than enough. And to the folks that it isn't good enough for, they were never the target and shouldn't be expecting a player that cheap.
No Wal-Marts here, but if I can get my sister in PA to buy one for me this friday, I'll take pictures of movies running on the HD A2 and on my 57" 1080p DLP set. It does great deinterlacing, so it should look fantastic.
edit: And I think days like these was taking a shot at me, not you. Can't be sure, cause he was vague, but I doubt he was talking about you being butt hurt.
As for the HD A2, I've been saying it's a very good player for a long time now. Like I said, for the vast majority of folks here, it's more than enough. And to the folks that it isn't good enough for, they were never the target and shouldn't be expecting a player that cheap.
No Wal-Marts here, but if I can get my sister in PA to buy one for me this friday, I'll take pictures of movies running on the HD A2 and on my 57" 1080p DLP set. It does great deinterlacing, so it should look fantastic.
edit: And I think days like these was taking a shot at me, not you. Can't be sure, cause he was vague, but I doubt he was talking about you being butt hurt.
Beer Monkey
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HD-A2 should look great on my Pio plasma, which does a great job of deinterlacing and judder reduction for film-based sources (plays back in real 24fps/72hz).
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Ignatz Mouse said:
lol i wasnt refering to you. I dont have an anti sony vendetta that post of mine that you have archived and cherish so dearly I might add was against ps 3 fanboys not sony or the ps3 in and of themselves.
Beer Monkey
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Some/most WM may be holding stock in the back to guarantee availability for tomorrow.
Days like these...
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VanMardigan said:
lol again! we're on the same side man I was not referring to you.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
jjasper said:
Calm before the storm?
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Days like these... said:
Whatever. You generally seem like you have an axe to grind or just want to prod people, so I found your comment odd.
Edit: Schizo, that's brilliant if it works. Cool.
VanMardigan
has calmed down a bit.
Days like these... said:
Tons of friendly fire already in this thread.
I've seen folks take shots at me where I thought we were cool. Anyway, I'm calling my sister now. Do you guys seriously think that she'll have to line up? It's like mid Pennsylvania, not a huge city or anything, do you think word would get out there plus enough interest in an HD DVD player?
Days like these...
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
That's exactly what they're doing.
Ignatz Mouse
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I guess things have been nasty when Days makes that comment and two of us assume it was about us!
I'm sure Days is referring to me, because many people in this thread seem to regard challenging response as "bitter and butt-hurt." I mean, what would I even possibly have to be bitter and butt-hurt about anyway? The format I chose as the most likely to succeed and provide a one-format future is winning by a significant margin, and has been all year.
Yeah, I'm a "bad Blu poster," I guess. Even though I'm not a "Blu poster," but rather a "one-format poster." Not that you can read this, but I'd really like to know precisely what is wrong with my posting in this thread.VanMardigan said:
Grimm Fandango
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Is the $100 HD-DVD player a decent model or a piece of crap?
TerryLee81 said:
Understood. I was just implying that one shouldn't make assumptions on all products by a company, based on one specific year's top-of-the-line product.
Denon generally makes quality stuff. However, its not like they've had the 'best' (mass produced) DVD player every year.
JCBossman said:Well they CLAIM their DVD designs, produce PQ Exceeding BOTH HD Formats
Oh god
lolz
I don't see anything wrong with the things you post Chemo. I tend to actually enjoy your posts.Chemo said:
I'm not sure how strong your argument for not being a "blu poster" is though, especially when you admit that Blu Ray was " The format [you] chose..." in the same post.
Then again, being a Blu Ray supporter is not like the scarlett letter or anything.
It's the player that I have, and I have nothing but good things to say. Reviews have almost be universally positive as well. For $100 it is a steal.Grimm Fandango said:
Chemo said:
Perhaps just the impression that you are so challenging, and have been so focused on pac-man/marketshare issues to the exclusion of movie/disc discussions, whereas other posters, even partisans, are more mixed. This is just an impression - there is no need to dig through your post history to demonstrate that no, really, 47.9% of your posts have not been pac-man oriented.
Nah, I don't need to dig... because you're absolutely correct. Most of my posts ARE Pac-Man oriented. This is the Blu-ray/HD DVD format war thread, after all.gkrykewy said:
I am above all interested in a genuine conclusion and an adoption of one format so everyone can breathe a big sigh of relief and go full tilt at this high def media shit.- Status