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Hi-Def Media Lovefest: The war is over and we can all go home.

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Naked Snake

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I got Planet Earth from DD during the last discount, but I think they jacked up the price a bit later in the sale, I remember at first it was 50 bucks after the discount but when I placed my order (during the last days of the sale) it came out about $55. Still a great deal.
 
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Just read the bourne review. Glad that its got the PIP, online stuff, game and all that.. and all the features are in HD, except for the deleted scenes. Not a huge deal, but they were so close to an all HD disc. :(
 
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.hacked

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"Samsung BD-P1400 1080p Blu-Ray Disc Player"
Electronics; $269.98


"Toshiba HD-A30 1080p HD DVD Player"
Electronics; $239.98


Amazon prices for today, grab both of them for my anime room. $509.96 for 2 1080p HD players :D
 
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shantyman

WHO DEY!?
What is Bill Hunt talking about?

Okay... we've heard back from Warner Home Video. That Best Buy version of Blade Runner: The Final Cut isn't an exclusive after all. Turns out it's the exact same Five-Disc Ultimate Edition on DVD that's available everywhere else in the briefcase... and yes, it does include the briefcase. Best Buy basically just posted the artwork for the Digipack that's in the case, rather than the briefcase itself. Go figure. So there's no exclusive, and the 5-disc DVD version (that includes the workprint) isn't available in Region 1 without the briefcase. We've revised our in-depth review of the set accordingly.
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VanMardigan

has calmed down a bit.
I'm not buying any more WB movies, on either format, until they either announce something at CES, or I know they'll be format neutral for a while longer.

That's why I balked at the Amazon Blu Ray offer they had. I'm only buying the Uni titles on this latest one. Generally, I'm not the one to care, but IF there's an imminent announcement, I'd like to hear what it is first.
 
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Naked Snake

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.hacked said:
"Samsung BD-P1400 1080p Blu-Ray Disc Player"
Electronics; $269.98


"Toshiba HD-A30 1080p HD DVD Player"
Electronics; $239.98


Amazon prices for today, grab both of them for my anime room. $509.96 for 2 1080p HD players :D
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You have an anime room?
 
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.hacked

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Naked Snake said:
You have an anime room?
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Just a bed room that I put a couch, my older 1080p Samsung LCD and all my anime in.

was my old bedroom before I took over the master bed/bathroom.


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needs work but it will be a fun room to fix up after the new year (along with the rest of the house).
 
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maynerd

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.hacked said:
Just a bed room that I put a couch, my older 1080p Samsung LCD and all my anime in.

was my old bedroom before I took over the master bed/bathroom.

animeroom01.jpg


needs work but it will be a fun room to fix up after the new year (along with the rest of the house).
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That mirror above the tv would be distracting to me.
 
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Argyle

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VanMardigan said:
I'm not buying any more WB movies, on either format, until they either announce something at CES, or I know they'll be format neutral for a while longer.

That's why I balked at the Amazon Blu Ray offer they had. I'm only buying the Uni titles on this latest one. Generally, I'm not the one to care, but IF there's an imminent announcement, I'd like to hear what it is first.
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This doesn't make any sense, Van! You're format neutral and should be sending them a message - you should be buying all their movies on Blu so we can end this silly format war once and for all,which is the best thing for every consumer :)
 
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Jeff-DSA

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Argyle said:
This doesn't make any sense, Van! You're format neutral and should be sending them a message - you should be buying all their movies on Blu so we can end this silly format war once and for all,which is the best thing for every consumer :)
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Funny thing...I buy all my multiformat stuff on HD-DVD to keep this crazy battle going as long as possible. Sure, it's lame having two formats, but look at how cheap the prices are getting on the hardware and all of the crazy BOGO sales we get. The longer this format war lasts, the longer I'll be getting 2 for 1 deals on my movies for both formats.

Being neutral right now rocks, I basically get twice the movie collection I would otherwise thanks to all the nutty sales. Once the war is over, so will the days of BOGO sales.
 
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Raistlin

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Jeff-DSA said:
Funny thing...I buy all my multiformat stuff on HD-DVD to keep this crazy battle going as long as possible. Sure, it's lame having two formats, but look at how cheap the prices are getting on the hardware and all of the crazy BOGO sales we get. The longer this format war lasts, the longer I'll be getting 2 for 1 deals on my movies for both formats.
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Ummm ... you realize that as the 'war' continues, many of the studios will to stay with their current trickle of output.


Its nice that we get BOGO's, but they're kind of pointless when the selection isn't what it could/should be.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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VanMardigan said:
I'm not buying any more WB movies, on either format, until they either announce something at CES, or I know they'll be format neutral for a while longer.

That's why I balked at the Amazon Blu Ray offer they had. I'm only buying the Uni titles on this latest one. Generally, I'm not the one to care, but IF there's an imminent announcement, I'd like to hear what it is first.
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I don't understand your logic. Why would you skip WB titles? Why would you still buy Uni titles? I thought you prided yourself on not having to wait, but what it looks like is you just skipped a Blu-Ray sale but still partook in an HD-DVD one. Weird. Aren't you committed to keeping both formats playing in your home? And if not, why aren't you holding back on all purchases?
 
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VanMardigan

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Ignatz Mouse said:
I don't understand your logic. Why would you skip WB titles? Why would you still buy Uni titles? I thought you prided yourself on not having to wait, but what it looks like is you just skipped a Blu-Ray sale but still partook in an HD-DVD one. Weird. Aren't you committed to keeping both formats playing in your home? And if not, why aren't you holding back on all purchases?
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WB titles I'm skipping because I'd rather buy them on whatever format they go with (unless they remain format neutral). Uni titles I'm buying because there is no indication they're going anywhere soon (unlike WB). I take part in Blu Ray BOGO's, just not the WB one. We're talking catalog titles here, not new movies that I'm missing out on. I don't care for Harry Potter, or I'd have bought those. So it's about building my collection, not getting day and date releases.

You're format neutral and should be sending them a message - you should be buying all their movies on Blu so we can end this silly format war once and for all,which is the best thing for every consumer :)
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Trust me, my decision has NO bearing on this format war. Neither does yours. It's bigger than us. My decision is not about deciding who wins, but about buying Warner titles for the format they choose, if any. If CES doesn't bring anything new, I'll buy WB titles based on whatever format has the features I want.
 
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Riskbreaker23

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i pre-ordered the harry potter blu ray gift from warner home video am i going to get it before this year is over?

ive been reading through this thread and ive heard some bad stuff about their shipping practices
 
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theBishop

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Oni Jazar

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Jeff-DSA said:
Funny thing...I buy all my multiformat stuff on HD-DVD to keep this crazy battle going as long as possible. Sure, it's lame having two formats, but look at how cheap the prices are getting on the hardware and all of the crazy BOGO sales we get. The longer this format war lasts, the longer I'll be getting 2 for 1 deals on my movies for both formats.

Being neutral right now rocks, I basically get twice the movie collection I would otherwise thanks to all the nutty sales. Once the war is over, so will the days of BOGO sales.
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Have you checked out how cool Star Wars looks in HD DVD or Blu-ray? The Godfather? Indiana Jones? Lord of the Rings? Back to the Futre? Jaws? ET? The Lion King? Aliens? How about smaller films that you may love but didn't hit as big at the box office?

There's a reason why a lot of titles aren't there and won't be for a very long time: it's because the HDM audience is too small. And one of the top reasons why people aren't buying HDM is (surprise!) because of the format war. So enjoy your cheap copies of Old School and Wild Hogs. I'd rather have titles that deserve to be in a home movie collection.
 
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birdman

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Oni Jazar said:
Have you checked out how cool Star Wars looks in HD DVD or Blu-ray? The Godfather? Indiana Jones? Lord of the Rings? Back to the Futre? Jaws? ET? The Lion King? Aliens? How about smaller films that you may love but didn't hit as big at the box office?

There's a reason why a lot of titles aren't there and won't be for a very long time: it's because the HDM audience is too small. And one of the top reasons why people aren't buying HDM is (surprise!) because of the format war. So enjoy your cheap copies of Old School and Wild Hogs. I'd rather have titles that deserve to be in a home movie collection.
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Universal's already put out at least one small film on HD-DVD. Mallrats. Too bad I've got a PS3. I love that movie. :(
 
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Oni Jazar

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birdman said:
Universal's already put out at least one small film on HD-DVD. Mallrats. Too bad I've got a PS3. I love that movie. :(
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There are quite a few gems that have been released in HD but everyone is different and until mass adoption sets in you'll never get all the movie titles you really want.
 
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birdman

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Oni Jazar said:
There are quite a few gems that have been released in HD but everyone is different and until mass adoption sets in you'll never get all the movie titles you really want.
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Unfortunately I'm pretty sure we're at least a year away from anything close to that.
 
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ConsumerSquare

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I need a bit of tech advice...

I have gone two Hot Fuzz HD-DVDs now and both crash and give me an error message around halfway through the movie. Has anyone had an issue like this? I wrote the code down but I don't have it handy. Starts with a 4...

Anyone familiar with this?
 
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Jeff-DSA

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Oni Jazar said:
Have you checked out how cool Star Wars looks in HD DVD or Blu-ray? The Godfather? Indiana Jones? Lord of the Rings? Back to the Futre? Jaws? ET? The Lion King? Aliens? How about smaller films that you may love but didn't hit as big at the box office?

There's a reason why a lot of titles aren't there and won't be for a very long time: it's because the HDM audience is too small. And one of the top reasons why people aren't buying HDM is (surprise!) because of the format war. So enjoy your cheap copies of Old School and Wild Hogs. I'd rather have titles that deserve to be in a home movie collection.
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I think that HDTV penetration is just as much to blame as the format war. So many more people can't benefit from the upgrades in visual quality. Sure, the war isn't helping things to expand, but if both formats stay viable, big releases have to start coming out one way or another. DVD was pretty much the same way...how long did it take to get those movies you mentioned on disc?
 
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Alcibiades

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ConsumerSquare said:
I need a bit of tech advice...

I have gone two Hot Fuzz HD-DVDs now and both crash and give me an error message around halfway through the movie. Has anyone had an issue like this? I wrote the code down but I don't have it handy. Starts with a 4...

Anyone familiar with this?
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It's the most common error on HD DVD

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=810932

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never mind, seems like the likely reason for this error is bad disk pressings... someone else was having trouble with Hot Fuzz as well:

I can confirm that this appears to be a disc error and the way to fix it is to simply replace the bad disc.

I sent in my "bad" copy of "Hot Fuzz" combo HD DVD disc to Microsoft for analysis per this thread at Home Theater Forum:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/...d.php?t=262897

My old disc always froze about 58 minutes into the movie with the 408bc504 error code.

The replacement disc that they gave me plays perfectly.

So I recommend that if you get this error forget about washing the disc and just send it back for a replacement.

There are some bad batches of HD DVD discs out there.

I've heard of some people having to go through 2 or 3 replacements until they finally got a disc that plays perfectly.

I have not watched the whole movie yet, but my replacement copy of "Hot Fuzz" played with no problems on the section that was giving me trouble before, as well as random scenes that I watched on the disc.
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you should definitely return it to where you got it or Universal if nothing else (I sent them my Children of Men combo a few months ago just so I could be certain I didn't get a bad disc).

here is info. thedigitalbits.com gave:

Also, while we're talking high-def, Universal Studios Home Entertainment contacted us yesterday afternoon with word that their fixed replacement copies of The Good Shepherd and Children of Men on DVD/HD-DVD Combo format are now available. You can call (800) 626-9497 anytime 24/7 to arrange a swap for your defective copies. For ease and speed of service, Universal would prefer people use the 800 number rather than e-mail to contact them with problems.

I'm sure they would be willing to replace any disc not just Good Shepherd and Children of Men
 
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Oni Jazar

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Jeff-DSA said:
Sure, the war isn't helping things to expand, but if both formats stay viable, big releases have to start coming out one way or another.
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That's just it. The formats aren't viable. None of those titles came out on UMD for instance. Do you realize that the studios are all losing money in HDM? It took a while for those titles to come out on DVD but I guarantee it will take longer for all of them to come out on HDM if it doesn't achieve mass adoption.
 
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Aladuf

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I'm dying here... I picked up seasons 1 and 2 of Weeds on blu-ray the other day only to get deep into season 1 when my PS3 broke and stopped reading discs :(
 
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Sylar

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Just a question for you all..

I'm a HUGE Scanner Darkly fan, so I'll be buying the Blu-Ray. Anyways, I was wondering if I would see any improvement with the video on a non HDTV but PS3 hooked up via component for the time being? I mean, I can wait on the Blu-Ray, but if I can even see just a little bit better, then Im instantly going ot buy it!
 
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kIdMuScLe

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shantyman said:
What is Bill Hunt talking about?
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To get the workprint dvd of blade runner, you have to buy the Briefcase edition. That's the only way to get it here in the U.S. Both Blu and HD version includes the workprint.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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SO does the non-briefcase edition have the director's cut, final cut, and theatrical cut?

I'm very certain that my wife has ordered this for me for the holidays, I hope I don't have to return it. I don't care about the workprint version, unless there's something special about it I don't know.
 
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Oni Jazar

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Ignatz Mouse said:
SO does the non-briefcase edition have the director's cut, final cut, and theatrical cut?

I'm very certain that my wife has ordered this for me for the holidays, I hope I don't have to return it. I don't care about the workprint version, unless there's something special about it I don't know.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I don't need to have everything, just the different cuts of the film.
 
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shantyman

WHO DEY!?
kIdMuScLe said:
To get the workprint dvd of blade runner, you have to buy the Briefcase edition. That's the only way to get it here in the U.S. Both Blu and HD version includes the workprint.
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No, I think he is wrong.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBMWG4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Product description
In celebration of Blade Runner's 25th anniversary, director Ridley Scott has gone back into post production to create the long-awaited definitive new version. Blade Runner: The Final Cut, spectacularly restored and remastered from original elements and scanned at 4K resolution, will contain never-before-seen added/extended scenes, added lines, new and improved special effects, director and filmmaker commentary, an all-new 5.1 Dolby® Digital audio track and more. Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer, Edward James Olmos, Joanna Cassidy, Sean Young, and Daryl Hannah are among some 80 stars, filmmakers and others who participate in the extensive bonus features. Among the bonus material highlights is Dangerous Days, a brand new, three-and-a-half-hour documentary by award-winning DVD producer Charles de Lauzirika, with an extensive look into every aspect of the film: its literary genesis, its challenging production and its controversial legacy. The definitive documentary to accompany the definitive film version.

Disc One
RIDLEY SCOTT'S ALL-NEW "FINAL CUT" VERSION OF THE FILM
Restored and remastered with added & extended scenes, added lines, new and cleaner special effects and all new 5.1 Dolby Digital Audio. Also includes:

Commentary by Ridley Scott
Commentary by executive producer/co-screenwriter Hampton Fancher and co-screenwriter David Peoples; producer Michael Deely and production executive Katherine Haber
Commentary by visual futurist Syd Mead; production designer Lawrence G. Paull, art director David L. Snyder and special photographic effects supervisors Douglas Trumbull, Richard Yuricich and David Dryer
Disc Two
DOCUMENTARY DANGEROUS DAYS: MAKING BLADE RUNNER
A feature-length authoritative documentary revealing all the elements that shaped this hugely influential cinema landmark. Cast, crew, critics and colleagues give a behind-the-scenes, in-depth look at the film -- from its literary roots and inception through casting, production, visuals and special effects to its controversial legacy and place in Hollywood history.

Disc Three
1982 THEATRICAL VERSION
This is the version that introduced U.S. movie-going audiences to a revolutionary film with a new and excitingly provocative vision of the near-future. It contains Deckard/Harrison Ford's character narration and has Deckard and Rachel's (Sean Young) "happy ending" escape scene.

1982 INTERNATIONAL VERSION
Also used on U.S. home video, laserdisc and cable releases up to 1992. This version is not rated, and contains some extended action scenes in contrast to the Theatrical Version.

1992 DIRECTOR'S CUT
The Director's Cut omits Deckard's voiceover narration and removes the "happy ending" finale. It adds the famously-controversial "unicorn" sequence, a vision that Deckard has which suggests that he, too, may be a replicant.

Disc Four
BONUS DISC - "Enhancement Archive": 90 minutes of deleted footage and rare or never-before-seen items in featurettes and galleries that cover the film's amazing history, production teams, special effects, impact on society, promotional trailers, TV spots, and much more.


Featurette "The Electric Dreamer: Remembering Philip K. Dick"
Featurette "Sacrificial Sheep: The Novel vs. The Film"
Philip K. Dick: The Blade Runner Interviews (audio)
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep Cover Gallery (images)
The Art of Blade Runner (image galleries)
Featurette "Signs of the Times: Graphic Design"
Featurette "Fashion Forward: Wardrobe & Styling"
Screen Tests: Rachel & Pris
Featurette "The Light That Burns: Remembering Jordan Cronenweth"
Unit photography gallery
Deleted and alternate scenes
1982 promotional featurettes
Trailers and TV spots
Featurette "Promoting Dystopia: Rendering the Poster Art"
Marketing and merchandise gallery (images)
Featurette "Deck-A-Rep: The True Nature of Rick Deckard"
Featurette "--Nexus Generation: Fans & Filmmakers"
Disc Five
WORKPRINT VERSION
This rare version of the film is considered by some to be the most radically different of all the Blade Runner cuts. It includes an altered opening scene, no Deckard narration until the final scenes, no "unicorn" sequence, no Deckard/Rachel "happy ending," altered lines between Batty (Rutger Hauer) and his creator Tyrell (Joe Turkell), alternate music and much more. Also includes:

Commentary by Paul M. Sammon, author of Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner
Featurette "All Our Variant Futures: From Workprint to Final Cut"
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StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
Ignatz Mouse said:
SO does the non-briefcase edition have the director's cut, final cut, and theatrical cut?

I'm very certain that my wife has ordered this for me for the holidays, I hope I don't have to return it. I don't care about the workprint version, unless there's something special about it I don't know.
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your fine. The workprint is only in the briefcase. Everything else is in both HDDVD and BRD sets w/o the briefcase.
 
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shantyman

WHO DEY!?
Actually, maybe it isn't. The official site makes no meniton of this 5 disc non briefcase version.

I sent an email to Bill Hunt earler today and he replied that you could get the 5 disc version sans briefcase.

All I know is if Amazon does not send me the 5 disc version with or without briefcase I'm complaining.
 
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Christoff Yurievich

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well it wasn't until I got home that I realized that the box set for HP has non-standard cases for the movies. crap. My bone-headed move (I have the "double points if purchased before 11am" thing at Best Buy) is your gain if you want it. It's selling for $109 in store + tax but I'll sell it for $100 and free shipping.

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funny shopping experience: they had the entire HD-DVD section blocked off by the cart they use for putting movies out as well as the Ratatouille standee. They also had the Blu-ray box set in the back for some reason instead of on the sales floor, same with Superbad.

EDIT: never mind, it sold.
 
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maynerd

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Blade Runner

Straight from Warner Bros online site for Bluray
Studio: Warner Bros.
Synopsis:
Visually spectacular, intensely action-packed and powerfully prophetic since its debut, Blade Runner returns in Ridley Scott's definitive Final Cut, including extended scenes and never-before-seen special effects, now seen in sepcatacular hi-definition! In a signature role as 21st- century detective Rick Deckard, Harrison Ford brings his masculine-yet- vulnerable presence to this stylish noir thriller. In a future of high- tech possibility soured by urban and social decay, Deckard hunts for fugitive, muderous replicants - and is drawn to a mystery woman whose secrets may undermine his soul. This spectacular 5-Disc Set features all of the content of the standard definition Ultimate Collector's Edition. All five version of the legendary Sci-Fi film from Director Ridley Scott with all new 5.1 audio - the definitive Final Cut, three additional versions of the film, and the rare Work Print version - in addition to the in-depth feature length documentary "Dangerous Days", and one complete disc of bonus content including over 80-minutes of never- before-seen deleted scenes.

Media Quantity: 5
Packaging Type: Blue BD Case
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